MBB: MAC Freedom League

saratoga · December 10, 2006, 05:03:46 PM

P.S. Welcome back Warren.

Warren Thompson · December 10, 2006, 05:23:59 PM

Quote from: saratoga on December 10, 2006, 05:03:46 PM
P.S. Welcome back Warren.

Thanks. I took a short sabbatical to think things over (whatever that means

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susquejamma · December 10, 2006, 06:59:20 PM

Quote from: Warren Thompson on December 10, 2006, 04:10:39 PM
There you go again, jamma. E-town's not only "doltish," now you claim it's a "clown college."

(You're rapidly earning yourself a reputation for not knowing the official unofficial [and thus unspoken] rules: in the MAC rooms, only Wilkes and Scranton fans are allowed to insult and abuse each other and their institutions. By common consent, every other MAC venue is untouchable.)

Who says Scranton and Wilkes are the only teams in the MAC to have a rivalry? Commonwealth Conference is an entirely different conference, so why can't we have our own rivalries? Susquehanna and Elizabethtown have a rivalry that goes beyond basketball. This Fall, over 2,000 fans showed up for a soccer match between the two schools in which Public Safety officers had to create a line of seperation between jarring fans. In fact, Elizabethtown has an even bigger rivalry with Messiah.

I think my analysis of Scranton being a better school than Elizabethtown was entirely valid and not necessarily abusive. Furthermore, it has been rumored that the Elizabethtown lowers its academic standards for athletes. So yes, it is doltish.

Warren Thompson · December 10, 2006, 07:15:08 PM

'jamma:

I bow to your superior knowledge and wisdom. My sincere apologies. Please forgive me ....

susquejamma · December 10, 2006, 07:57:45 PM

::sarcasm noted::

Knightstalker · December 10, 2006, 11:13:28 PM

Quote from: susquejamma on December 10, 2006, 06:59:20 PM

I think my analysis of Scranton being a better school than Elizabethtown was entirely valid and not necessarily abusive. Furthermore, it has been rumored that the Elizabethtown lowers its academic standards for athletes. So yes, it is doltish.

Do you really think Elizabethtown is the only MAC school to lower its standards for athletes? I know for a fact that Scranton did at one time, whether they still do I can't say for sure, but I am pretty sure they get a few tips in. My brothers roommate at Scranton was a 6'7+ kid from Long Island that was a pretty good center, he did nothing but drink for two years and only occasionally show up for classes but somehow managed to stay in school for two years. He used to brag how he got his sister to take his SAT's for him. Point of the story is no school is squeaky clean when it comes to athletics.

susquejamma · December 11, 2006, 02:26:11 AM

Quote from: Knightstalker on December 10, 2006, 11:13:28 PMHe used to brag how he got his sister to take his SAT's for him. Point of the story is no school is squeaky clean when it comes to athletics.

Don't they check identification at the SATs?

Knightstalker · December 11, 2006, 06:54:16 AM

This was thirty years ago and nobody checked mine a couple years after that.

cold_case · December 11, 2006, 08:24:25 AM

Quote from: Knightstalker on December 11, 2006, 06:54:16 AM
This was thirty years ago and nobody checked mine a couple years after that.

Who took yours, or did you take them for someone else?

I believe you and I discussed the 6-7+ kid from Long Island last year. I doubt Scranton's head coach at that time would bother to go all out and bring the player in. He was a stiff from the start and eventually flunked out of school.

NEPAFAN · December 11, 2006, 10:10:23 AM

Quote from: cold_case on December 11, 2006, 08:24:25 AM
Quote from: Knightstalker on December 11, 2006, 06:54:16 AM
This was thirty years ago and nobody checked mine a couple years after that.

Who took yours, or did you take them for someone else?

I believe you and I discussed the 6-7+ kid from Long Island last year. I doubt Scranton's head coach at that time would bother to go all out and bring the player in. He was a stiff from the start and eventually flunked out of school.

I think we discuss him every year!

CC do you know what is wrong with Kreuter? Or is it coach's decision that he is on the bench?

cold_case · December 11, 2006, 10:41:41 AM

I don't know what is going on with Kreuter but since Danzig took over, some top players seem to fall out of his favor.
Remember Courtney Steele and Shawn Clarke? They were two promising freshmen that never returned after their first year. McGowan's situation is unusual and now Kreuter is another one of Danzig's victims.
When you ask questions, you get the same response so why bother.

In other notes, I noticed a couple of interesting items over the weekend. Ohio State-Marion (remember them) lost at Georgetown (KY) College, 138-27 on Sunday. Georgetown must be pretty good, considering they lost at Big East power, Louisville, 94-92 earlier this year.
I also noticed Sami Wylie and Lincoln were blown out at Ramapo, 91-75. I guess those three-pointers weren't falling since Wylie scored just 14 points, compared to the 69 he rung up on OSU-Marion.
I wonder if he took 44 three's against Ramapo?

NEPAFAN · December 11, 2006, 11:12:43 AM

Quote from: cold_case on December 11, 2006, 10:41:41 AM

In other notes, I noticed a couple of interesting items over the weekend. Ohio State-Marion (remember them) lost at Georgetown (KY) College, 138-27 on Sunday.

I saw that score in the paper, got wonder who is drawing up OSU-Marion's schedule.

CC, got to love the output from Scranton's sophmores though!

saratoga · December 11, 2006, 12:12:04 PM

Mike Kreuter has had back spasms & a pinched nerve in his neck. Knightstalker, as hard as it may seem, some kids are really good high school students then find the "freedom" of college life a little too much to handle. This situation may lead an otherwise good kid down a very slippery slope & shortly thereafter they are asked to leave. Having someone else take their SAT's...I think this story tends to be embellished each year and has now taken on mythical proportions. See you next year when we find out that not only did his "sister" take his SAT's, but that his older brother actually drove in from Jersey on 3 different game days & suited up.

Warren Thompson · December 11, 2006, 12:20:00 PM

Burning Question: Is this 6-7+ fella from Long Island maybe related to that College of Charleston transfer who's reportedly still looking (it's been maybe five years now, at least) for the Wilkes campus?

Knightstalker · December 11, 2006, 12:34:15 PM

My brother's room-mate used to brag a lot, he was also drunk every time I saw him. He was not a good student in High School. Father Rock the dorm advisor really liked the kid. He was a really nice guy but not a good student, but somehow he managed to play for two years before flunking out. My parents used to wonder how he stayed in school when he was never in class. He was also on an academic "Scholarship" to go to Scranton. Possibly he went to the College of Charleston after Scranton and is now drunkenly wandering the hills of Eastern PA trying to find Wilkes. Actually someone said last year he runs a beer distributorship, he should be a beer expert by now.

When I took the SAT's all they checked for was two sharpened #2 pencils and that nobody had a slide rule or a circa TI-80 calculator. They even gave everyone extra #2 pencils. You used to show up at the testing site with your pencils and letter and that was it. Someone could easily have replaced you once the tests started.