FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Pat Coleman]

It's possible if you have enough kids to have two JV teams.

[Blutarsky]

MUC runs that many JV games because:

--they are allowed through the League
--the majority of games are close-proximity due to the number of Div. II/III schools in Ohio
--having over 200 on the roster (and typically 130+ frosh.) keeps them involved and looking forward to competition
--it's a great opportunity for the coaches to see players in actual game situations vs. practice

Obviously, having the opportunity to schedule that many games is a definite advantage for Mount Union.  However, the majority of the schools in the OAC will run a similar JV schedule.  It is always interesting when MUC plays Div.II Ashland in JV...the last few years the non-scholarship kids have come out on top!

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Ball is one guy we're going to have to control this weekend.  He can cause a lot of problems.

Ball Control is key this weekend. 

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

So Mount Union plays a 12-game JV schedule? What's up with that?  Redshirting is bad for competitive and economic reasons, but this sort of schedule is OK in order to insure the continuation of a dynasty (and keeping the $30,000+/head on hand to help subsidize it)?  Time for Dr. Karner to write a proposal for the private school-dominated NCAA DIII to reject.

Pat is right, all players don't play all JV games.  They have split squads that play different games each week.

[badgerwarhawk]

Ball is one guy we're going to have to control this weekend.  He can cause a lot of problems.

Ball Control is key this weekend. 

LOL, good one Kiras.  I hadn't thought of it in quite that way.

[footballfan413]

MUC runs that many JV games because:

--they are allowed through the League
--the majority of games are close-proximity due to the number of Div. II/III schools in Ohio
--having over 200 on the roster (and typically 130+ frosh.) keeps them involved and looking forward to competition
--it's a great opportunity for the coaches to see players in actual game situations vs. practice

Obviously, having the opportunity to schedule that many games is a definite advantage for Mount Union.  However, the majority of the schools in the OAC will run a similar JV schedule.  It is always interesting when MUC plays Div.II Ashland in JV...the last few years the non-scholarship kids have come out on top!

Very interesting and helps to explain their constant ability to reload every season.  It maybe somewhat even within the conference but what about outside?  Considering  that the WIAC mandates a 100 man roster limit, it makes for a unlevel playing field, IMHO. I'd take twice the recruited players to develop over our big, bad, public school, student enrollment advantage any day.  

[BDB]

Any WW posters coming up for the game Saturday?

[retagent]

To all you WIAC/UWW whiners. Every school/program has unique advantages and/or disadvantages. As state schools, the tuition that students face is small in comparison with what students who want to attend an MIAC school, for example, must put up. The admission standards are also less stringent. If you think you are at such a disadvantage, put on our shoes for a while. There are those who think that the WIAC has too many advantages that they should not be in D III. The grass always looks greener on the other side of the fence. I've heard that somewhere.

BoBo, since I lived in West Long Branch, NJ many moons ago, I too am aware of that Monmouth College. But, since I am Minnesota born and bred (bread), I knew of the Illinois Monmouth first.

[janesvilleflash]

Mrs. Flash and I are going somewhere Sat. and staying over night. The odds of me talking her into going to Menominee to watch a football game lay somewhere between slim and piss poor.

[BDB]

Mrs. Flash and I are going somewhere Sat. and staying over night. The odds of me talking her into going to Menominee to watch a football game lay somewhere between slim and piss poor.

So, you're saying there's a chance! 

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

MUC runs that many JV games because:

--they are allowed through the League
--the majority of games are close-proximity due to the number of Div. II/III schools in Ohio
--having over 200 on the roster (and typically 130+ frosh.) keeps them involved and looking forward to competition
--it's a great opportunity for the coaches to see players in actual game situations vs. practice

Obviously, having the opportunity to schedule that many games is a definite advantage for Mount Union.  However, the majority of the schools in the OAC will run a similar JV schedule.  It is always interesting when MUC plays Div.II Ashland in JV...the last few years the non-scholarship kids have come out on top!

Very interesting and helps to explain their constant ability to reload every season.  It maybe somewhat even within the conference but what about outside?  Considering  that the WIAC mandates a 100 man roster limit, it makes for a unlevel playing field, IMHO. I'd take twice the recruited players to develop over our big, bad, public school, student enrollment advantage any day.  

Doesn't UWW just "Cut" players that aren't going to contribute immediately, to allow them to keep their eligibility and thus play a year or two longer than the normal 4-5 year academic program. 

[Sakman 1111]

Retagent .......Let's not start the private/public debate again and the whining about the big bad publics. 3 sons who played varsity sports in college and the $$$$ they were offered from private schools for grants and such made it markedly less expensive to attend the allegedly more expensive private school in each case. My one son who played at UWW didn't get a dollar but was offered much better financial packages from private schools....There are benefits for each side I guess when you really look at it.....

[Pat Coleman]

Student loans ... the gift that keeps on giving.

[footballfan413]

To all you WIAC/UWW whiners. Every school/program has unique advantages and/or disadvantages. As state schools, the tuition that students face is small in comparison with what students who want to attend an MIAC school, for example, must put up. The admission standards are also less stringent. If you think you are at such a disadvantage, put on our shoes for a while. There are those who think that the WIAC has too many advantages that they should not be in D III. The grass always looks greener on the other side of the fence. I've heard that somewhere.

BoBo, since I lived in West Long Branch, NJ many moons ago, I too am aware of that Monmouth College. But, since I am Minnesota born and bred (bread), I knew of the Illinois Monmouth first.

Ya, I figured my post would open the old debate. Didn't take long.  I give you the, "less stringent admissions standards," but would argue the cheaper tuition point.  Yes, it is but not nearly as much as private schools would like you to believe with all the, "academic money," wink-wink that goes on.  Had first hand experience with that one.  But I'm not up for the dead horse kicking and doubt if anyone else is either.  Didn't mean to whine............just making an observation about a discussion on the board regarding JV programs.  I agree with your point that, "all programs /schools have unique advantages/disadvantages."  I give the JV advantage to MUC.


There are some that think the WIAC schools should not be D-3??  Say it isn't so!   

[footballfan413]

Retagent .......Let's not start the private/public debate again and the whining about the big bad publics. 3 sons who played varsity sports in college and the $$$$ they were offered from private schools for grants and such made it markedly less expensive to attend the allegedly more expensive private school in each case. My one son who played at UWW didn't get a dollar but was offered much better financial packages from private schools....There are benefits for each side I guess when you really look at it.....

I believe that every dollar he paid was out-of-state tuition as well.