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BoBo

Official, possibly...looks like they're staying in-house - that's good for us...

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I'VE REACHED THAT AGE
WHERE MY BRAIN GOES
FROM "YOU PROBABLY
SHOULDN'T SAY THAT," TO
"WHAT THE HELL, LET'S SEE
WHAT HAPPENS."

Barber Greene

At this point in his career you can't fault Lance for applying for an attractive position when it becomes available.  Moving to a DII school with the history of GVS would be a logical and good move for his career. These positions don't come open that often. Then again, if he is sending out mass resumes then I would have to give this face,  >:(. But we don't have any indication that he is doing that.

We have two very capable coordinators on staff to continue the continuity of the program should Lance leave (assuming they don't go with him).

wildcat11

Quote from: Barber Greene on January 05, 2010, 01:53:52 PM
At this point in his career you can't fault Lance for applying for an attractive position when it becomes available.  Moving to a DII school with the history of GVS would be a logical and good move for his career. These positions don't come open that often. Then again, if he is sending out mass resumes then I would have to give this face,  >:(. But we don't have any indication that he is doing that.

We have two very capable coordinators on staff to continue the continuity of the program should Lance leave (assuming they don't go with him).

On one side I totally agree that it would be hard to blame him for wanting to move to a higher profile job if that is his desire but on the other hand it has to be a little sad that one of the now elite jobs in DIII is filled with a coach that isn't a DIII "lifer" like at Mount Union or Saint John's.

Barber Greene

Quote from: wildcat11 on January 05, 2010, 01:58:14 PM
Quote from: Barber Greene on January 05, 2010, 01:53:52 PM
At this point in his career you can't fault Lance for applying for an attractive position when it becomes available.  Moving to a DII school with the history of GVS would be a logical and good move for his career. These positions don't come open that often. Then again, if he is sending out mass resumes then I would have to give this face,  >:(. But we don't have any indication that he is doing that.

We have two very capable coordinators on staff to continue the continuity of the program should Lance leave (assuming they don't go with him).

On one side I totally agree that it would be hard to blame him for wanting to move to a higher profile job if that is his desire but on the other hand it has to be a little sad that one of the now elite jobs in DIII is filled with a coach that isn't a DIII "lifer" like at Mount Union or Saint John's.

I think being a "lifer" is the exception these days. As long as the program remains successful then a certain amount of coaching turnover could be a positive thing. E.g., departing coaches spreading the word about the program to potential players and up and coming coaches infusing some life into the program.

skunks_sidekick

I for one hope the SOB gets the frickin' job!  Then...our evil plan will all fall into place.  You will hire Zebrowski to be HC, and the fix is IN!   ;D

In all honesty, I hope he gets it because it just enhances the level of coaching/football/skill sets that are on display on any given Saturday in D-III (at the elite programs). 

02 Warhawk

Quote from: skunks_sidekick on January 05, 2010, 03:47:41 PM
I for one hope the SOB gets the frickin' job!  Then...our evil plan will all fall into place.  You will hire Zebrowski to be HC, and the fix is IN!   ;D

In all honesty, I hope he gets it because it just enhances the level of coaching/football/skill sets that are on display on any given Saturday in D-III (at the elite programs). 

yea, you already have your QB in place to take over for Donovan   ;)


warhawkbabe

I am glad that LL did not get the job at GVSU. As he will be able to continue what has been happening the last couple years, and he is know working with all of his recruits as this senior class was Berezowitz's last recruiting class. However I doubt that will matter as the Hawks are sure to continue their dominance in the WIAC for a while, I hope.
I thought it was funny that on warhawkfootball.com he said will not comment specifically on any coaching vacancy rumors or media stories. I don't think it was a rumor as he interviewed according to the newspapaers and I don;t think any newspaper would make something up about who did and did not interview.
I see no problem with him saying that he interviewed for another job at a higher level of college football.
Anyways glad to see that he is back and everything in the Warhawk nation can know return to normal.

bleedpurple

Wasn't able to get back online until now, but it appears the matter is settled. It seemed to me from the article I had read that they had decided on their in-house candidate. As for LL's intentions, I would have a REALLY hard time blaming him for looking into that job if he has aspirations to be a D1 coach at some time. It would give him a great opportunity to have National Championships at multiple levels. At the same time, this does not mean he will be willing to apply for any D2 opening that comes along. GVSU is a very unique opportunity.

I don't see LL as anxious to leave UW-W. At the same time, not even looking at the GVSU job would have been a  statement that he is likely at Whitewater to stay. Let's face it, he's operating from a position of strength. Like most of us, if an unique opportunity presents itself, he is likely to at least take a look.

I do think that Coaches Berezowitz, Perkins, and Kehres are exceptions to the rule in the coaching world. Head coaches are pretty driven people who love challenges. But channeling that driven nature into one program for an entire career can lead to some pretty special results. If LL decides to go that route, he will likely receive satisfactions and blessings that go far beyond a paycheck.

I'd also like to point out that applying for a job does not equal accepting a job. In a sense, LL was interviewing GVSU as well. I'm not saying he wouldn't have accepted the job. I'm just saying applying and interviewing isn't the same as accepting the position.

BoBo

Quote from: wildcat11 on January 05, 2010, 01:58:14 PM
Quote from: Barber Greene on January 05, 2010, 01:53:52 PM
At this point in his career you can't fault Lance for applying for an attractive position when it becomes available.  Moving to a DII school with the history of GVS would be a logical and good move for his career. These positions don't come open that often. Then again, if he is sending out mass resumes then I would have to give this face,  >:(. But we don't have any indication that he is doing that.

