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lefty2

Very classy move by Del Val coach Mark Seidenburg walking out to foul line to congratulate Misericordia's Tony Harding on his 1,000th career point tonight.
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CCHoopster

#3466
Quote from: lefty2 on January 30, 2019, 09:22:14 PM
Very classy move by Del Val coach Mark Seidenburg walking out to foul line to congratulate Misericordia's Tony Harding on his 1,000th career point tonight.

I was about to log in and type the same thing, Lefty. He coached under Serretti at Dickinson and Van Pelt at Messiah- he oozes with class. He's competitive but classy. And can coach having this team 6-2 coming into today. In fact, last year ,he blocked the Mis coach from getting a 3rd technical after coach Chandler was ejected by walking with him off the court. I hope the Aggies players appreciate their coach. Most coaches are to competitive to be classy. It's sad.

Misericordia looked great tonight.. So efficient. Del Val looked very bad. Very bad. The game wasn't really close. Del Vals D was flat and offense they just stood. Mis neve had to move on D. Great road win for the Cougars. This Aggies team is not a playoff looking team with their effort tonight. Mis could be gearing up for a 3/4 seed run like the past two years.

jmcozenlaw

Quote from: CCHoopster on January 30, 2019, 10:53:28 PM
Quote from: lefty2 on January 30, 2019, 09:22:14 PM
Very classy move by Del Val coach Mark Seidenburg walking out to foul line to congratulate Misericordia's Tony Harding on his 1,000th career point tonight.

I was about to log in and type the same thing, Lefty. He coached under Serretti at Dickinson and Van Pelt at Messiah- he oozes with class. He's competitive but classy. And can coach having this team 6-2 coming into today. In fact, last year ,he blocked the Mis coach from getting a 3rd technical after coach Chandler was ejected by walking with him off the court. I hope the Aggies players appreciate their coach. Most coaches are to competitive to be classy. It's sad.

Misericordia looked great tonight.. So efficient. Del Val looked very bad. Very bad. The game wasn't really close. Del Vals D was flat and offense they just stood. Mis neve had to move on D. Great road win for the Cougars. This Aggies team is not a playoff looking team with their effort tonight. Mis could be gearing up for a 3/4 seed run like the past two years.

I hear coach Mark is a great guy. What he's done to this point has been pretty much with smoke and mirrors. Misericordia is loaded with experience. I think Kenny is the best player in the league and a four year starter. Harding ate DelVal up (they have zero interior presence as their '5' is 6'2" Butler) and higher level, second sememster transfer (Iton) is a legit 6'7", as is Rivera. Mis loses Kenny, Harding, Rodway, McCreary and Iton. Rivera is the lone high level impact player returning. I smell Chandler hitting the transfer market hard, as I've already kind of heard.

lefty2

Quote from: jmcozenlaw on February 01, 2019, 07:59:32 PM
Quote from: CCHoopster on January 30, 2019, 10:53:28 PM
Quote from: lefty2 on January 30, 2019, 09:22:14 PM
Very classy move by Del Val coach Mark Seidenburg walking out to foul line to congratulate Misericordia's Tony Harding on his 1,000th career point tonight.

I was about to log in and type the same thing, Lefty. He coached under Serretti at Dickinson and Van Pelt at Messiah- he oozes with class. He's competitive but classy. And can coach having this team 6-2 coming into today. In fact, last year ,he blocked the Mis coach from getting a 3rd technical after coach Chandler was ejected by walking with him off the court. I hope the Aggies players appreciate their coach. Most coaches are to competitive to be classy. It's sad.

Misericordia looked great tonight.. So efficient. Del Val looked very bad. Very bad. The game wasn't really close. Del Vals D was flat and offense they just stood. Mis neve had to move on D. Great road win for the Cougars. This Aggies team is not a playoff looking team with their effort tonight. Mis could be gearing up for a 3/4 seed run like the past two years.

