FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[BoBo]

413, voice - all outstanding points.  I think Rindahl and also Anthony White were a couple of the unsung hero's on that defense last year. Some of those early first quarter plays they made in the Stagg Bowl really kind of set the tone for the remainder of the game. Everytime time I replay the game, it's more impressive than the time before.  I think it told Mount that this was a different kind of defense than the previous years. In many respects, they were over-shadowed during the season by Raebel and Ogrizovich.  But, in the Stagg, showed that they are definately ready to take over the defense. And just think, if Josh Jackson doesn't get a season-ending injury, Rindahl is a back-up.  Tells you where the Warhawks are depth-wise.  With Dufane (6'4 300) Ankley (6'4 285),  Reiser (6'3 275), and Baldwin (6'3 247) all with substantial playing time last year and returning, the D-line looks solid.  White is on the small size, but with his speed and strength, he'll blow by anybody the offense lines up across from him.  In the backfield, does Troney Shumpert finally get regular duty? He's had a lot of PT and done a pretty good job on D as a nickle back and on special teams.  I expect big things out of him in '08, too.

ww/linfield vs. ww/lax in 07...which win is better?

Wow, tough to pick a better win with those two games.  Beating Linfield gets you in the Stagg (well after a pummeling of Wesley)...lose to LaX, win the rest, they still might get to the Stagg.  I would have to go with the Linfield game.

[BoBo]

I'm bustin, Jerry, I'm bustin.

[UniqueInsight38]

When I have been reading the board for the last six months, it seems to be the uw-whitewater football board.  Yes I give them props for winning the Big One---They deserved it.  I may get heat for what I am about to say but it is the truth.  As a former player and now a volunteer coach for a team in the conference, I can honestly say that winning in this conference comes down to funding!!!!!! ---Both private (donations) and the university working directly with the athletic department.  I wish everyone who enjoyed the WIAC football conference could see the differences in funding between all the schools.  I can almost guarentee that the win-loss records directly reflect the funding. 

Funding is the main way to have coaches and most of all recruiters!   Without enough staffing you can't effectively recruit which causes a decrease in talent levels due to the competition out there for good college athletes.  I challenge all former players and fans of those losing teams to contact their chancellors and Athletic Directors and let them know about your disgust with the lack of funding.  It makes me very irritated to see my former team be on  the bottom year in and year out due to the fact that know one is willing to take control and make changes at our university.

I apologize for complaining but for even the educated WIAC football fan this is more than likely an unknown factor.  Up until around 2000 this wasn't the case but now $$$$$$$$$$ makes all the difference.

[footballfan413]

413, voice - all outstanding points.  I think Rindahl and also Anthony White were a couple of the unsung hero's on that defense last year. Some of those early first quarter plays they made in the Stagg Bowl really kind of set the tone for the remainder of the game. Everytime time I replay the game, it's more impressive than the time before.  I think it told Mount that this was a different kind of defense than the previous years. In many respects, they were over-shadowed during the season by Raebel and Ogrizovich.  But, in the Stagg, showed that they are definately ready to take over the defense. And just think, if Josh Jackson doesn't get a season-ending injury, Rindahl is a back-up.  Tells you where the Warhawks are depth-wise.  With Dufane (6'4 300) Ankley (6'4 285),  Reiser (6'3 275), and Baldwin (6'3 247) all with substantial playing time last year and returning, the D-line looks solid.  White is on the small size, but with his speed and strength, he'll blow by anybody the offense lines up across from him.  In the backfield, does Troney Shumpert finally get regular duty? He's had a lot of PT and done a pretty good job on D as a nickle back and on special teams.  I expect big things out of him in '08, too.

I must take exception to one thing you said, BoBo.  Rindahl will never be a back-up on this team.  I would move him to strong side (he backed up Raebel in 06 if I am remembering right,) or middle depending on my talent pool and start Jackson as the WLB. 

ww/linfield vs. ww/lax in 07...which win is better?

Hard call.  As a spectator of both I guess I lean toward Linfield.  It was 60 minutes of continuous emotional ups and downs and some amazing plays made by both sides.  But in terms of which win did more for the team, I would have to go with Lax.  All the old and new parts became one team that day.  The best comeback I have ever seen.

[retagent]

I'm not all that surprised at the sanity brought by 413, but BoBo - I  even had to +k you for some reasoned analysis over the past two pages. Kudos - and I'm being serious here lest anyone doubt that. You might be wrong, but you could also be right, and at least there is some meat to chew on..

[badgerwarhawk]

ww/linfield vs. ww/lax in 07...which win is better?

Tough call as both wins were sweet and both essential in our march to Salem.  Not to take anything at all away from Linfield.  It was probably the most exciting game we've played in all three post season runs.   But there is always something extra special in beating LaCrosse.  The rivalry is so intense and feelings run so deep that if we could only win one game in a year that game is the one many of us would chose. 

While the WARHAWKS have set the current standard that the other WIAC teams are striving to reach one can't deny that it was LaCrosse that set the original one.  You just can't overlook that imo.  Beating LaCrosse is beating LaCrosse which may not make sense unless you're a WARHAWK GUY.

That said I'd take beating Linfield any day of the week as well. 

[Warhawk 96]

When I have been reading the board for the last six months, it seems to be the uw-whitewater football board.  Yes I give them props for winning the Big One---They deserved it.  I may get heat for what I am about to say but it is the truth.  As a former player and now a volunteer coach for a team in the conference, I can honestly say that winning in this conference comes down to funding!!!!!! ---Both private (donations) and the university working directly with the athletic department.  I wish everyone who enjoyed the WIAC football conference could see the differences in funding between all the schools.  I can almost guarentee that the win-loss records directly reflect the funding. 

