2012 Division III NCAA Tournament

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ronk

Who decides the time of the games on Friday, who plays at which time, and when do they publicize that?

ziggy

Pat, when do you expect to have the sit down with Obama in which he fills out his bracket? I'm really looking forward to that.

Ralph Turner

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I think that the rankings in the South do not do the justice to how close the South teams were.

Unranked in Regional Rankings #4, McMurry jumped up to #3 with 3 wins this week, including only 1 win over a regionally ranked team.

Look at the rankings as a "peloton" instead of an ordinal system, and you can see how tightly this group of teams were bunched!

Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: nescac1 on February 28, 2011, 02:40:42 PM
I think the four brackets are as balanced as I can recall.  Whitworth and Wooster in one, Williams, Amherst, VWU in a second, Stevens Point, Augustana, St. Thomas in a third, and Middlebury and Randolph-Macon in the fourth ... sets up at least the possibility of an Elite Eight with all top-ten caliber teams, which is pretty unusual.  It seems like most years there is a top-notch team with an easy path to the Final Four, but not this year, although I do like the chances of Amherst (despite playing on the road), Whitworth, Augustana, and Midd to make the Elite Eight. 

I agree that EMU got the shaft.  An elite eight team, with everyone back, who puts up a fairly guady record in a top-four conference, without any really bad losses, they should be in for sure. 

I agree about EMU, but (despite the howls of anguish all around the boards) note that every single thing you mentioned (excepts arguably the gaudy record) applies equally to IWU. ;)

BTW, I also agree that this is the best balance of brackets I can ever recall. 

89Pirate

So, now that they are out...am I reading the bracket right in that the commitee is rewarding Whitworth with what on paper looks like a slightly easier road to Salem rather than let them host round 3/4? Makes $$$ sense, but still does not seem fair...but I am biased.

Is there ANY way depending on who loses in rounds 1/2 that they could host???

ziggy

Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 28, 2011, 02:54:47 PM
I think that the rankings in the South do not do the justice to how close the South teams were.

Unranked in Regional Rankings #4, McMurry jumped up to #3 with 3 wins this week, including only 1 win over a regionally ranked team.

Look at the rankings as a "peloton" instead of an ordinal system, and you can see how tightly this group of teams were bunched!

If that is the case, EMU better hurry up and request the NCAA checks the B sample.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)


The Cabrini pod is (sadly) the only one close enough to me to try and get to this weekend.  If things turn out the way I expect, this will be my only shot to get to tournament games this year.

Do we know when times and ticket info is out or where to find it?
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David Collinge

Quote from: 89Pirate on February 28, 2011, 02:57:29 PM
So, now that they are out...am I reading the bracket right in that the commitee is rewarding Whitworth with what on paper looks like a slightly easier road to Salem rather than let them host round 3/4? Makes $$$ sense, but still does not seem fair...but I am biased.

Is there ANY way depending on who loses in rounds 1/2 that they could host???

It depends on how mercenary you think the NCAA is.  I'm pretty sure that everyone in the Wooster pod is within 500 miles of everyone in the Marietta pod, so there will be a site available with two or fewer flights.  Would the NCAA put a sectional at Centre or Bethany, just to avoid flying one team to Spokane?  Sources hazy, ask again later.

As I pointed out on another board, every team in the Marietta, Wooster, and Cabrini pods is within 500 miles of Wooster.  So if Wooster advances to the third round, they seem a good bet to host the sectional.

nwhoops1903

Quote from: ScotsFan on February 28, 2011, 12:48:59 PM
Quote from: nwhoops1903 on February 28, 2011, 12:45:47 PM
I also don't think that Randy Mac needs nor deserves a 1st round bye. 

Agreed and agreed.
Well ScotsFan, methinks our paths shall cross.  Will this be the last of our agreeing?   ;)
Glad to see RMC not only NOT get a bye pod but a trip to St. Mary's.  Looks like the ODAC needs Guilford around to get more respect.  Just saying....
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Just Bill

Quote from: ronk on February 28, 2011, 02:48:03 PM
Who decides the time of the games on Friday, who plays at which time, and when do they publicize that?

Home team makes final decision, although NCAA recommends game times as 6 and 8 on Friday and 7 on Saturday.  The home team would have to have some really good reason to move them around.  The home team has to play the second game of the Friday doubleheader.
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Quote from: ziggy on February 28, 2011, 02:51:17 PM
Pat, when do you expect to have the sit down with Obama in which he fills out his bracket? I'm really looking forward to that.

If Oxy isn't in, does that mean we have to do the women's bracket?

The NCAA makes the final decision for men's basketball, Bill. The school can request a change but the NCAA must approve it. More or less what you're saying but the NCAA makes the final call.
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Quote from: Just Bill on February 28, 2011, 03:54:56 PM
Quote from: ronk on February 28, 2011, 02:48:03 PM
Who decides the time of the games on Friday, who plays at which time, and when do they publicize that?

Home team makes final decision, although NCAA recommends game times as 6 and 8 on Friday and 7 on Saturday.  The home team would have to have some really good reason to move them around.  The home team has to play the second game of the Friday doubleheader.


Is it mandatory for home teams to play second or is it just something the NCAA recommends?? 

nwhoops1903

Quote from: 7express on February 28, 2011, 04:35:53 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on February 28, 2011, 03:54:56 PM
Quote from: ronk on February 28, 2011, 02:48:03 PM
Who decides the time of the games on Friday, who plays at which time, and when do they publicize that?

Home team makes final decision, although NCAA recommends game times as 6 and 8 on Friday and 7 on Saturday.  The home team would have to have some really good reason to move them around.  The home team has to play the second game of the Friday doubleheader.


Is it mandatory for home teams to play second or is it just something the NCAA recommends?? 
What do you think creates a bigger gate?  THAT ONE!!
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Ralph Turner

Quote from: nwhoops1903 on February 28, 2011, 01:09:04 PM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on February 28, 2011, 01:06:49 PM

I wonder if they spent more time writing the script than they did actually planning the bracket?
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The script is left over from the previous year's broadcast.  They just plug in the new names and the "canned" SID promos for a few teams who sent them, and were selected.  :)

It sounds the same every year.

Just Bill

Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 28, 2011, 03:59:24 PM
Quote from: ziggy on February 28, 2011, 02:51:17 PM
Pat, when do you expect to have the sit down with Obama in which he fills out his bracket? I'm really looking forward to that.

If Oxy isn't in, does that mean we have to do the women's bracket?

The NCAA makes the final decision for men's basketball, Bill. The school can request a change but the NCAA must approve it. More or less what you're saying but the NCAA makes the final call.

Noted. I haven't looked at the handbook in a while, but I'm pretty certain the host school is required to play the second game.
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