MBB: MAC Freedom League

naismith · March 03, 2007, 12:49:00 AM

Leo,

Well, I still don't know who you are??

But I have enjoyed your company and commentary here at D3hoops.....And best of luck in your endeavors.....And I am certain you will fare well and that your last post wasn't really your D3 Farewell.
All this even though you stood us up for refreshments at Senunas before and after the games. (and lied about your age)

My e-mail is on board......so if you want to meet a few of us some time for laughs etc. ...it can be arranged.
Of course, CC......who is the D3 Sultan of Sarcasm as well as Karma King .(but truly a pretty nice lad...lol).......has been waiting for that Old Forge dinner for over a year now..................

Just think of the Rank and Royalty present if we could get a Colonel, Sultan, King, Monarch and a Dr. together at the same time and same table.....

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm-----do you all think the President of the Saratoga Fan Club would attend???
And what if Saratoga himself showed up.....it would be a veritable PICK 6.....

Maybe we could bring in Dr. Phil and have a therapy session. Then again, make sure the County Coroner is on duty...lol

Naismith

ColonelJohn4Life · March 03, 2007, 03:04:22 AM

Quote from: cold_case on March 02, 2007, 09:00:19 AM
CJ, don't forget to post next Friday's anniversary. You know, on that date Wilkes was beaten to a pulp by F&M, 107-70, in a game that was uglier than Sonny Corleone at the toll booth.

CC - Oh, you mean the game that Wilkes should have hosted, y'know, had F&M's head coach not been on the selection committee? How, again, does a 25-1 Wilkes team not get to host?? Corruption. J'accuse!

And the more I think about it, King's got a bye in the first round in '05. So that was 2 wins, and your game from 1990 (?) still makes 3. Over that same time, Wilkes has 10 wins in the NCAA's. Count 'em. Keep questioning the facts...

And Leo, I as well don't know ya, though I'd imagine Bob Z has pointed me out to you. The perks of celebrity.

If there's a get together at Senunas's, you and Naismith have my e-mail.

cold_case · March 03, 2007, 07:01:20 AM

Quote from: ColonelJohn4Life on March 03, 2007, 03:04:22 AMCC - Oh, you mean the game that Wilkes should have hosted, y'know, had F&M's head coach not been on the selection committee? How, again, does a 25-1 Wilkes team not get to host?? Corruption. J'accuse!

You really don't want to get me started on F&M's coach being on the selection committee, do you? Or York's head coach, or Alrbight's head coach before that!
In regards to King's, I gave you the benefit of the doubt and took your word that they won three games in 2005. As it turns out, I stand by an earlier remark: Your long standing tradition of being wrong is second to none.
Also, that axe murdering Wilkes absorbed at F&M, was that the year your clock operator got a charley horse is his finger and proceeded to screw Susquehanna in the Freedom playoffs?
Just curious.

r.w. mcnickels · March 03, 2007, 09:46:35 AM

Quote from: ColonelJohn4Life on March 03, 2007, 03:04:22 AM
CC - Oh, you mean the game that Wilkes should have hosted, y'know, had F&M's head coach not been on the selection committee? How, again, does a 25-1 Wilkes team not get to host?? Corruption. J'accuse!

It sucked that the top two records in the country happened to be in the same region, and one had to travel in the sectionals. But F&M was also 25-1 heading into the tournament on a slightly tougher schedule than Wilkes. Rickrode even said it was the right call, by the numbers.

cold_case · March 03, 2007, 10:27:30 AM

r.w. mcnickels, are you any relation to r.w. mcquarters?

Lots of change dropping on this board.

Jimmy Mac · March 03, 2007, 02:09:36 PM

Quote from: wb1313 on March 02, 2007, 08:25:48 AM
I just hope Leo is ok...we sent some people down to watch the bridges to make sure he didn't jump!

you coulda just watched the Channel 22 traffic cameras on Service Electric.

r.w. mcnickels · March 03, 2007, 03:21:30 PM

Quote from: cold_case on March 03, 2007, 10:27:30 AM
r.w. mcnickels, are you any relation to r.w. mcquarters?
Lots of change dropping on this board.

No relation, cold case. Unfortunately I don't have much change to drop, but if I did, I wouldn't forget the world-famous Freedom board.

ljk · March 04, 2007, 12:49:10 AM

Leo: You'll regret leaving us , maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon ,and for the rest of your life. The problems of this D3 post don't amount to a hill of beans in this world. Someday, you'll understand that. Until then, here's looking at you kid. It's been fun.

diehardfan · March 04, 2007, 12:53:57 AM

Quote from: ljk on March 04, 2007, 12:49:10 AM
Leo: You'll regret leaving us , maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon ,and for the rest of your life. The problems of this D3 post don't amount to a hill of beans in this world. Someday, you'll understand that. Until then, here's looking at you kid. It's been fun.

