FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[bleedpurple]

WIAC PROJECTIONS

www.uwwfootball.blogspot.com

[John Gleich]

If Mount and UWW win out, they will have brackets built around them. The South is probably set also.

What is in question is how the committee decides to designate the brackets. If Mount is in a geographic bracket that is "East" in nature, and UWW is in one "North" in nature. UST (as it stands now) will be a #1. If UWW is west, NCC could be #1. There are other permutations, but it's a lead pipe cinch that UWW and Mount rule the roost.

I wonder what happens if one of them loses a game... will the NCAA still split them on opposite brackets due to the historical significance of their Stagg match-ups or do they lose that consideration with a loss?

I'm not saying I foresee that happening (though I wouldn't mind if SP did it again this weekend!) and the possibility in and of itself becomes moot (unless the NCAA schedules the match-up prior to getting to Salem), but it's interesting to think about, none the less.

[wartknight]

Lets see.....menu for Saturday:

Before the Game

Chili
Hotdogs (for those who like Chili-Dogs)
Bloody Mary's
Beer
Chips/Dip
Assorted Munchies
And, oh yes, great people, great game, and wonderful weather....at least it looks like it.

After the Game

Chicken
Brats
Sub Sandwiches
Beer
Brandy
other beverages as necessary

WarhawkDad

Good menu b4 & after-do you really want the chili before the game?!! The perk will be on fire Sat!!

[02 Warhawk]

If Mount and UWW win out, they will have brackets built around them. The South is probably set also.

What is in question is how the committee decides to designate the brackets. If Mount is in a geographic bracket that is "East" in nature, and UWW is in one "North" in nature. UST (as it stands now) will be a #1. If UWW is west, NCC could be #1. There are other permutations, but it's a lead pipe cinch that UWW and Mount rule the roost.

I wonder what happens if one of them loses a game... will the NCAA still split them on opposite brackets due to the historical significance of their Stagg match-ups or do they lose that consideration with a loss?

I'm not saying I foresee that happening (though I wouldn't mind if SP did it again this weekend!) and the possibility in and of itself becomes moot (unless the NCAA schedules the match-up prior to getting to Salem), but it's interesting to think about, none the less.

I would think so...uww has entered the playoffs with loses before (2007 and 2008), and still remained opposite of UMU.

[WarhawkDad]

Lets see.....menu for Saturday:

Before the Game

Chili
Hotdogs (for those who like Chili-Dogs)
Bloody Mary's
Beer
Chips/Dip
Assorted Munchies
And, oh yes, great people, great game, and wonderful weather....at least it looks like it.

After the Game

Chicken
Brats
Sub Sandwiches
Beer
Brandy
other beverages as necessary

WarhawkDad

Good menu b4 & after-do you really want the chili before the game?!! The perk will be on fire Sat!!

Oh, yeah, chili and bloody mary's before the game, what a great combination! 

[badgerwarhawk]

I'm not convinced the "historical significance" of our Stagg Bowl matchups with UMU means squat to the NCAA selection committee. 

[WarhawkDad]

I'm not convinced the "historical significance" of our Stagg Bowl matchups with UMU means squat to the NCAA selection committee. 

I agree, however, I do believe if UWW and UMU win out that they will be number one seeds.  I would think they would somewhat follow last year's pattern of moving UMU to the East and that would leave the North to North Central (if they win out) and UWW would have the West.   

Just my thoughts.

[Raider 68]

Bleedpurple, BoBO, 02 Warhawk, 413, BadgerWarhawk,

This is response to sflzman's question on the MIAA board, how do you see it?

Does anyone see any chance of there being a non-UWW/Mount U Championship game?


sflzman.

It will depend on the brackets to a degree, but let's see who "could maybe" beat either one them:

UWW:1. Linfield- played UWW tough last year

2. St. Thomas- has had a good year against some tough teams

3. Mary Hardin Baylor- pretty good year, but has struggled against UWW

Mount Union: 
1. North Central- depends where they play, but NC is having a good year
                            but has to beat Wheaton first

2. Wesley- good year so far, but their competition in the second half of the
                  season is much weaker, lost to the Raiders in the semi's 24-7 in '09 but
                  Mount lost their QB in the first quarter of the game

3. Ohio Northern- a rematch for Coach Paul against his Alma mater is possible
                             ONU has had a good year, except for the 27-0 loss to the
                             Raiders.

