MBB: MAC Freedom League

[bziadie]

C.J.

I believe the correct criteria is non-regional, COMMON SITE, common-opponent.  It is like criteria #147 on the list. There are few things worse than trying to figure out the MAC tie-breaking criteria.  That guy that did the Rubick's (sp?) Cube in 11 seconds would even get stone-walled.

[gizzard]

Cousart has the first triple double in Kings history, I say keep boozin it up kid. 

[upton]

I was just wondering if anyone know when the regional rankings come out (or if they already have and I missed them).  Thanks in advance for the help.

Also, I saw the 1st Scranton/Kings matchup and was unimpressed with the Monarchs.  They didn't seem like they had enough weapons to make a run at a depleated Scranton lineup.  Maybe it was a bad night.  As always, it should be a great game.  I just hope my 2 year old that I'm taking with me can sit for 4 hours through both games.

[ColonelJohn4Life]

Bob, absolutely it's non-regional, common site, common opponent.  Which comes after head-to-head, record against highest other team not involved (i.e. a 2nd place tie decided by record against 1st), record against all other successive teams, regional common-site common opponent, and summation of hand-written notes from 4th grade teachers.  I'm all about amending the tie-breakers to the following steps:

1. Head-to-head
2. Whichever team the Burdett brothers like better
3. Assuming a Matt/Adam split, whichever team Warren Thompson likes better.
4. If Warren's busy, coin toss.

Gizzard, King's has been playing basketball for like 50 years now.  (Bob, feel free to jump in and correct me.)  There is NO way that this is the first triple-double ever.  "Recorded triple-double", I'd be tempted to believe it.  But someone, at some point, had to have had a Big O-ish 10+ points, 10+ rebounds, and 10+ assists.

[Pat Coleman]

First rankings aren't until next week.

[Warren Thompson]

I'm all about amending the tie-breakers to the following steps:

1. Head-to-head
2. Whichever team the Burdett brothers like better
3. Assuming a Matt/Adam split, whichever team Warren Thompson likes better.
4. If Warren's busy, coin toss.

It's very nice that you included me in the company of the Burdett brothers.

However, the actual tie-breaker hinges on the recent whereabouts of the College of Charleston transfer and/or his siblings or cousins. If he (or they) has been verifiably spotted anywhere near the campus of one of the tied teams, said team shall be granted the top seed.

[Coach C]

I believe that the 5th tiebreaker is the team who has gone the longest since having an alcohol-related incident published in the newspaper.  Or maybe it's the team with the most recently published one.  I forget.

C

[rollingthunda]

They should use the tiebreakers from the board game "Scene It".

[Leo The Lion]

Upton,

The last Scranton/King's game was probably King's worst or maybe 2nd worst performance of their MAC play so far this year.  I would definitley chalk that one up to an off night.  The offense looked lethargic, Scranton was more dominant on the boards, and King's lacked any momentum to even develop a big run.  I guess we'll find out tomorrow whether that was a result of an off-night for King's or a great gameplan from Scranton.

As for the tiebreakers discussion, I know very little about the mysterious proceedings of the MAC gods in determination of their conference standings.  All I know is that head-to-head Margin of Victory is the second tiebreaker.  As with King's and DeSales last year, both teams won at the other's gym by 27 points I think.  So DeSales got the one seed which is based on the third tiebreaker, which may be decided in a game of Mancala for all I know.

-Leo

[Section J Guy]

http://academic.uofs.edu/department/athletics/bb1976reunionprogram.pdf



Ahh the 70's....

[ColonelJohn4Life]

Warren, you have extensive knowledge of local basketball; therefore, you were the 3rd tie-breaker.  I would have made our fair Webmaster the 3rd tie-breaker, except when Wilkes, Scranton, and King's tie for a title, Catholic would end up with the automatic bid.

Perhaps Jamie Cousart has a disease referred to in ColonelJohn's family as KCS, "Kerry Collins Syndrome".  Kerry Collins would play halves of football with the Giants where he couldn't hit anything wearing a blue shirt.  Halftime, he'd go in, then come out stumbling, but throwing perfect passes.  I don't advise for a 19 year old, but hey, anything you gotta do to kill those jitters, man.

[Coach C]

CJ4L -

Was your knowledge of this syndrome confiend to your observation of TV, or perhaps some more immediate situation?

C

[bziadie]

C.J.

Regarding Cousart's triple-double......it is the first one since I have been at King's and that was in 1992-93.  Before that I have no idea as there were no old box scores left over or no mention of anything like that in any files. So basicially I have no idea whether or not it is the first one.  Just past game scores and your basic school records such as most points in a game, etc. career points, etc. 

And since the MAC did not start using a conference-wide statistics program where box scores would be archived until a few years ago, finding that info would be looking looking for a needle in a haystack.

The school record for assists is 7.1 per-game by John Snyder in 1989-90 and he also averaged 11.2 points and 6.3 rebounds that year so it seems possible that he could have done it that year.

[Leo The Lion]

CJ4L-

Very interesting medical diagnosis, perhaps you missed the boat, I think an M.D. would have been right up your alley.  Does Wilkes offer that? 

Anyway alcohol and sports go hand-in-hand, some of our greatest American athletes liked to drink before their games (Babe Ruth, Mickey Mantle, John Kruk, and of course Kerry Collins).  I bet Kerry threw some wicked parties during that Rose Bowl Season in Penn State, parties that Wilkes and King's students can't even fathom.  Luckily for Kerry, The Citizen's Voice doesn't cover the State College Area.

-Leo

[bziadie]

Leo:

Perhaps C.J. forgot his pledge.....this sound familiar?   


CJ4L, January 27, 2006.........

"As a Wilkes fan, I recognize we are not without sin, so I won't cast any stones.  I'll ask for a quick show of hands - who didn't have their first beer until they were 21??  Just as I thought... "