I hear coach Mark is a great guy. What he's done to this point has been pretty much with smoke and mirrors. Misericordia is loaded with experience. I think Kenny is the best player in the league and a four year starter. Harding ate DelVal up (they have zero interior presence as their '5' is 6'2" Butler) and higher level, second sememster transfer (Iton) is a legit 6'7", as is Rivera. Mis loses Kenny, Harding, Rodway, McCreary and Iton. Rivera is the lone high level impact player returning. I smell Chandler hitting the transfer market hard, as I've already kind of heard.
Harding is a junior.  Iton is a transfer, but not second semester.  He has been with the team from the beginning of the season.
The person who says something can't be done shouldn't stand in the way of the one who's doing it.

CCHoopster

Quote from: CCHoopster on January 30, 2019, 02:36:25 PM
Tonight's Games:

DeSales 81 FDU 67
Eastern 74 Kings 67
Misericordia 78 Del Val 72
Wilkes 86 Manhattanville 79

I can't see DeSales and Eastern not finishing 1 and 2. 3rd and 4th see between Del Val Wilkes and Misericordia will come down to the last day of the year.

Today's games

DeSales 78 Wilkes 75
Del Val 81 Eastern 76
Misericordia 88 Manhattanville 75
King's 74 FDU 68

CCHoopster

#3470
Quote from: CCHoopster on February 02, 2019, 02:42:34 PM
Quote from: CCHoopster on January 30, 2019, 02:36:25 PM
Tonight's Games:

DeSales 81 FDU 67
Eastern 74 Kings 67
Misericordia 78 Del Val 72
Wilkes 86 Manhattanville 79

I can't see DeSales and Eastern not finishing 1 and 2. 3rd and 4th see between Del Val Wilkes and Misericordia will come down to the last day of the year.

Today's games

DeSales 78 Wilkes 75
Del Val 81 Eastern 76
Misericordia 88 Manhattanville 75
King's 74 FDU 68

Good thing I haven't quit my day job  ;D My picks have been bad!!

Interesting day in the Freedom. Wilkes with a major win and Manhattanville upsets Misericordia. Del Val did just enough to edge Eastern on an off day for the Eagles.

Gordon Mann- are you here? I think you called the Del Val Eastern game today. Any thoughts on the Freedom?

jmcozenlaw

Quote from: lefty2 on February 01, 2019, 11:24:00 PM
Quote from: jmcozenlaw on February 01, 2019, 07:59:32 PM
Quote from: CCHoopster on January 30, 2019, 10:53:28 PM
Quote from: lefty2 on January 30, 2019, 09:22:14 PM
Very classy move by Del Val coach Mark Seidenburg walking out to foul line to congratulate Misericordia's Tony Harding on his 1,000th career point tonight.

I was about to log in and type the same thing, Lefty. He coached under Serretti at Dickinson and Van Pelt at Messiah- he oozes with class. He's competitive but classy. And can coach having this team 6-2 coming into today. In fact, last year ,he blocked the Mis coach from getting a 3rd technical after coach Chandler was ejected by walking with him off the court. I hope the Aggies players appreciate their coach. Most coaches are to competitive to be classy. It's sad.

Misericordia looked great tonight.. So efficient. Del Val looked very bad. Very bad. The game wasn't really close. Del Vals D was flat and offense they just stood. Mis neve had to move on D. Great road win for the Cougars. This Aggies team is not a playoff looking team with their effort tonight. Mis could be gearing up for a 3/4 seed run like the past two years.

I hear coach Mark is a great guy. What he's done to this point has been pretty much with smoke and mirrors. Misericordia is loaded with experience. I think Kenny is the best player in the league and a four year starter. Harding ate DelVal up (they have zero interior presence as their '5' is 6'2" Butler) and higher level, second sememster transfer (Iton) is a legit 6'7", as is Rivera. Mis loses Kenny, Harding, Rodway, McCreary and Iton. Rivera is the lone high level impact player returning. I smell Chandler hitting the transfer market hard, as I've already kind of heard.
Harding is a junior.  Iton is a transfer, but not second semester.  He has been with the team from the beginning of the season.