So what are the odds that UWW and Mount Union meet for the 6th straight time, it could  be 3:1 at this point, IMHO 

[02 Warhawk]

I'm not convinced the "historical significance" of our Stagg Bowl matchups with UMU means squat to the NCAA selection committee.  

I agree, however, I do believe if UWW and UMU win out that they will be number one seeds.  I would think they would somewhat follow last year's pattern of moving UMU to the East and that would leave the North to North Central (if they win out) and UWW would have the West.  

Just my thoughts.

No matter what happens, i don't think they will put UMU and UWW on the same of side of the bracket.


I really hope UMU stays in he North...I want to see them play NCC.

[02 Warhawk]

Bleedpurple, BoBO, 02 Warhawk, 413, BadgerWarhawk,

This is response to sflzman's question on the MIAA board, how do you see it?

Does anyone see any chance of there being a non-UWW/Mount U Championship game?


sflzman.

It will depend on the brackets to a degree, but let's see who "could maybe" beat either one them:

UWW:1. Linfield- played UWW tough last year

2. St. Thomas- has had a good year against some tough teams

3. Mary Hardin Baylor- pretty good year, but has struggled against UWW

Mount Union:  
1. North Central- depends where they play, but NC is having a good year
                           but has to beat Wheaton first

2. Wesley- good year so far, but their competition in the second half of the
                 season is much weaker, lost to the Raiders in the semi's 24-7 in '09 but
                 Mount lost their QB in the first quarter of the game

3. Ohio Northern- a rematch for Coach Paul against his Alma mater is possible
                            ONU has had a good year, except for the 27-0 loss to the
                            Raiders.

So what are the odds that UWW and Mount Union meet for the 6th straight time, it could  be 3:1 at this point, IMHO  

The team that really scares me this year is NCC. they historically always seem to have a very potent offense. along with that, this year they seem to have realy good defense as well.

UMHB - they don't seem to be the same this year...they had a lot of close wins. they can't establish the passing game.

Wesley - still don't consider them on the same level as UWW/UMU.

ST. Thomas - don't know too much about, they barely beat SJU (who seems to be having a down year this season). but they look like they have a tough defense, and can put up points as well.

Linfield - they always give UWW a hard time, playing them is never easy.

given the option to play in the West or North. I would prefer the West. I would like to have Linfield travel all way to wisconsin to play us. compared to NCC traveling just 2 hours to whitewater, it's just not the same.

[skunks_sidekick]

If either or both would lose, all historical significance goes out the window, and they both just become "one of the teams" in the bracket.  At that point, I would look for both of them to stay in their region as a #2/3 seed.   

Quite frankly, there is no way I see that happening with UWW, and I really can't see it happening to Mount unless B-W plays the game of its life, and Mount has another turnover prone game as they did against Marietta.  Both are unlikely. 

I would love for Mount to stay in the North, and would welcome the challenge of NCC (if they hold serve against Wheaton) coming to Alliance.  I know NCC is playing well this year, but until a team from that conference actually comes to Alliance and wins, I for one am skeptical of their overall strength.

And as I have stated emphatically many times, I do not believe a one dimensional team (MHB) will ever be able to win a Stagg.  You can be very strong running the ball (UWW), but you need a balanced attack when you get deeper in the play-offs.  UWW has that balanced attack, and that is why they have dominated these last five years.

[hazzben]

If Mount and UWW win out, they will have brackets built around them. The South is probably set also.

What is in question is how the committee decides to designate the brackets. If Mount is in a geographic bracket that is "East" in nature, and UWW is in one "North" in nature. UST (as it stands now) will be a #1. If UWW is west, NCC could be #1. There are other permutations, but it's a lead pipe cinch that UWW and Mount rule the roost.

I wonder what happens if one of them loses a game... will the NCAA still split them on opposite brackets due to the historical significance of their Stagg match-ups or do they lose that consideration with a loss?

I'm not saying I foresee that happening (though I wouldn't mind if SP did it again this weekend!) and the possibility in and of itself becomes moot (unless the NCAA schedules the match-up prior to getting to Salem), but it's interesting to think about, none the less.

I would think so...uww has entered the playoffs with loses before (2007 and 2008), and still remained opposite of UMU.

