FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[footballfan413]

Funny Zebrowski doesn't get the job because of stability. I'd send him packing and get someone who WANTS to be there.

http://www.journalreview.com/articles/2008/02/01/sports/bambrey.txt

You are tough on these guys, JF.  Coaching is a transient profession by its very nature especially if a coach is either very successful or not so successful. The Warhawks are spoiled with the coaching stability that the progam has enjoyed all of these decades.  With the resent success the last 3 years, the environment isn't as condusive to that any more since the staff all fall into that very successful category, IMHO.  Coach Zebrowski came to the OC job from a HC job as a result of that success and to help build his resume I would guess, and it seems inevitable to me that he will seek a HC job again.  Doesn't mean that he will give the Hawks anything less than 150% since these opportunities didn't work out for him this year.  He never implied anything when he took this job about it being his final coaching job.  He is one of the new components that contributed to the boys all wearing gold rings this year instead of silver and I will support his efforts to again hold a HC job some day. In fact, I fully expected that his stay at Whitewater would be a short one when he was hired.  Just my .20 cents!

[KitchenSink]

Oh, and the front page says Wabash didn't hire Zebrowsky.  They grabbed the guy from Iowa.

Maybe coach Z will interview in Iowa now.

Why so bitter, sink? Better for the Warhawks to have him back, I would think. I doubt he would go after the Coe HC position and possibly make it a triple crown losing effort in one off season - probably a step down, as well.  He's better off putting this one behind him, recruit and help UWW to another successful season and go after something next off season, IMO.

I didn't mean to sound bitter.

I'm just of the belief that Z wants to be a head coach again.  And his star will not be burning brighter than right now.  So I've resigned myself to the fact the the Warhawks will probably have a different OC this year.

Can't really blame coach Z.  Ambition is what makes people work harder and strive.

If he stays, then the offense should be in pretty good shape.  Lots of holes to fill, but I think they can pull it together (his return would probably pull it together a little quicker).  And that's what we're all hoping for the Hawks.

[janesvilleflash]

One year and out? He didn't know the zone offense, and they made Dinkle the "run game coordinator", Just what did Z do that was so special? He had the MVP of division 3 running the ball, without input from him, and now he thinks he should land a high profile job because of one year? I think he just must not like it at WW and wants to move on. I would grant his wish. He should have spent the time he wasted applying for jobs recruiting.

[retagent]

BoBo. You truly are the voice of reason here. I will let all of you in on a little secret. It's winter, not much to talk about, and I was just thinking how much doo doo I could stir up on a cold day with not much going on. All meant in fun, but sometimes it's too easy. And I jump at bait just like so many of us do. So watch for a grain of salt in most everything I offer up.

[Goo 62]

Lets all settle down and think about what we are saying.  You cant sit here and say that Zibrowski wasnt a huge part of what happened this year.  He did what no other OC has done at UWW, with who it doesnt matter. 
When your a coach you always look to move up and that is what Zibrowski it doing.  OC at UWW was a step up than lakeland and in many ways HC at Wabash is a step up.  He didnt get it so lets all thank god that he is coming back because he is a good OC.

[dawarhawksrock]

I have said this since the Hawks won the stagg bowl. Because of the success they had this year, a couple of their full time coaches should be hired away as head coaches,coordinators,or even to the NFL. As this is what happens when you have success. If this does not happn it must be something that the hiring comittee see's in thier personality that they do not like. Which is unfortunate.
Once again the real test will be this next year when they have true pressure on them,and do not have all of the weapons which they have had this past year.
True teams reload  they don't rebuild.

[BoBo]

Funny Zebrowski doesn't get the job because of stability. I'd send him packing and get someone who WANTS to be there.

http://www.journalreview.com/articles/2008/02/01/sports/bambrey.txt

You are tough on these guys, JF.  Coaching is a transient profession by its very nature especially if a coach is either very successful or not so successful. The Warhawks are spoiled with the coaching stability that the progam has enjoyed all of these decades.  With the resent success the last 3 years, the environment isn't as condusive to that any more since the staff all fall into that very successful category, IMHO.  Coach Zebrowski came to the OC job from a HC job as a result of that success and to help build his resume I would guess, and it seems inevitable to me that he will seek a HC job again.  Doesn't mean that he will give the Hawks anything less than 150% since these opportunities didn't work out for him this year.  He never implied anything when he took this job about it being his final coaching job.  He is one of the new components that contributed to the boys all wearing gold rings this year instead of silver and I will support his efforts to again hold a HC job some day. In fact, I fully expected that his stay at Whitewater would be a short one when he was hired.  Just my .20 cents!

Totally agree with ya, 413. Some guys have the DNA to be a sergeant and others to be a General. Some like to keep well established roots or put down new ones, while others are nomads. I think to be a successful HC (or leader in any profession), you have to have a good blend of both types in supporting roles around you. 

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

I have said this since the Hawks won the stagg bowl. Because of the success they had this year, a couple of their full time coaches should be hired away as head coaches,coordinators,or even to the NFL. As this is what happens when you have success. If this does not happn it must be something that the hiring comittee see's in thier personality that they do not like. Which is unfortunate.
Once again the real test will be this next year when they have true pressure on them,and do not have all of the weapons which they have had this past year.
True teams reload  they don't rebuild.

One Stagg Bowl win and off to the NFL?  What flavor of Kool Aid you drinking?

[dawarhawksrock]

Seeing that one of the coaches has done two minority internships it is possible. This is what I am basing that off of as many coaches who do minority internships and do a good job end up getting a full time job in the NFL. So it is piossible.

[BoBo]

dawarhawksrock, I would be curious to learn how many of these "minor" internships have resulted in a full time NFL coaching position?  Can you name any?

[KitchenSink]

Did Jagodzinski do any coaching at UWW?

[janesvilleflash]

Yeah, he was RB coach the year after he finished playing, just for 1 year. (1985)

[BoBo]

Jagodzinski didn't get to where he is today (former NFL assistant, BC HC) for coaching that one year at UWW.  He got it by coaching many different places at various divisions and levels, building a strong resume with each short stint.  Sort of had an unstable coaching career, you could say...a couple years here, a couple years there!!  Rather successfully, I might add.  Brings us back to that other discussion. 

...and I imagine he never did an NFL internship, either, because at that time there probably weren't any...plus if I'm not mistaken, the internships dawarhawksrock brought up (and I questioned) are designed for minority coaches.  I believe being Polish wouldn't quality him for that. 

[footballfan413]

The underdog takes down what is considered by many to be one of the best teams ever with an outstanding defensive showing shutting down a high powered offense for the Championship!  Sounds eerily familiar!      It is truly the year of the underdog!  Congrats to Little Manning and the Giants! What a great Superbowl to watch!

[dawarhawksrock]

Bobo-Your right it's minority internships, not minor internships. I do not have the stats of how many of them that turn into jobs in the NFL. However I know of two coaches one who coaches with the Raiders and one who worked with the Browns for threee years who served internships.