You're right. My bad. Harding is a junior. My buddy at Misericordia is very ill informed about his own team as he told me that Iton was a mid-semester transfer from higher level Pace (maybe the higher level Pace pre-Misericordia is wrong as well........maybe Lefty can confirm or shoot down). Oh well. Of the five Miser players who got the bulk of the minutes (between 29-34) against a very average Manhattanville team (the Smith & Cobbs Show), I believe four of the five are seniors (Iton, Kenny, Rodway. McCreary) and a couple have been mulit-year starters.

jmcozenlaw

Quote from: CCHoopster on February 02, 2019, 09:44:55 PM
Quote from: CCHoopster on February 02, 2019, 02:42:34 PM
Quote from: CCHoopster on January 30, 2019, 02:36:25 PM
Tonight's Games:

DeSales 81 FDU 67
Eastern 74 Kings 67
Misericordia 78 Del Val 72
Wilkes 86 Manhattanville 79

I can't see DeSales and Eastern not finishing 1 and 2. 3rd and 4th see between Del Val Wilkes and Misericordia will come down to the last day of the year.

Today's games

DeSales 78 Wilkes 75
Del Val 81 Eastern 76
Misericordia 88 Manhattanville 75
King's 74 FDU 68

Good thing I haven't quit my day job  ;D My picks have been bad!!

Interesting day in the Freedom. Wilkes with a major win and Manhattanville upsets Misericordia. Del Val did just enough to edge Eastern on an off day for the Eagles.

Gordon Mann- are you here? I think you called the Del Val Eastern game today. Any thoughts on the Freedom?

Eastern was the hottest team in the league heading into this game (handing DeSales their only loss up to that point, on DeSales home court) and the Aggies somehow swept the season series from them. DelVal can't beat Miser nor DeSales, but sweeps Eastern, beats Wilkes at Wilkes (who just beat DeSales at Wilkes) and beats Manhattanville (at Manhattanville).........where Miser just lost by 12 yesterday. You never know. I like to look at underclassmen contributions vs. teams loaded up with seniors.

Eastern is an interesting situation. Coach has his Florida pipeline and will take players with only year of eligibility left. They lose their two stud guards (Duncan and Washington) along with Peel and Kastens. They do return Blet, Ruff (stud as a freshman) and Adams. Bowlers is an intriguing situation. I have heard from numerous people that he is at least in his late 20's, is married, has several kids, works full time overnight, goes to school and plays basketball. I have no idea how he does it and whether he bothers to play his senior year. If he does, Bowlers, Blet, Ruff and Adams form an excellent returning four and with Coach, you never know what rabbits he will pull out of his hat, including 6'7" and 6'8" rabbits.

DelVal is interesting as their best two overall players (no debate here, Washington and Robinson) are only sophomores, their best shooter is a junior (Cianculli), their point guard is a junior (Myers) and they have a freshman getting a lot of time (Johnson) and getting better by the game. They have two injury situations to underclassmen (guard Singleton, a real player, and a 6'6" junior, with two years of eligibility remaining, Russell). They only lose two seniors. If Coach Mark can get an impactful transfer from a higher level (think Kacherlis at DeSales, Iton at Miser, Bowlers at Eastern) and a freshmen or two who can play early, they could be in the playoff mix again next year.

Miser loses stud Kenny, Rodway, McCreary and transfers Iton and Mann. They do return Harding (first team All Mac next year and Rivera). I have no doubt Willie has some players on the bench and will bring in a transfer or two along with a solid freshman or three.

Wilkes had five guys who played 34+ minutes yesterday. The sixth and seventh player lodged 8 minutes each. They lose Robinson (four year starter), Evans (four year starter) and Bowen (three year starter). They do return both Mullins and Pecorelli, but both are seniors next year. Izzy needs to reload.

DeSales is DeSales. Great recruiting of incoming freshmen along with the almost annual transfer of a player from a higher level. This year's transfer, Kachelris, got a lot of time last year at Bloomsburg, as a true freshman. I truly don't know Coval how does it. The campus life isn't exactly mini-Penn State. It's like K.C. Keeler and the Rowan football team's from the 90's (that probably went wayyyyyyy over everybody's head here, except if Gordon is peeking in........as I don't see many here who spend time on the football boards). Of the 8 players who saw 15+ minutes yesterday, only 1 is a senior (Connaghan). In addition, a few are only freshmen and sophomores. I see DeSales as the clear, no-doubt-about-it leader heading into next season.

I'm going to leave out King's and FDU just because, as well as Manhattanville for obvious reasons (although I do wonder if Sean Smith is gettable given that the Smith and Cobbs Show loses Cobbs after this year........and before they move to that screwy New York conference).

