MBB: MAC Freedom League

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Leo The Lion

Ok all, I'm done with this refs argument.  My point is, I don't like blaming bad officiating as an excuse, no matter how blatant the error may be.  I was simply referring to Bob's first post that although the call on The Cous was terrible, its not THE reason King's lost that game.

NepaFan,
You may not care about my opinion on the King's/Scranton game, but in my infamous "Wow Wow Wow Wow" post, I did comment on a missed techincal foul.  From my vantage point, Hawk was blatently calling for a time out.  No official called it, while Hawk was standing there, the ball was ripped out of his hands and the scrum then occured.

cold_case

Quote from: Leo The Lion on February 16, 2007, 07:44:20 PMFrom my vantage point, Hawk was blatently calling for a time out.  No official called it, while Hawk was standing there, the ball was ripped out of his hands and the scrum then occured.

I expected no less of a post. :-X

lefty2

 CC,

I've been meaning to compliment you on your outstanding photo of the Wyoming Monument.
The person who says something can't be done shouldn't stand in the way of the one who's doing it.

cold_case

Ya know, lefty, I was waiting for somebody to notice the poster who called it that. Good pickup. ;D

lefty2

It's right down the street.
The person who says something can't be done shouldn't stand in the way of the one who's doing it.

naismith

Hey gang,

Let's address this one game at a time:

1) Scranton-- Kings: my reference to a foul was when Hawk got mugged after retrieving a rebound of a Kings miss. (I don't recall who shot the ball for Kings but it was stupid decision) On that play, 3 kings players hit him. He never signalled time out imho. It was directly in front of me. I know I would have seen a to call.  He actuall had  both hands on the ball until the Kings Chiropractors mangled his back. I was further away for the Arnold shot. Could not say either way.
Game, overall, was pretty well called.

2) Wilkes --Kings:  if anything, the game was called with bias towards Kings (that old timer never gives Wilkes a call) ---Wilkes had 5 1st half travels called against mostly a packed in 2-3 zone. (when Kable entered Kings went man to man immediately) . Kings players walked at least 4 to 5 times and those were not called.
I recall Cousart being pretty upset on the Kresge foul...you could read his lips , "I didn't touch him" ...
I didn't have a good view. I think Gulla drove and kicked out a nice pass to TK at top of the key. Cousart closed out and jumped at TK.....actually going past hm (if you can visualize that). Contact? I don't know.
Again, overall, the game was called ok.

3) FDU-Scranton,,,,the ft totals speak for themselves....someone should research if any Freedom team ever shot more ft's than FDU when visiting their Jersey lair.

Enough for now on the zebras.

CC, I've go to adopt a team after tomorrow.
Make the case for Scranton....

Naismith

bill

Guys
As the lone New Jersey voice here, we're always going to see things differently about officials. We happen to think we get the short end of the stick in N.E. PA, just as you believe you do when you visit NJ. Remember though, you only have to come to NJ once (after this year), while we go to PA for every other conference game...
Anyhow, the  crux of this post is for Naismith. You asked "someone should research if any Freedom team ever shot more ft's than FDU when visiting their Jersey lair"
Well, it happens quite often.
This year alone, using only MAC Freedom teams, FDU was out "attempted"by:
1/30 - vs.Del Val, 19-11
1/20 - vs. Kings, 29-19
1/10 - vs. DeSales, 18-11

It's really not as bad as some might think....
"To build may have to be the slow and laborious task of years. To destroy can be the thoughtless act of a single day."

naismith

Hey, thanks Bill.
That is interesting....
Were you at the Scranton game? 
If so, what was your impression?


naismith

Hey CC & Lefty,

It should be noted that Wyoming Monument stands proudly as a remembrance to a massacre....

No No CC it was not Old Forge vs Dunmore or even  Scranton vs Wilkes....lol...It was the Senecas and some Brits beting the hell out of a bunch of farmers in 1778. The battle survivors were massacred by the Indians.  (they claimed the settlers had broken a treaty that would have allowed a casino ).





Teddy Roosevelt attended the initial dedication and his grandson returned 100 years later.

Yes, that is a nice view of that Luzerne County landmark!!


bill

Naismith

I'm sorry, I don't do impressions :D
(As a big "airplane" fan, I've been waiting to use that line for some time!)

Unfortunately, I was not able to attend the game. As the father of 2 youngsters, many of the weekend games are too tough for me to drive almost an hour from home to attend...I will be at the Wednesday playoff game though, be it on the road or at home!

Hopefully, the team will be able to get to Kings tomorrow safely. All reports from NJ make various PA highways resemble war zones!
"To build may have to be the slow and laborious task of years. To destroy can be the thoughtless act of a single day."

ColonelJohn4Life

Quote from: naismith on February 16, 2007, 10:15:42 PM
I've go to adopt a team after tomorrow.
Make the case for Scranton....

Naismith - I make the case for FDU.  Classic Underdog tale.  I'm certain no one expected FDU to make a run to the playoffs.  It would be the stuff of legends if they cut down a net.

'Toga, CC, and Lefty - If you use some contacts at the University of Scranton, a student in 1994(?) did a weekly TV show called "On the Road with Pete".  One of the episodes did a piece on the Wyoming Monument and Queen Esther's Rock.  Well worth a look, if you can find a tape.
Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes.

cold_case

Oh my GOD, you're not going to belive this.

Section J Guy

Quote from: cold_case on February 17, 2007, 01:15:47 PM
Oh my GOD, you're not going to belive this.


College of Charleston transfer??!?

Section J Guy

Way to go Royals. Blow an 18 point first half lead to lose at Desales.



Gut check time for playoff week. When is the last time this team had a gutty win?

naismith

DeSales beats Scranton???
Kings thumps FDU
Wilkes dumps Drew

So, if I have it right....
DeSales at Kings
FDU at Scranton