I'm pretty sure they set up which region will host which region based on the #1 seeds. The committee ranks each region according to its #1. So an undefeated UWW and Mount would be 1 & 2 and only meeting in the finals. However, in the case of upsets, high seeds host low seeds. So if any 1's lost, the region ranks at the start of the playoffs are out the window, right??

All that to say, history would be irrelevant if Mount and/or UWW lost. The regions would be built around and ranked according to the #1 seeds in each. But I'm with skunks...I don't think either loses from here on out.

[badgerwarhawk]

Bleedpurple, BoBO, 02 Warhawk, 413, BadgerWarhawk,

This is response to sflzman's question on the MIAA board, how do you see it?

Does anyone see any chance of there being a non-UWW/Mount U Championship game?


sflzman.

It will depend on the brackets to a degree, but let's see who "could maybe" beat either one them:

UWW:1. Linfield- played UWW tough last year

2. St. Thomas- has had a good year against some tough teams

3. Mary Hardin Baylor- pretty good year, but has struggled against UWW

Mount Union:  
1. North Central- depends where they play, but NC is having a good year
                           but has to beat Wheaton first

2. Wesley- good year so far, but their competition in the second half of the
                 season is much weaker, lost to the Raiders in the semi's 24-7 in '09 but
                 Mount lost their QB in the first quarter of the game

3. Ohio Northern- a rematch for Coach Paul against his Alma mater is possible
                            ONU has had a good year, except for the 27-0 loss to the
                            Raiders.

So what are the odds that UWW and Mount Union meet for the 6th straight time, it could  be 3:1 at this point, IMHO  

UWW

1.  Linfield...This is the team that causes me the most concern.  They've played us very tough and we've been fortunate to win the two encounters.  In both of the games it wouldn't have taken much for the outcome to be different.

2.  St Thomas...I've never seen them play so I'm not sure what to think about them.  Linfield handled them fairly easy last year and I don't think the MIAC is all that this year so they are not as much of a concern.

3.  UMHB...I'm not really concerned about them this year.  Aside from the first meeting we've handled them pretty easily.

UMU

1.  North Central...Perhaps the team that could give UMU the stiffest test.  

2.  Wesley...KABOOM  No offense intended but I just can't take Wesley seriously.  I don't see anyway they beat UMU

3.  Ohio Northern...This issue has already been decided.

However I'm sure there are other teams, Wartburg/Central for instance,  that could be in this discussion and, of course, in a single elimination tournament anything can happen.  Injuries or just a plain bad day can spell doom for any team regardless of their historical dominance.


Right now my focus and the staff/team's focus are on Stevens Point.  This will easily be the toughest game we've had to date and they've shown that they can beat us on our field.  After that we'll focus on Oshkosh and LaCrosse in that order.  None of this other stuff will mean diddley if we don't deal with those teams first.  

[UDubDub_Boiler]

Go Warhawks this weekend!!!

[bleedpurple]

Bleedpurple, BoBO, 02 Warhawk, 413, BadgerWarhawk,

This is response to sflzman's question on the MIAA board, how do you see it?

Does anyone see any chance of there being a non-UWW/Mount U Championship game?


sflzman.

It will depend on the brackets to a degree, but let's see who "could maybe" beat either one them:

UWW:1. Linfield- played UWW tough last year

2. St. Thomas- has had a good year against some tough teams

3. Mary Hardin Baylor- pretty good year, but has struggled against UWW

Mount Union: 
1. North Central- depends where they play, but NC is having a good year
                            but has to beat Wheaton first

2. Wesley- good year so far, but their competition in the second half of the
                  season is much weaker, lost to the Raiders in the semi's 24-7 in '09 but
                  Mount lost their QB in the first quarter of the game

3. Ohio Northern- a rematch for Coach Paul against his Alma mater is possible
                             ONU has had a good year, except for the 27-0 loss to the
                             Raiders.

So what are the odds that UWW and Mount Union meet for the 6th straight time, it could  be 3:1 at this point, IMHO 

Raider 68,

I would put the odds of a UW-W/Mount Union Stagg Bowl at 50/50. However, I don't take anything for granted in the playoffs.  The teams I am most concerned about are Linfield and St. Thomas.  Truthfully, I can't see anyone on Mount's side of the bracket that would pose much of a threat to them at all.  I don't think NCC could either score much against the Raiders or stop them too well.