2012 Division III NCAA Tournament

[smedindy]

Ah, Ralph - they probably wanted a thriller in the first game. You know, familiarity brees contempt and all that!

[fisheralum03]

how could they have FISHER and ROCHESTER in the same POD. that is crazy

[Gray Fox]

Okay, you have four teams and you can match 2 of them in pairings that have not occurred in recent history.

Why do you have UMHB playing Miss College again?  In the first round? For the third time this season!

You could have had Oxy playing Miss College and Maryville playing UMHB!

I wonder that myself.  It must be actual seeding in this case.

[Matt Letourneau]

Yes! Welcome to Washington Messiah, Alvernia and Lincoln....

[pg04]

Well, fisher, the way it looks from the Bracket it would have been U of R or Brockport in that position, take your pick. 

[bamm]

how could they have FISHER and ROCHESTER in the same POD. that is crazy

Fisher is in a bracket without Amherst for the first time in years and you're actually complaining?!?!?

... not that I expect them to get by UR anyway

[fisheralum03]

Rochester has to get by Plattsburgh first

[ziggy]

Okay, you have four teams and you can match 2 of them in pairings that have not occurred in recent history.

Why do you have UMHB playing Miss College again?  In the first round? For the third time this season!

You could have had Oxy playing Miss College and Maryville playing UMHB!

Calvin and Hope could meet for a fifth time this season in the second round.

[pg04]

Rochester has to get by Plattsburgh first

I'm also worried about Brockport getting past Williams.  Williams has played very well lately (and obviously upsetting Amherst) --- Those NESCAC Teams are always a challenge...

[HopeConvert]

Chris is right; the tournament selection process can't be left in the hands of subjective arbiters, because the obscurity and size of D3 is such that no one observer can have the opportunity to see each contending team in action. But there has to be something better than the current process of comparing and selecting teams on a national basis by using regionally-based criteria. The current system pounds square pegs into round holes. There has to be something better out there. I hope that the new RPI-esque rating system that takes opponents' opponents records into consideration will be a step in the right direction.

You worded this opinion much better than I could and I agree 100%. I remember when we were using the opponents' opponents format but honestly don't know how it worked due to the fact I was not very knowledgable about DIII basketball nationally. It is a step in the right direction but it is still the responsibility of each individual school to produce a schedule that benefits them under the selection guidelines of the NCAA.

Everyone knew the criteria this season and had an opportunity to schedule in order to help their QOWI. I think you could have flipped a coin with the last 5-6 teams on the bubble as to who was more deserving. Ultimately if you are in that position you put your fate in the hands of the committee instead of forcing them to take you with better numbers according to the criteria.

I do feel bad for those kids who narrowly missed out on a great experience, but we should be applauding those teams who got in instead of ripping them apart.

I think some, but not all of these issues, could be addressed by counting all D3 games toward QoWI and getting rid of the regional restriction, and also by expanding the field to 64.

[algernon]

Calvin and Hope could meet for a fifth time this season in the second round.

Virginia Wesleyan and Hampden-Sydney could meet for a fourth time this season in the second round.

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

I said I will post my final 4 right here.

UW-Stevens Point
Va Wesleyan
Amherst
Wooster

[ChicagoHopeNut]

I don't believe they set up Hope and Calvin for a potential second round match up! They couldn't be split up like their female counterparts until at least the second weekend! This will be the fifth match up in one year if they both win, that is too many.

[fisheralum03]

who do you think has the tougher road to the Sectionals, Fisher or Brockport?

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

who do you think has the tougher road to the Sectionals, Fisher or Brockport?

I think that maybe the Fisher is tougher.  I don't have St. John Fisher making it out of there on my bracket. But thats just my opinion.

Yes, everyone I have my bracket filled out already.  I will put it to good use as well in the annual contest.