Funding is the main way to have coaches and most of all recruiters!   Without enough staffing you can't effectively recruit which causes a decrease in talent levels due to the competition out there for good college athletes.  I challenge all former players and fans of those losing teams to contact their chancellors and Athletic Directors and let them know about your disgust with the lack of funding.  It makes me very irritated to see my former team be on  the bottom year in and year out due to the fact that know one is willing to take control and make changes at our university.

I apologize for complaining but for even the educated WIAC football fan this is more than likely an unknown factor.  Up until around 2000 this wasn't the case but now $$$$$$$$$$ makes all the difference.

Well, if that's the case then get your finances correct and vote in a new administration. One of the big overlooked qualities of Brez was that he was ALWAYS either getting money for the team or finding ways to get money. We get a lot of flack for the size of our student body but in the end it generates a lot of revenue and more importantly a lot more alumni. That's a lot more opportunities to recieve funding both in the present with tuition and in the future through alumni contributions. I would say that money isn't everything though. Case in point: Oshkosh. Nice city, it's obvious that there is a lot of money floating through that place, big student body, what's missing? Money isn't everything but maybe not having ANY can be. With that I'm at 200, karma party on me

[footballfan413]

Congrats on the new karma power, 96!   I know you will use it wisely.     Can't karma you back until the 24 hour moratorium is up.  Nicely said about the financing.  I wasn't going to touch that post with a 10 foot pole but since you have done such a nice job I will piggy back on it.  Get yourself a great AD.  Dr. Plinsky deserves serious props for what he has done for UWW athletics across the board.  Word on the street is that he has done an amazing job chasing the money for the university and nothing opens wallets faster than successful athletic programs and someone who will not take no for an answer!   

[badgerwarhawk]

We have to give some credit to our chancellors as well.  Not that we didn't have supportive chancellors before but since the arrival of Jack Miller followed by Martha Saunders and now Richard Telfor we've had chancellor's who have wholeheartedly and vigorously supported our athletic department.  They've taken administrative support to another level.  Regardless of the sport it hasn't been unusual to spot the chancellor in attendance whenever their schedule allows.  They don't just come, watch and pay lip service either.  These people like sports and recognize it's value in the overall educational experience of students and in recruiting both athlete and nonathlete students to the university. 

[stealth]

All that being said about $$$, AD's and Chancellors, question to the masses, in the overall scheme of things was the Football Chamionship more important to the university or the super high Presidents Cup ranking ? Both have major recruiting benefits but in sustaining long term support what in all of your opinions ranks higher ?
BoBo my day has been made seeing the gang back in action. Shipment of anchovies in route to celebrate thier new found glory.

[BoBo]

BoBo my day has been made seeing the gang back in action. Shipment of anchovies in route to celebrate thier new found glory.

The boys and I say AMEN to that brother!!  We'll enjoy the feast.  + k when I can again.

[BoBo]

I must take exception to one thing you said, BoBo.  Rindahl will never be a back-up on this team.

413, to clarify, the point I was trying to illustrate in my comment is that Rindahl started out the 2007 season as a back-up to Jackson. He was seeing action in spot duty early in the season.  Had Jackson not been injuried, how much PT would Rindahl have gotten?  I don't know, but, Jackson didn't play badly, either.  It would have created one of those "pleasant" kind of problems for the coaching staff to deal with.  Rindahl showed a knack for being around the ball and making impact plays time and time again.  It was a no-brainer to keep him on the field after that. No way intended to suggest that Rindahl should take a back-up position this year.  In fact, I think if he plays at the level he did in front of everybody in the Stagg Bowl, and there's no reason why he won't, he has the same game changing, intimidator mentality that we saw out of Raebel.  He takes over that role rather nicely, don't you think?  With all the nay-sayers questioning the WW cupboard, he is just one example of a guy who was part of that cupboard at one time, only to prove he belongs on the dining table for the main course and not just for dessert after a game is decided!  If Jackson returns healthy, I think the LB position is in pretty good condition, too.   

[footballfan413]

I must take exception to one thing you said, BoBo.  Rindahl will never be a back-up on this team.

413, to clarify, the point I was trying to illustrate in my comment is that Rindahl started out the 2007 season as a back-up to Jackson. He was seeing action in spot duty early in the season.  Had Jackson not been injuried, how much PT would Rindahl have gotten?  I don't know, but, Jackson didn't play badly, either.  It would have created one of those "pleasant" kind of problems for the coaching staff to deal with.  Rindahl showed a knack for being around the ball and making impact plays time and time again.  It was a no-brainer to keep him on the field after that. No way intended to suggest that Rindahl should take a back-up position this year.  In fact, I think if he plays at the level he did in front of everybody in the Stagg Bowl, and there's no reason why he won't, he has the same game changing, intimidator mentality that we saw out of Raebel.  He takes over that role rather nicely, don't you think?  With all the nay-sayers questioning the WW cupboard, he is just one example of a guy who was part of that cupboard at one time, only to prove he belongs on the dining table for the main course and not just for dessert after a game is decided!  If Jackson returns healthy, I think the LB position is in pretty good condition, too.   

Thanks for the clarification, BoB.  I agree with everything you said about Rindahl.  Will be a force at LB this year for the Hawks.  Tough decision last year chosing who would replace Widuch at WLB between the two of them because both are very good for different reasons and I believe because of that situation, a 3/4 defensive package was developed at the beginning of 07.  We would have seen much more of it if not for Jackson's season ending injury.

[Sakman 1111]

Actually the linebacker positions this season are very strong again in my opinion......Rindahl and Jackson should be all-conference with quite a few quality backups getting their chance just like Rindahl did last year.....my pick is Max Ford from Illinos to make a large impact.....

[Sakman 1111]

Sorry, Max Ford from Illinois.....Don't want Old Indian talking about my spelling......