We have two very capable coordinators on staff to continue the continuity of the program should Lance leave (assuming they don't go with him).

On one side I totally agree that it would be hard to blame him for wanting to move to a higher profile job if that is his desire but on the other hand it has to be a little sad that one of the now elite jobs in DIII is filled with a coach that isn't a DIII "lifer" like at Mount Union or Saint John's.

wildcat11, I personally find absolutely no sadness knowing the head coach of an elite job in DIII or in any profession for that matter, isn't a "lifer" in that job they are known for. To each, his own. Had I been a "lifer" in my work, I can think of hundreds of experiences my family and I never would've had (and continue to have) that have enriched our lives so much. My daughter has had doors opened to her because of my career progression that most of her age peers can only dream about - and that's got to be worth something. Don't get me wrong, the "lifers" must have very special memories & experiences, too, but the times have changed, my friend. I doubt we're going to see any coaches outside DIII that go that old-school way. Now that BB at FSU is finished, Joe Pa is the only one left to carry on. But, that day will come, too, sad as it may be. I'll shed more tears for the lucky (or unlucky) fellow(s) having to replace the living legend(s) once they are gone ~ can anyboy say Phil Bengtson?  :'(

In this day and age, if you are having success doing what you do, whether it be a football coach or scientific researcher, you don't have to go out and seek something new, people will approach you. Not saying that happened in this situation, but it does happen more than not. As selfish as it sounds, money and prestige have a way of changing our ideas and thoughts. I can't fault Leipold one iota for doing what he did ~ glad he's still here today ~ but there will be other bumps in the road tomorrow and we'll live with it when it does. Let's hope the current recruiting trail leads to many interesting discoveries!!  ;)
I'VE REACHED THAT AGE
WHERE MY BRAIN GOES
FROM "YOU PROBABLY
SHOULDN'T SAY THAT," TO
"WHAT THE HELL, LET'S SEE
WHAT HAPPENS."

BoBo

#19315
One last thought on the Grand Valley process :P. The timing of this may have had a lot to do with it, but the process of interviewing and selecting their coach was a lot less open and transparent than what happened when Whitewater hired LL. Maybe that's a fundamental difference between DIII and the higher-profile levels, I don't know. The articles said they had an 8 member interview panel that included 2 current players. You'd think with one of the candidates the son-in-law of the AD, they would have more of the university and community involved in the process. At least the prospects of neopitism would be greatly reduced. If GV doesn't make the national championship in '10, it might put him on the hot seat. From what I read, GV has a high opinion of themselves (6 national finals in 9 years will do that). They can possibly explain the expedient process was due to the holiday's with no one on campus as well as recruiting issues. But, on the other hand, I believe the swiftness of their actions suggests the end result was a forgone conclusion. Looking at the backgrounds of some of the other candidates ID'd by the newspapers, they all seemed to have coaching credentials better than Mitchell - I guess they placed much more weight on experience at GV and the spouse issue.  :-\   ;) Time will tell, but I hope as far as the AD is concerned, he doesn't die by his sword. I really don't care what becomes of Grand Valley, but I just think it's interesting at a time when nothing much is going on.
I'VE REACHED THAT AGE
WHERE MY BRAIN GOES
FROM "YOU PROBABLY
SHOULDN'T SAY THAT," TO
"WHAT THE HELL, LET'S SEE
WHAT HAPPENS."

kubiack78

Quote from: warhawkbabe on January 05, 2010, 09:07:32 PM
I am glad that LL did not get the job at GVSU. As he will be able to continue what has been happening the last couple years, and he is know working with all of his recruits as this senior class was Berezowitz's last recruiting class. However I doubt that will matter as the Hawks are sure to continue their dominance in the WIAC for a while, I hope.
I thought it was funny that on warhawkfootball.com he said will not comment specifically on any coaching vacancy rumors or media stories. I don't think it was a rumor as he interviewed according to the newspapaers and I don;t think any newspaper would make something up about who did and did not interview.
I see no problem with him saying that he interviewed for another job at a higher level of college football.
Anyways glad to see that he is back and everything in the Warhawk nation can know return to normal.


just stop ok,  admit that you are not a female aunt of some former student or whatever lie you are trying to spread.   Just admit who you are, you know waaaaaaaay too much info for some one who is just a casual fan..... Sean

kubiack78

I am happy that LL is still the coach at UWW.   I know him and  he is a good guy.    Back in the early 90's  actually 1990 I was working for Brez in the summer as part of the stadium crew.  we were un-bolting and re-bolting the stadium bleachers to fix the cracks in the concrete and then repainting the pressboxes.   While repainting we happened upon a set of initials "LL "86"  painted in one of the press boxes  we left it alone.   Just curious if it is still there.  Voice... or Badgerwarhawk????? anyonw know  If I remember it was at the South end of the press box.

BoBo

I'VE REACHED THAT AGE
WHERE MY BRAIN GOES
FROM "YOU PROBABLY
SHOULDN'T SAY THAT," TO
"WHAT THE HELL, LET'S SEE
WHAT HAPPENS."

badgerwarhawk

Quote from: warhawk78 on January 06, 2010, 01:11:09 AM
I am happy that LL is still the coach at UWW.   I know him and  he is a good guy.    Back in the early 90's  actually 1990 I was working for Brez in the summer as part of the stadium crew.  we were un-bolting and re-bolting the stadium bleachers to fix the cracks in the concrete and then repainting the pressboxes.   While repainting we happened upon a set of initials "LL "86"  painted in one of the press boxes  we left it alone.   Just curious if it is still there.  Voice... or Badgerwarhawk????? anyonw know  If I remember it was at the South end of the press box.

I've never seen it.

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