Stevens is the wildcard. They are big (their two 6'7"'s and their 6'8" are all back next year). 14-8 overall. 7-6 in an average Empire 8. Beat #16 NJCU to start the season. Beat an 11-11 Alvernia team by 9. Only beat FDU by 1. I don't know where to put them, but I'll put them in the mix as a better team than Manhattanville.

2019 - 2020: DeSales by a wide margin. Eastern right behind them. Wilkes/Miser/DelVal in the next tier. Stevens as a wildcard. Something about this looks awful familiar to this year.

Lefty, shoot holes in my theories. ;)

I will also say this. If the playoffs are DeSales, Eastern, DelVal, Miser/Wilkes.........................the DelVal coach should get Coach of the Year given his roster relative to the depth of DeSales and the returning, experienced rosters of Eastern, Miser and Wilkes. Let's see if the coaches see it that way or if they take they lazy way out and give it to the coach with the best overall regular season record.

Saban and Sweeney have the best records every year but are not the best coaches. They'd better win with all of those five star All-Americans. The best coaches do the most with the least.

lefty2

Justin Iton played at Post.... not Pace.

Darren Davy, who is now at FDU and spent a season at Misericordia, attended Pace.
The person who says something can't be done shouldn't stand in the way of the one who's doing it.

CCHoopster

#3474
Quote from: jmcozenlaw on February 03, 2019, 12:05:53 PM
Quote from: CCHoopster on February 02, 2019, 09:44:55 PM
Quote from: CCHoopster on February 02, 2019, 02:42:34 PM
Quote from: CCHoopster on January 30, 2019, 02:36:25 PM
Tonight's Games:

DeSales 81 FDU 67
Eastern 74 Kings 67
Misericordia 78 Del Val 72
Wilkes 86 Manhattanville 79

I can't see DeSales and Eastern not finishing 1 and 2. 3rd and 4th see between Del Val Wilkes and Misericordia will come down to the last day of the year.

Today's games

DeSales 78 Wilkes 75
Del Val 81 Eastern 76
Misericordia 88 Manhattanville 75
King's 74 FDU 68

Good thing I haven't quit my day job  ;D My picks have been bad!!

Interesting day in the Freedom. Wilkes with a major win and Manhattanville upsets Misericordia. Del Val did just enough to edge Eastern on an off day for the Eagles.

Gordon Mann- are you here? I think you called the Del Val Eastern game today. Any thoughts on the Freedom?

Eastern was the hottest team in the league heading into this game (handing DeSales their only loss up to that point, on DeSales home court) and the Aggies somehow swept the season series from them. DelVal can't beat Miser nor DeSales, but sweeps Eastern, beats Wilkes at Wilkes (who just beat DeSales at Wilkes) and beats Manhattanville (at Manhattanville).........where Miser just lost by 12 yesterday. You never know. I like to look at underclassmen contributions vs. teams loaded up with seniors.

Eastern is an interesting situation. Coach has his Florida pipeline and will take players with only year of eligibility left. They lose their two stud guards (Duncan and Washington) along with Peel and Kastens. They do return Blet, Ruff (stud as a freshman) and Adams. Bowlers is an intriguing situation. I have heard from numerous people that he is at least in his late 20's, is married, has several kids, works full time overnight, goes to school and plays basketball. I have no idea how he does it and whether he bothers to play his senior year. If he does, Bowlers, Blet, Ruff and Adams form an excellent returning four and with Coach, you never know what rabbits he will pull out of his hat, including 6'7" and 6'8" rabbits.

DelVal is interesting as their best two overall players (no debate here, Washington and Robinson) are only sophomores, their best shooter is a junior (Cianculli), their point guard is a junior (Myers) and they have a freshman getting a lot of time (Johnson) and getting better by the game. They have two injury situations to underclassmen (guard Singleton, a real player, and a 6'6" junior, with two years of eligibility remaining, Russell). They only lose two seniors. If Coach Mark can get an impactful transfer from a higher level (think Kacherlis at DeSales, Iton at Miser, Bowlers at Eastern) and a freshmen or two who can play early, they could be in the playoff mix again next year.