Man, I would be so lucky to get a funny goodbye like that, any of the times I tried to quit. How can you leave now?

ColonelJohn4Life · March 04, 2007, 03:45:13 AM

Wow, diehardfan's in the house... to what do we owe the honor? Just go surfing the boards lookin' for Casablanca quotes?

McNickels - couldn't Wilkes have been bumped from "Atlantic" to "Mid-Atlantic" or vice-versa? My point - it's not like the CAC and MAC-F Champs were in the same regional this year. Why was there such an obligation that year? My larger point - if the two best teams are in the same region... move one! Thanks to that game, any time I hear the name Hans Coppenhoffer I break out into a cold sweat and have nightmares that night.

CC - I'd love to get ya started on G-Rob being on the selection committee... and, I gotta admit, if it's the Susquehanna game I'm thinking of, my only memory of it is Wilkes being down 12-0 early and coming back to win. There was controversy?

wb1313 · March 04, 2007, 07:34:36 AM

Leo...even though you think you're leaving you're really not! You see, this message board is too f'd up to stay away from forever. What will happen is you'll go the summer and fall and totally forget about it and then hear about King's bball while in some distant hole in the ground and come crawling back to see the ramblings of cj, cc, toga, nepa, et al... I know it is hard to believe and I will say goodbye for now....but in reality the allure of D3 basketball is too much to stay away forever.

On the plus side, I hear Toga has entered sensitivity training so there may be a new nicer toga in the near future

(Ok...maybe not after everyone reads his last post..lol) Do you think Pat would let us sell "We love Toga pins?" I mean it's a 2 for 1 at college campuses!

Remember Leo in the immortal words of Animal House: "Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? NO!"

cj...umm cold sweat...umm..don't think we need to know about that

adam · March 04, 2007, 08:01:01 AM

The Susquehanna game being mentioned is the year Wilkes went to the Final Four. Wilkes got the ball with between 4 and 5 seconds left if my memory serves me correctly. Inbounds to Jannuzzi who caught it near midcourt. Jannuzzi drives to the free throw line when everybody in the building knows he's shooting. Everyone except for Dave. Dave dishes to a wide open Scott Cleveland for game winning lay-up at the buzzer. I'm guessing the question is not whether Cleveland's shot beat the buzzer, that was pretty clear. Question is when the clock started. I thought it was pretty fair, but don't take a Wilkes fans word on it. I was just happy they escaped with the win. I think overtime may have yielded a Susquehanna win and that would've eliminated the Colonels home court, and most likely, trip to Salem.

ljk · March 04, 2007, 08:12:00 AM

diehardfan, WB: In regards to leaving the D3 post, remember what Michael Corleone said, "Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in".

ljk · March 04, 2007, 10:00:58 AM

Sorry Bogie fans, i forgot quotes in my send off to Leo. I, too, think Leo will return some day. He brought a lot to the table from the scorers table. A lot of inside stuff from the undercover man. You're right Adam, DJ of Wilkes fooled a lot of people more than once, especially with the game on the line. Everyone thought he would drive and dish , or catch and shoot, but he always caught the opposition and the fans alike off guard. He was some kind of player!

r.w. mcnickels · March 04, 2007, 11:08:26 AM

Quote from: ColonelJohn4Life on March 04, 2007, 03:45:13 AM
McNickels - couldn't Wilkes have been bumped from "Atlantic" to "Mid-Atlantic" or vice-versa? My point - it's not like the CAC and MAC-F Champs were in the same regional this year. Why was there such an obligation that year? My larger point - if the two best teams are in the same region... move one! Thanks to that game, any time I hear the name Hans Coppenhoffer I break out into a cold sweat and have nightmares that night.

If the same thing happened today, they could try to find a way for both F&M and Wilkes to host because both teams obviously deserved a top seed. But the NCAA couldn't bump teams to another bracket in '96 because everything was based on regions. The region hosting the sectionals was predetermined (East at Mid-Atlantic in '96), so the top remaining team after the second round in the Middle Atlantic hosted the sectional. The previous year, the Northeast hosted the Mid-Atlantic, so F&M had to travel with a 27-1 record.

That's the first Hans Coppenhoffer reference I've heard in a long time. Another reference I heard this season (at F&M, no less): Labuda the Shoota.