2012 Division III NCAA Tournament

[jack johnson]

what do you think the most likely matchups could be for thursdays games and who do you think should get the byes?

[ronk]

    I question Pat's interpretation that the Thursday games should be considered 8/9 games. If  geographical/travel isn't a factor and with 8 regions and 8 teams in each region, then the games should be considered 4/5 games involving the middle 10 teams of the tournament(ranking 28-37) with the winners playing 5 of the #1 seeds in the 2nd round just as in a normal 8-team tournament?

    Your thoughts, Pat?

[Pat Coleman]

Since the NCAA vacated seeding the brackets as eight brackets of eight about three or four years ago, we started seeding the brackets as four brackets of 16.

Besides, with the D-I tourney the way it is, most people understand the meaning of "8/9 game" in this context. You're actually correct, in NCAA-speak it's a 4/5 game but since the NCAA does NOT speak on this issue, we are using the terminology more accessible to casual fans.

[Greek Tragedy]

The NCAA doesn't officially "seed" teams.  When Pat puts up the tourney pairings, he usually lists "seeds" for each team, simply for bracket purposes, that's all.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

I think I read something in the 2006 handbook about seeding teams now, with the expanded tournament.  They at least mention matching teams up by seed as often as possible.  Also, the highest seed team has to play at certain times during the sectional.

I don't have time to look up the exact language, but I think seeding is back, baby.

[NW Hope Fan]

I know this may all change on Monday, but help me get a picture of something. It has been a few years since Hope has been in the tournament, so bear with me:

If this is the GL bracket:
GREAT LAKES
1. Hope
2. Wittenberg
3. Transylvania
4. North Central
5. Carroll
6. Calvin
7. DePauw
8. Wisconsin Lutheran

Do 1 and 8 host, with 1-8, and 4-5 on "one side" and 2-7 and 3-6 on the "other side"? Or could Hope play Calvin again as early as their second game?

[smedindy]

There are 11 four team regionals and five three team regionals.

Below helps explain.

http://www.d3hoops.com/dailydose/?p=127

Hope would host the 1, 4, 5, and 8 (allegedly).
Witt would host the 2, 3, 6, and 7.

[Pat Coleman]

I think I read something in the 2006 handbook about seeding teams now, with the expanded tournament.  They at least mention matching teams up by seed as often as possible.  Also, the highest seed team has to play at certain times during the sectional.

I don't have time to look up the exact language, but I think seeding is back, baby.

They have always seeded. They just keep it secret.

[patcummings]

For example, Lincoln is listed as our #2 seed in the Mid-Atlantic, but their ability to host is a question.  So even though Wooster is a lower seed, again based on our numbers, they could host.

[smedindy]

I don't think that would worry Lincoln any...with the schedule they had to cobble together I don't think they have any fear.

[patcummings]

It seems as though the official seedings would dictate who hosts, but I think Lincoln's ability may be in question...we'll find out what the committee thinks in due time.

But very true re: Lincoln's schedule.

Christopher Newport is the opposite.  CNU has had 19 games at home and played terribly on the road...

[Pat Coleman]

I am not sure their ability to host is a question. I have never been there but it seems sufficient on paper. That was last season that they had floor issues.

[Coach C]

Lincoln is certianly a strong host possibility.  It's a big building with planety of facility for a mini tournament.

C

[sac]

  It's a big building with planety of facility for a mini tournament.

Wow, "planety" that is a big facility.

[Ralph Turner]

Lincoln is certianly a strong host possibility.  It's a big building with planety of facility for a mini tournament.

C

Which planet?