Miser loses stud Kenny, Rodway, McCreary and transfers Iton and Mann. They do return Harding (first team All Mac next year and Rivera). I have no doubt Willie has some players on the bench and will bring in a transfer or two along with a solid freshman or three.

Wilkes had five guys who played 34+ minutes yesterday. The sixth and seventh player lodged 8 minutes each. They lose Robinson (four year starter), Evans (four year starter) and Bowen (three year starter). They do return both Mullins and Pecorelli, but both are seniors next year. Izzy needs to reload.

DeSales is DeSales. Great recruiting of incoming freshmen along with the almost annual transfer of a player from a higher level. This year's transfer, Kachelris, got a lot of time last year at Bloomsburg, as a true freshman. I truly don't know Coval how does it. The campus life isn't exactly mini-Penn State. It's like K.C. Keeler and the Rowan football team's from the 90's (that probably went wayyyyyyy over everybody's head here, except if Gordon is peeking in........as I don't see many here who spend time on the football boards). Of the 8 players who saw 15+ minutes yesterday, only 1 is a senior (Connaghan). In addition, a few are only freshmen and sophomores. I see DeSales as the clear, no-doubt-about-it leader heading into next season.

I'm going to leave out King's and FDU just because, as well as Manhattanville for obvious reasons (although I do wonder if Sean Smith is gettable given that the Smith and Cobbs Show loses Cobbs after this year........and before they move to that screwy New York conference).

Stevens is the wildcard. They are big (their two 6'7"'s and their 6'8" are all back next year). 14-8 overall. 7-6 in an average Empire 8. Beat #16 NJCU to start the season. Beat an 11-11 Alvernia team by 9. Only beat FDU by 1. I don't know where to put them, but I'll put them in the mix as a better team than Manhattanville.

2019 - 2020: DeSales by a wide margin. Eastern right behind them. Wilkes/Miser/DelVal in the next tier. Stevens as a wildcard. Something about this looks awful familiar to this year.

Lefty, shoot holes in my theories. ;)

I will also say this. If the playoffs are DeSales, Eastern, DelVal, Miser/Wilkes.........................the DelVal coach should get Coach of the Year given his roster relative to the depth of DeSales and the returning, experienced rosters of Eastern, Miser and Wilkes. Let's see if the coaches see it that way or if they take they lazy way out and give it to the coach with the best overall regular season record.

Saban and Sweeney have the best records every year but are not the best coaches. They'd better win with all of those five star All-Americans. The best coaches do the most with the least.

If Del Val finishes top two he better get it. Third, should.. fourth, winner of the league
should get it. Del Val lost two games on buzzer beaters, have been without Singleton for the past 14 games (a starter), Lybrant Robinson for 3 games (lost all three) and Russell will miss the year to constant concussions.  Credit to McNelly too. He lost Pena for the year then Clifton Adams for several games. They still stand at 7-3.

Talk about a big game Wednesday with Wilkes @ Mis.

jmcozenlaw

Quote from: lefty2 on February 03, 2019, 01:22:09 PM
Justin Iton played at Post.... not Pace.

Darren Davy, who is now at FDU and spent a season at Misericordia, attended Pace.

Gotcha Lefty (my Miser "insider" knows jack squat :) So, Iton did do the "transfer down a level". Post is in a solid D-II conference. I am close to the Magee family and attend some Jefferson U games (still have a hard time calling it Jeff U.) They are in the same conference as Post. I wonder what, outside of Chandler's charm brought that about for a one year situation? I guess Iton got his Bachelor's at Post, had one year of eligibility left and is getting an accelerated Master's at Miser while playing hoops?.

I had no idea that Davy did the "transfer down a level" from Pace to Miser, followed by the transfer within the conference from Miser to FDU (and that's before the ex-Miser player became the now FDU coach). The MAC is almost becoming the NJAC with the transfers. OK, not quite. ;)

The all-timer this year was Mitchell, the ex-FDU women's coach (and a real charmer) took FDU's best three players, after recruiting season, with him to St. Peter's..........leaving the FDU women's program a mess this year. I'd love to know FDU Bill's thoughts if he was still around.

