MBB: MAC Freedom League

[NEPAFAN]

CJ: Who do I feel Bess roots for these days? Kings. Do I know that for sure, no. Will I ever ask him, no. But, there have been nights when both the Royals & Kings have been home & he's chosen "that other place" to catch a game. On the other hand, he still does go to Royal games & he's still pretty close to Canio so who knows? Being the Renaissance man he is...maybe he loves any basketball game just for the artistic quality. Should be a very physical one tonight at the Long Center. Royals:67/Desales:62.

First prediction from Toga in a long time......!

[cold_case]

Zades, thanks for the heads up on the Emslie kid. Was told differently but that's cool. I'm far from Carnac, but like I posted earlier: Knowing the MAC the way I do for the past 35 or so years, I'm never shocked when it comes to voting. The more things change coaching-wise, the more they same the same.
However, I really thought Soboleski would get on but hey, just one wrong ain't bad. 8)

[saratoga]

NEPA: Just want to keep that winning percentage edge. Last time I called one was 3 weeks ago when the Lady Royals got knocked off in a perfectly placed upset special. Take the Royals plus the points. Take Desales to have the 1st. rebound, the Royals to hit the first 3 & the Royals to have the 1st. turnover. Desales takes the first timeout & if Scranton learned anything from Sat's. loss it will be evident not in the first 5 minutes of the game, but in the last 7 minutes of it.

[ljk]

All things considered, I think the league got it right this year with the all conference selections, and player and coaching awards.  I'm going with King's and Scranton tonight, looking forward to King's/Scranton III for Saturdays final.   

[NEPAFAN]

First 5 minutes, last 7 minutes...as long as it equals 40 minutes of complete basketball...

[upton]

Final regional rankings are out and it looks like Kings or Scranton might get an at large bid with both being ranked in the top 8 in the Middle Atlantic Region.  I doubt both will get in if one of them doesn't win the MAC Freedom tourny, but a win by one and a loss by the other in the finals might get 2 teams in the tourny.

[naismith]

Well,

Did COY candidate Danzig have a cameo in the "Departed"??

All future Scranton posts can be forwarded to the hereafter file at landmark.com

Congrats to DeSales faithful on the upset.

Naismith

[naismith]

"Your #3 criteria "3) If you are not supposed to win and you do not win.................................... ................you win"
is not relevant here. FDU was not supposed to win and won. How did we "have anointed #3 and only #3 as their criteria." ?

Yes, you are correct in stating "Now, the correct answers are very simple: The winner should come from scenario #1 or #4."

I'm not sure how we are really disagreeing...."


Here is where we disagree :

Just what did FDU win?
A 4th seed?

That is not a win. Winning is winning the conference.

So you must have beaten Kings.....right?


All I see is 3 demolition derbies.
Talk about back to back thumpings!!!

Up 14 in the 1st half and you lose by 9 (and it could have been worse).

Outplayed and outcoached by a better team and the 'real' COY:  JP.

Why didn't COY Marion have an answer for the inside out game of Kings 2nd half.  Why did he stick with Biancosino when it was clear he could not handle Kings inside play? 

Oh,....I forgot.....Kings was supposed to win and they won so they lose??

and....................FDU was supposed to lose and they lost ( but only by 9) so they won??

So does FDU play Scranton?

Naismith

[saratoga]

When Scranton plays 40 minutes of basketball...they'll win a game, till then...chalk up another PUTRID first half and another loss. I didn't get worried when they played a so-so second half in Kings#1 & lost by a few. Didn't even worry that much with a horrible 1st. half vs. Catholic which led to a loss at home. I started to get somewhat worried when Susquehanna slapped them around at will in another pathetic 1st. half...but, they did come back in the 2nd. half to tie the game late only to then get blitzed by a 14-2 run over the last 5 minutes...worried again. Then the Royals seem to peak around the 3/4 mark of the season...as they put together some nice wins & are or should be primed to face Kings at home. Guess what...another beyond horrible 1st. half...a regrouping in the 2nd. half only to let another one slip away. I mean these guys are falling behind not 8-10 points...this is getting scary as they are playing out of the shoot like it's the first time they've laced them up...and they are down 17 points at the freakin Long Center. Another loss. Off to FDU...fade late, another loss. Last regular season game at Desales...up 18 in the 1st. half...no answer for the defensive adjustments...lose at the end. Rematch tonight at home...once again, down 18 in the ...you guessed it, 1st. half...storming out in the 2nd. half, tie it, play back & forth & then lose it with not 1, not 2, not3, but 4 shots at offensive boards as the clock hits 1.2 seconds. In reflection...something is not right with this picture. Far too many horrible starts...far too many horrible finishes & far too many gaps in the game where the defense gets beat down the court. I feel for Darrin Cannon...as this is not how his season shouldhave ended & the returning players & staff need to take a very serious look at game preperation as these complete & total beatings have happened far too much...especially at home.How a team knowing it has to win to continue the season can play so non-chalant at home is beyond me. Falling behind is one thing...getting a physical beating & getting trounced at the Long Center is quite another. Some kids step up in these games, some step aside & some get run over...what a horrible ending to a promising season. I give all the credit in the world to the Desales kids...they took it right to Scranton early & often & would not fade going down the stretch when it may have been easier to do so. The Royals had a nice season, some kids really improved & put together very nice games...but, all things considered, this is a game you have to win...almost... that will get you a ticket to the womens game.

