FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[badgerwarhawk]

I can't understand why at least one poll doesn't rank Wesley ahead of Mount Union.  It's befuddling. 

KABOOM, KABOOM, KABOOM

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Not trying to beat the Purple Raider drum but they do have Nate Kmic and Greg Micheli coming back (Stagg Bowl MVPs from 2005 and 2006).  Hard to ignore a 3 year QB and a RB who will challenge for the all time TD Record and the DIII rushing career record and a team that won 2/3 Stagg Bowls with that kind of Senior leadership coming back.

If Jones and Beaver were coming back this year I could see UWW ranked #1 since y'all won last year.  Also Wesley hasn't made it past UWW or MHB, let alone make it to a Stagg Bowl, so why should they be ranked above MTU?

MTU does have some holes to fill on the O line, WR corps and Defense, but it just seems like they are able to bring in the next class who steps up when it is their turn.

The history also probably comes into play when you have voters who don't know all the teams.  That is why the D3Football.com rankings are the only ones that really count in my book.

[RacineWarhawk91]

The history also probably comes into play when you have voters who don't know all the teams.  That is why the D3Football.com rankings are the only ones that really count in my book.

This is basically my point.  I'm saying that voters who don't know anything about any of the teams put out polls that are essentially misinformed.  I don't think its a major injustice to have MUC ranked over UWW because they are a great program.  However, I find it ridiculous to rank Wesley over UWW.  I think the comment about Wesley over MUC was supposed to be a joke.  All in all, I agree 100% with kirasdad that the d3fb.com rankings are the only ones that really matter.

[Pat Coleman]

The history also probably comes into play when you have voters who don't know all the teams.  That is why the D3Football.com rankings are the only ones that really count in my book.

This is basically my point.  I'm saying that voters who don't know anything about any of the teams put out polls that are essentially misinformed. 

The people who put out the USA Today/Sports Weekly poll are always well informed. Information is not an issue there, it's a difference of opinion between the unbiased voter (in this case, me) and biased fan.

If Jones or Beaver were coming back this year I could see UWW ranked #1 since y'all won last year.  Also Wesley hasn't made it past UWW or MHB, let alone make it to a Stagg Bowl, so why should they be ranked above MTU?

Fixed.

And Wesley has made it past UMHB. Not last year but it has in previous years.

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

I don't know if I would rank UWW over MTU if only Danny Jones were coming back.  I probably would if Mr. Beaver was coming back.

[Pat Coleman]

Maybe, but it's one less variable.

Jones looked bad against Mount Union (what QB didn't?) but he was still pretty darn good.

[BoBo]

Maybe, but it's one less variable.

Jones looked bad against Mount Union (what QB didn't?) but he was still pretty darn good.

Statistically, he didn't have the greatest of games, but as George Gallup once said, "not everything that can be counted counts; and not everything that counts can be counted." I think all Whitewater fans will take looking bad if the outcome remains the same!

[badgerwarhawk]

Not trying to beat the Purple Raider drum but they do have Nate Kmic and Greg Micheli coming back (Stagg Bowl MVPs from 2005 and 2006).  Hard to ignore a 3 year QB and a RB who will challenge for the all time TD Record and the DIII rushing career record and a team that won 2/3 Stagg Bowls with that kind of Senior leadership coming back.

If Jones and Beaver were coming back this year I could see UWW ranked #1 since y'all won last year.  Also Wesley hasn't made it past UWW or MHB, let alone make it to a Stagg Bowl, so why should they be ranked above MTU?

MTU does have some holes to fill on the O line, WR corps and Defense, but it just seems like they are able to bring in the next class who steps up when it is their turn.

The history also probably comes into play when you have voters who don't know all the teams.  That is why the D3Football.com rankings are the only ones that really count in my book.

I was being sarcastic regarding none of the polls rating Wesley KABOOM #1.  I've got no problem with MU being #1.  In fact if I were ranking teams I would rank MU #1.  With Kimic and the QB I'm not going to try and spell his name. and the fact they never seem to rebuilt, only reload you almost have to.  But I've seen what was suppose to have been some pretty good Wesley KABOOM teams play and all of them would have been hard pressed to play .500 in our league.   I just don't get the pollsters fascination with them.  It reminds of the days when Tampa Bay was picked to go to Super Bowl for 3-4 years in a row but never came close.   

I don't have any problem with us not being ranked #1.  There are a lot of questions about this year's team and we've got our hands full with our league schedule.  I'm not sure but I doubt many WIAC programs have gone undefeated in league play four years in a row.   Maybe LaX but it wouldn't surprise me if the list started and ended there.

But I just don't get Wesley KABOOM.

[Pat Coleman]

But I've seen what was suppose to have been some pretty good Wesley KABOOM teams play and all of them would have been hard pressed to play .500 in our league.   I just don't get the pollsters fascination with them.  It reminds of the days when Tampa Bay was picked to go to Super Bowl for 3-4 years in a row but never came close.   

I don't have any problem with us not being ranked #1.  There are a lot of questions about this year's team and we've got our hands full with our league schedule.  I'm not sure but I doubt many WIAC programs have gone undefeated in league play four years in a row.   Maybe LaX but it wouldn't surprise me if the list started and ended there.

But I just don't get Wesley KABOOM.

Clearly. But then again, some people have seen Wesley play other teams besides UW-Whitewater. Didn't Wesley beat UMHB, a team UWW fans respect, two years in a row in the playoffs, including once on the road? I'm not sure what relevance a 2006 result has on a 2008 preseason ranking.

[janesvilleflash]

Wesley, Wesley, Wesley. Any place in the top 50 is too high for most of us on this board. The only people who benefited from them coming to WW is the bar owners, as most of us were sitting there for the second half of those games as they were too pathetic to watch. We just don't like them.

Rankings, polls? My concern is ranking the WIAC. This is going to be a tough year, and I sure don't see anyone going undefeated.

[badgerwarhawk]

b]a 2006 result[/b] has on a 2008 preseason ranking.

First impressions are lasting impressions. 

[Warhawk 96]

I really wish that people will realize that UWW is a team and not a couple of players.

[badgerwarhawk]

In some unfortunate news ex-WARHAWK Pete Schmidt has been released by the Redskin.   They signed a draft pick and he was released to make room.

Tough luck, Pete.  Better luck in the future whatever it is you do.   Thanks for everything you did for us. 

[Pat Coleman]

Sometime about Week 14 or 15 we'll get a chance to find out how true that assertion is. I look forward to it.

[Pat Coleman]

In some unfortunate news ex-WARHAWK Pete Schmidt has been released by the Redskin.   They signed a draft pick and he was released to make room.

Damn, right before camp too.

I talked to him this spring and know he's in this for the long haul, so hopefully he gets into someone else's camp.