But it does look like I nailed 98% of the other factoids. ;)


jmcozenlaw

Quote from: CCHoopster on February 03, 2019, 01:39:23 PM
Quote from: jmcozenlaw on February 03, 2019, 12:05:53 PM
Quote from: CCHoopster on February 02, 2019, 09:44:55 PM
Quote from: CCHoopster on February 02, 2019, 02:42:34 PM
Quote from: CCHoopster on January 30, 2019, 02:36:25 PM
Tonight's Games:

DeSales 81 FDU 67
Eastern 74 Kings 67
Misericordia 78 Del Val 72
Wilkes 86 Manhattanville 79

I can't see DeSales and Eastern not finishing 1 and 2. 3rd and 4th see between Del Val Wilkes and Misericordia will come down to the last day of the year.

Today's games

DeSales 78 Wilkes 75
Del Val 81 Eastern 76
Misericordia 88 Manhattanville 75
King's 74 FDU 68

Good thing I haven't quit my day job  ;D My picks have been bad!!

Interesting day in the Freedom. Wilkes with a major win and Manhattanville upsets Misericordia. Del Val did just enough to edge Eastern on an off day for the Eagles.

Gordon Mann- are you here? I think you called the Del Val Eastern game today. Any thoughts on the Freedom?

Eastern was the hottest team in the league heading into this game (handing DeSales their only loss up to that point, on DeSales home court) and the Aggies somehow swept the season series from them. DelVal can't beat Miser nor DeSales, but sweeps Eastern, beats Wilkes at Wilkes (who just beat DeSales at Wilkes) and beats Manhattanville (at Manhattanville).........where Miser just lost by 12 yesterday. You never know. I like to look at underclassmen contributions vs. teams loaded up with seniors.

Eastern is an interesting situation. Coach has his Florida pipeline and will take players with only year of eligibility left. They lose their two stud guards (Duncan and Washington) along with Peel and Kastens. They do return Blet, Ruff (stud as a freshman) and Adams. Bowlers is an intriguing situation. I have heard from numerous people that he is at least in his late 20's, is married, has several kids, works full time overnight, goes to school and plays basketball. I have no idea how he does it and whether he bothers to play his senior year. If he does, Bowlers, Blet, Ruff and Adams form an excellent returning four and with Coach, you never know what rabbits he will pull out of his hat, including 6'7" and 6'8" rabbits.

DelVal is interesting as their best two overall players (no debate here, Washington and Robinson) are only sophomores, their best shooter is a junior (Cianculli), their point guard is a junior (Myers) and they have a freshman getting a lot of time (Johnson) and getting better by the game. They have two injury situations to underclassmen (guard Singleton, a real player, and a 6'6" junior, with two years of eligibility remaining, Russell). They only lose two seniors. If Coach Mark can get an impactful transfer from a higher level (think Kacherlis at DeSales, Iton at Miser, Bowlers at Eastern) and a freshmen or two who can play early, they could be in the playoff mix again next year.

Miser loses stud Kenny, Rodway, McCreary and transfers Iton and Mann. They do return Harding (first team All Mac next year and Rivera). I have no doubt Willie has some players on the bench and will bring in a transfer or two along with a solid freshman or three.

Wilkes had five guys who played 34+ minutes yesterday. The sixth and seventh player lodged 8 minutes each. They lose Robinson (four year starter), Evans (four year starter) and Bowen (three year starter). They do return both Mullins and Pecorelli, but both are seniors next year. Izzy needs to reload.

DeSales is DeSales. Great recruiting of incoming freshmen along with the almost annual transfer of a player from a higher level. This year's transfer, Kachelris, got a lot of time last year at Bloomsburg, as a true freshman. I truly don't know Coval how does it. The campus life isn't exactly mini-Penn State. It's like K.C. Keeler and the Rowan football team's from the 90's (that probably went wayyyyyyy over everybody's head here, except if Gordon is peeking in........as I don't see many here who spend time on the football boards). Of the 8 players who saw 15+ minutes yesterday, only 1 is a senior (Connaghan). In addition, a few are only freshmen and sophomores. I see DeSales as the clear, no-doubt-about-it leader heading into next season.

I'm going to leave out King's and FDU just because, as well as Manhattanville for obvious reasons (although I do wonder if Sean Smith is gettable given that the Smith and Cobbs Show loses Cobbs after this year........and before they move to that screwy New York conference).