[saratoga]

Does the UofS now play FDU...cute! What I do know is as horrible as Scranton played...at least they had a game...where was Wilkes??? Oh, that's right...one game out of last place. There's always next year...line forms to the right.

[naismith]

Saratoga,

You are very very right about Scranton.
But, according the the Freedom League Bylaws on display at FDU .....

You lost and were not supposed to lose ....so....you lose

Off the Landmark Board with your post.......so says Karma  Kommisioner Kold Kase!!

Naismith

[naismith]

Saratoga,

Geez....I was teasing Bill down at FDU but  he is either seeking me out at Senunas (where were you Leo?) or rereading his debate team textbooks.

Hey, imho, Scranton had the talent to go all the way this year (you can review my earlier posts). Still feel that way but what happened happened....

As far as Wilkes, they closed on a two game win streak after tweaking a few things on offense...
Everyone will be back (the freshman class are almost all deans list students) and I am sure Coach JR
has been on the road recruiting addtional talent.

Wilkes will be fine 2007/2008.....as should the Royals.

Naismith

[Leo The Lion]

Sorry about the no show Nais, Leo enjoyed a quiet celebration with a few friends after the victory.

I never like taunting other teams who have lost when my team is still around but....

CC its been two hours since the Scranton loss and still no post?  By the way King's has a purple banner with gold trim that has Scranton written on it.  The College no longer as use for it, anyone interested in giving the banner a good home, please contact Joe DiMaggio at the Scandlon Gym Equipment Room.

By the way the Player of the Year gave a double bird to the King's student section at the end of the game.  Ahhh, nothing wrong with showing some emotion.

However, now onto the DeSales battle.  SHould be a dandy, hope the Monarchs don't look past them.  More on the game in the future days...

[cold_case]

I never like taunting other teams who have lost when my team is still around but....
CC its been two hours since the Scranton loss and still no post?  By the way King's has a purple banner with gold trim that has Scranton written on it.  The College no longer as use for it, anyone interested in giving the banner a good home, please contact Joe DiMaggio at the Scandlon Gym Equipment Room.

I had some money to lose at Mohegan last night, thus no post until now.
The Freedom League forgot one award: Toolbox of the Year, and that goes to you Leo. How many points did you score for "your" team last night?
Who said I was a Scranton fan? Does that make Naismith a Scranton fan because he talked about them all season like he was an important dues paying alum? I enjoyed talking about them because it annoyed the heck out of you and CJ, and it was fun. By the way, Leo, did you ever play baseball in college?
Also, if I'm not mistaken, you have to take four or five banners down, all of schools that are leaving to help form the hoi paloi of academia. Before you know it, that wall will resemble a who's who of PAC schools and JC's that decided to go four years.

Nais, how about putting aside the razzing of Bill and Saratoga for a second. I hear Shovlin is taking classes at Wilkes and plans to play basketball next year for the Colonels. Good for him. What did you hear?

[bill]

Obviously, people are going to have differing opinions on what happened during games.
I felt last nights King's game was well played by both sides...I certainly wouldn't say that FDU was "thumped".
Both teams shot extremely well from the floor in the first half. FDU led until about 7:00 left in the game, and then couldn't buy a basket, layups included. I believe we only scored about 9 points in the last 7 minutes, missing many open shots...
Biancosino only played 9 minutes of the game - Rimol does need a rest at times...I wouldn't say the Coach stuck with him too long...
As for "iit could have been worse" - yes, it could have. FDU could have easily been up by 11-15 points going into half time.
Kings made shots down the stretch, and FDU didn't. Kings advances, and I hope they do well against DeSales and posibbly the NCAA's..

On a side note- how about those Kings students? I'm shocked that the Kings AD doesn't reign them in. The cursing, homeophbic chants that came out of that section all night were ridiculous. It was actually funny to hear the announcer read the MAC code of conduct - and right as he mentioned that foul language is not permitted -  The student section was in its loudest "FU FDU chant"....
It would not have changed the game at all, but Kings should have been hit with a technical foul when Pierre didn't have enough room to inbound the ball. I've never seen a player moved to inbound a ball, rather than have the fans moved back.
If I were Ms. Ish, I'd be embarrased!