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Gregory Sager

Heh. Blame that on the crappy Billszone website, which is the only GIS I could find for the pic of Stratton laying out Lincoln. I've seen the full-sized pic in books, and it's a great action shot.
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diehardfan

Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 24, 2006, 09:20:44 PM
Quote from: ColonelJohn4Life on March 24, 2006, 08:24:49 AMAnd come on, Greg, assistant coach rings are not the ones in question here.  No knock to assistants, but if I stand next Jenny McCarthy while she's having sex, it doesn't count.
It does if you're the one who's holding the video camera. But your point about assistant coaches is valid.

Gross sex analogies aside (I was going to come up with an more appropriately similar veined analogy and then decided thoroughly against the idea of posting it), :D I totally disagree with the thoughts behind them.

Saying the assistant coaches aren't a huge part of why a team has a championship, at many schools, is just totally not valid. Many of them recruit, and plenty of them do substantial amounts of in-game coaching. Sure, there are some teams where it really looks like the 4-5 assistants are just standing there to look pretty in their suits, or taking stats or whatever, but I'm sure there are plenty of them that are so invaluable to their programs that their programs simply wouldn't have gotten that far without them.
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cold_case

Greg,
Here is the link to a much larger photo of Stratton's "hit" so people won't have to strain their eyes.

www.billszone.com/mtlog/archives/2004/08/01/bills_20_
chargers_7_1964_afl_championship_game.php

Pat Coleman

Just a reminder, there's baseball and lacrosse discussions on the site now as well:

Freedom baseball: http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=4362.0
Commonwealth baseball: http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=4363.0
MAC lacrosse: http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=4312.0

No reason the offseason has to be so painful. :)
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Gregory Sager

Quote from: diehardfan on March 25, 2006, 02:49:36 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 24, 2006, 09:20:44 PM
Quote from: ColonelJohn4Life on March 24, 2006, 08:24:49 AMAnd come on, Greg, assistant coach rings are not the ones in question here.  No knock to assistants, but if I stand next Jenny McCarthy while she's having sex, it doesn't count.
It does if you're the one who's holding the video camera. But your point about assistant coaches is valid.

Gross sex analogies aside

I was actually thinking more in terms of the financial windfall associated with being the one holding the camera. One can only imagine the sort of income pocketed by the people who've been the first to peddle sex-of-the-stars videos on the Internet.

Quote from: diehardfan on March 25, 2006, 02:49:36 PMSaying the assistant coaches aren't a huge part of why a team has a championship, at many schools, is just totally not valid. Many of them recruit, and plenty of them do substantial amounts of in-game coaching. Sure, there are some teams where it really looks like the 4-5 assistants are just standing there to look pretty in their suits, or taking stats or whatever, but I'm sure there are plenty of them that are so invaluable to their programs that their programs simply wouldn't have gotten that far without them.

FWIW, Bosko Djurickovic was the only assistant coach that North Park had during the national-championship threepeat. His contribution to the Park's success in '78, '79, and '80 was immeasurable and indispensable, and Dan McCarrell would be the first one to say that.

Quote from: cold_case on March 25, 2006, 04:04:50 PM
Greg,
Here is the link to a much larger photo of Stratton's "hit" so people won't have to strain their eyes.

www.billszone.com/mtlog/archives/2004/08/01/bills_20_chargers_7_1964_afl_championship_game.php

Thanks, Cold Case. Dunno why I couldn't get that Billszone pic to blow up.

Man, every time I see that pic I cringe. Must've sucked big-time to be Keith Lincoln at that particular moment.
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ColonelJohn4Life

Quote from: diehardfan on March 25, 2006, 02:49:36 PM
Saying the assistant coaches aren't a huge part of why a team has a championship, at many schools, is just totally not valid.

April, your point is true.  Locally, one need only look at Scranton '03 vs Scranton '04 to see the relevance of an assistant coach.  Scranton goes from 5-20 to 20-5 and the Sweet 16 in one season DIRECTLY because they hired a former assistant coach.

Unfortunately, the larger point was just, "What D-III schools have provided multiple alums who have won D-III titles as head coaches?" Bosko Djurickovicrzyzewskiovitchski (did I spell it right that time??) and McCarrell qualify for the list which now reads as follows: North Park, Wilkes.

And Greg, you're from Chicago... where's the stories from Ms. McCarthy's illustrious high school basketball career? 

In other news, that's a GREAT hit!  ;D
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cold_case

Greg,
Lincoln had a decent career, mostly with the Chargers.
I wonder how much Lincoln's rookie card would fetch?
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Gregory Sager

Quote from: ColonelJohn4Life on March 28, 2006, 05:40:36 AMAnd Greg, you're from Chicago... where's the stories from Ms. McCarthy's illustrious high school basketball career? 

She had a couple of sisters who were stars at Mother McAuley H.S. who later went on to play D1 ball at UIC, but I don't think Jenny played hoops. I remember her telling David Letterman that she had been a field hockey player in high school. Makes sense that she'd go to Hollywood for a career, since in the movies the slutty high school girls always play field hockey.
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NEPAFAN

Quote from: ColonelJohn4Life on March 28, 2006, 05:40:36 AM
Quote from: diehardfan on March 25, 2006, 02:49:36 PM
Saying the assistant coaches aren't a huge part of why a team has a championship, at many schools, is just totally not valid.

April, your point is true.  Locally, one need only look at Scranton '03 vs Scranton '04 to see the relevance of an assistant coach.  Scranton goes from 5-20 to 20-5 and the Sweet 16 in one season DIRECTLY because they hired a former assistant coach.


Now Cj, i know you really don't believe that. There was a little more to it than that.
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cold_case

Hey NEPA,
Are you a G-Man?

NEPAFAN

Yeah we are working a D3hoops gambling ring !
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cold_case

Quote from: NEPAFAN on March 28, 2006, 02:00:57 PM
Yeah we are working a D3hoops gambling ring !

Way to go Pat. You build up a nice thing and now this. ;D

Pat Coleman

Hey, hey, NEPAfan does not speak for D3hoops.com, D3sports.com, its parent company or the horse we rode in on. :)
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Pat-

Any thoughts to a recruit database? I know of other sites which are able to do this ( yes for d3). Just curious?
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Pat Coleman

Quote from: NEPAFAN on March 28, 2006, 03:28:11 PM
Pat-

Any thoughts to a recruit database? I know of other sites which are able to do this ( yes for d3). Just curious?

Point me to one of those sites, if you would. I haven't seen one.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.