Stevens is the wildcard. They are big (their two 6'7"'s and their 6'8" are all back next year). 14-8 overall. 7-6 in an average Empire 8. Beat #16 NJCU to start the season. Beat an 11-11 Alvernia team by 9. Only beat FDU by 1. I don't know where to put them, but I'll put them in the mix as a better team than Manhattanville.

2019 - 2020: DeSales by a wide margin. Eastern right behind them. Wilkes/Miser/DelVal in the next tier. Stevens as a wildcard. Something about this looks awful familiar to this year.

Lefty, shoot holes in my theories. ;)

I will also say this. If the playoffs are DeSales, Eastern, DelVal, Miser/Wilkes.........................the DelVal coach should get Coach of the Year given his roster relative to the depth of DeSales and the returning, experienced rosters of Eastern, Miser and Wilkes. Let's see if the coaches see it that way or if they take they lazy way out and give it to the coach with the best overall regular season record.

Saban and Sweeney have the best records every year but are not the best coaches. They'd better win with all of those five star All-Americans. The best coaches do the most with the least.

If Del Val finishes top two he better get it. Third, should.. fourth, winner of the league
should get it. Del Val lost two games on buzzer beaters, have been without Singleton for the past 14 games (a starter), Lybrant Robinson for 3 games (lost all three) and Russell will miss the year to constant concussions.  Credit to McNelly too. He lost Pena for the year then Clifton Adams for several games. They still stand at 7-3.

Talk about a big game Wednesday with Wilkes @ Mis.

I completely agree with you. Anything from first to third, the DelVal coach should get COY. Fourth, no way (although I'd argue fourth, but a game or two behind the prohibitive pre-season favorites, DeSales, Eastern and Miser/Wilkes........he should get consideration).

I hear the Singleton loss is huge. Russell would of at least given them a big (as Eastern and Miser have about 3-4 "bigs"). If Coach Mark gets Singleton and Russell back, along with Robinson, Washington, Cianculli, Myers and Johnson and brings in at least one big that can play right away (preferably a transfer) and a freshmen or two who can give them minutes, they could be in the mix next year.

I give the Eastern coach some credit (despite what a few folks at eastern think of him off the court). Although he did get to replace a 6'6", much-older-than-his-age Pena with a more athletic, 6'71/2" Blet and a 6'7" athletic Bowers. They have actually been playing a different and somewhat better brand of ball (faster) without Pena.

The Wilkes @ Miser game should be good. I am stunned at this year's Miser team. Just about every key player back (I can't think of one they lost) from last year's MAC Champ team. Adds a D-II tall, athletic transfer (Iton) and has not been bit much by even small injuries to key players, let alone season ending injuries...................and they are still scuffling. That game is the last regular season matchup for those two teams, for a ton of key players: Robinson, Evans, Bowen, Kenny, Rodway, McCreary and transfers Iton and Mann. That is a lot of talent hanging up the sneakers (and good for the other MAC teams not losing near as much) :)

CCHoopster

JM-  How do you see this week shaking out for the top five teams?

DeSales- @ Manhattanville and vs Miser
Del Val- @King's and vs FDU
Eastern- @FDU and vs Manhattanville
Wilkes- @ Miser and vs King's
Miser- vs Wilkes and @DeSales


jmcozenlaw

Quote from: CCHoopster on February 04, 2019, 07:46:28 PM
JM-  How do you see this week shaking out for the top five teams?

DeSales- @ Manhattanville and vs Miser
Del Val- @King's and vs FDU
Eastern- @FDU and vs Manhattanville
Wilkes- @ Miser and vs King's
Miser- vs Wilkes and @DeSales

I see DeSales winning both games
DelVal loses at King's and beats FDU
Eastern wins both and Miser beats Wilkes and loses at DeSales

How about you CC?

CCHoopster

DeSales wins both
Del Val, by the skin of their teeth win both
Mis splits beating Wilkes and losing to DeSales
Wilkes loses to Misericordia and beats Kings
Eastern sweeps the week both by plus 10 beans

Final standings projection:

DeSales
Eastern
Del Val
Misericordia- could finish third