greyshirting

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Yeah, you got the OCD.  I just find it really rough sometimes when these boards just cycle through the same issues.  I mean if someone takes the time to read the discussion and has some new point to raise, that's one thing, but when someone brings up the same point that has previously been discussed into the ground, it gets on my nerves a little.  We all took the time to discuss things earlier, but new posters won't take the time to inform themselves of the discussion.  It's just a lack of respect to me.  Well worth some scrolling text in my opinion.

[redswarm81]

Yeah, you got the OCD. I just find it really rough sometimes when . . . someone brings up the same point that has previously been discussed into the ground, it gets on my nerves a little. . . . a lack of respect to me.

I scrolled and enjoyed the prior posts, I didn't interpret anything posted lately as disrespectful.  I interpreted it more as the fascinating process of people being determined to convince themselves that an issue exists despite a lack of evidence--kinda like UFOs.   

[Mr. Ypsi]

redswarm,

The issue (whether real or only perceived) is that the cost of MOST private schools largely prohibits redshirting/greyshirting, while the lower cost of state schools allows it.

For years on the board it has been argued that (for example) the WIAC has an unfair advantage due to this cost differential.  I understand this argument, though I only tepidly buy into it.  But it IS certainly true that (unless you have more money than I do, and to use two examples who have been prominent in bball lately) a fifth year at Stevens Point is certainly more affordable than a fifth year at Illinois Wesleyan.  It would therefore follow that 'greyshirting' at UWSP would be a more viable option than at IWU.

I am not certain that it is a SERIOUS problem, but there is the concern.

[JeffRookie2]

What exactly was the impetus for getting rid of the redshirt?

[TheeBuffaloSabres]

i used to wear grey shirts when i played.... back in the day..... im in favor

[sumfun]

I've seen it, not so sure it's a good thing.  Saw two situations where new coach comes in and doesn't want to have the same size roster as previous coach, so instead of cutting kids....greyshirt.  Kids who were recruited and turned down other good offers can get burned.  Guess that's why to tell kids over and over, make sure you like the school, because nothing is guaranteed in the athletic world!!!

[Bob Maxwell]

Guess that's why to tell kids over and over, make sure you like the school, because nothing is guaranteed in the athletic world!!!

Good advice for anyone who has contact with student athletes during recuriting...

[musupporter]

What is a "Grey-Shirt"?
Athletic "Grey-Shirting" is a term used to describe people who are non-participants and enroll part-time to post-pone their 5-year clock.  Grey-shirts are most typically used by people who feel that they are going to require more than 2 years of community college or remedial work to be eligible.  A student-athlete no longer has the opportunity to grey-shirt after they enroll full-time at an institution because then their clock will have started.

[Just Bill]

What is a "Grey-Shirt"?
Athletic "Grey-Shirting" is a term used to describe people who are non-participants and enroll part-time to post-pone their 5-year clock.  Grey-shirts are most typically used by people who feel that they are going to require more than 2 years of community college or remedial work to be eligible.  A student-athlete no longer has the opportunity to grey-shirt after they enroll full-time at an institution because then their clock will have started.

You are correct, but Division III has adapted the term grayshirting to one of their own practices, and that's probably more germain here.

In Division III terms, a grayshirt is a player who practices with the team until the date of the first game and then is "cut".  They have no more contact with the team for the remainder of that season. The idea being that they can work out on their own for a year, get bigger and stronger and then tryout for the team the following year, and still have four years of eligibility remaining. It's a legal method of delaying a student's eligibility while they attempt to develop.