FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Frank Rossi]

We've got Regional Rankings... Final time for the season that we'll see them:

http://d3blogs.com/d3football/2010/11/10/ncaas-third-regional-rankings/

[Raider 68]

How can UWW be a #2 seed in the West in the latest regional rankings?

[02 Warhawk]

How can UWW be a #2 seed in the West in the latest regional rankings?

Great question....probably b/c their regional wins (or lack their of) is holding them back. Infact NCC fan's have to be scratching their head about the North poll. they destoyed a very good Wheaton team....and dropped in the poll. I don't want to hear how UMU beat a good BW team....not nearly the same. BW is overrated.

Looking at this regional poll, the only thing that makes since to me is:

West: STU
North: UWW
East: UMU
South: MHB or Wesley

[HScoach]

^ I think so too.  They moved North Central behind Mount to allow Whitewater to be separated from St Thomas by the Warhawks being the #1 in the North and Mount the #1 in the East.

Interesting how #2 NCC can beat the North's #1 ranked team (Wheaton), #3 Mount can beat the North's 6th ranked team (Baldwin Wallace) and Mount jumps North Central.

If the plan is to move Mount east, I'm not sure what makes St Thomas a better option in the West than NCC is in the North?  but is sure looks like they moved Mount & North Central around to justify that very thing.

[d-train]

They moved North Central behind Mount to allow Whitewater to be separated from St Thomas by the Warhawks being the #1 in the North and Mount the #1 in the East.

...but is sure looks like they moved Mount & North Central around to justify that very thing.

I thought these four regional rankings were done by four separate committees (of in-region coaches and AD types)...not one NCAA committee?

[skunks_sidekick]

How can UWW be a #2 seed in the West in the latest regional rankings?

Great question....probably b/c their regional wins (or lack their of) is holding them back. Infact NCC fan's have to be scratching their head about the North poll. they destoyed a very good Wheaton team....and dropped in the poll. I don't want to hear how UMU beat a good BW team....not nearly the same. BW was over rated.

Looking at this regional poll, the only thing that makes since to me is:

West: STU
North: UWW
East: UMU
South: MHB or Wesley

A "very good" Wheaton team?  I think that remains to be seen.  Do I think they are better than B-W..most definitely.  But I think they are a good team, but not in the top 15.  I guess time (and the play-offs) will tell.

[02 Warhawk]

They moved North Central behind Mount to allow Whitewater to be separated from St Thomas by the Warhawks being the #1 in the North and Mount the #1 in the East.

...but is sure looks like they moved Mount & North Central around to justify that very thing.

I thought these four regional rankings were done by four separate committees (of in-region coaches and AD types)...not one NCAA committee?

yea, each region has it's own committee...then two memebers from each committee will combine to decide who plays who in what region for the playoffs.

[02 Warhawk]

How can UWW be a #2 seed in the West in the latest regional rankings?

Great question....probably b/c their regional wins (or lack their of) is holding them back. Infact NCC fan's have to be scratching their head about the North poll. they destoyed a very good Wheaton team....and dropped in the poll. I don't want to hear how UMU beat a good BW team....not nearly the same. BW was over rated.

Looking at this regional poll, the only thing that makes since to me is:

West: STU
North: UWW
East: UMU
South: MHB or Wesley

A "very good" Wheaton team?  I think that remains to be seen.  Do I think they are better than B-W..most definitely.  But I think they are a good team, but not in the top 15.  I guess time (and the play-offs) will tell.

I don't know...a one loss team in the 4th toughest conference in the country, with the fourth toughest schedule in the country...yea their up there in the top 15, IMHO.

[Mr. Ypsi]

They moved North Central behind Mount to allow Whitewater to be separated from St Thomas by the Warhawks being the #1 in the North and Mount the #1 in the East.

...but is sure looks like they moved Mount & North Central around to justify that very thing.

I thought these four regional rankings were done by four separate committees (of in-region coaches and AD types)...not one NCAA committee?

yea, each region has it's own committee...then two memebers from each committee will combine to decide who plays who in what region for the playoffs.

Specifically, it is the two co-chairs of each regional committee which IS the national committee.  Plenty of opportunity for 'collusion' (not saying there is, but there certainly could be).

[Mr. Ypsi]

How can UWW be a #2 seed in the West in the latest regional rankings?

Great question....probably b/c their regional wins (or lack their of) is holding them back. Infact NCC fan's have to be scratching their head about the North poll. they destoyed a very good Wheaton team....and dropped in the poll. I don't want to hear how UMU beat a good BW team....not nearly the same. BW was over rated.

Looking at this regional poll, the only thing that makes since to me is:

West: STU
North: UWW
East: UMU
South: MHB or Wesley

A "very good" Wheaton team?  I think that remains to be seen.  Do I think they are better than B-W..most definitely.  But I think they are a good team, but not in the top 15.  I guess time (and the play-offs) will tell.

Whether or not Wheaton is a very good team in YOUR eyes is not the point.  The committee had Wheaton ranked #1 in the region.  While I personally would have had UMU #1 all along, how can the committee possibly justify jumping UMU over NCC THIS WEEK??!!

IF the 'fix' is in to select St. Thomas as the 4th #1 rather than NCC, the committee may have made one blunder.  IWU entered the north rankings at #8, which means NCC gained wins over TWO regionally-ranked opponents, while St. John's did NOT enter the west rankings, leaving the Tommies with only ONE such win.

[hazzben]

Specifically, it is the two co-chairs of each regional committee which IS the national committee.  Plenty of opportunity for 'collusion' (not saying there is, but there certainly could be).

Not buying it...

1- the chairs of the regional committee aren't given extra votes when it comes to ranking the regions.

2- highly unlikely - and unethical - for the 8 regional chairs/national committee members to be working together & in contact with one another to try such a move.

3- why would the North region committee want UWW moved into their region  I've got to think they'd much rather see a true North team get the #1 should Mount get moved East.

4- this entire scenario assumes that the other members of the North and West regional committees are mere puppets of the chairs. These guys are head coaches and ADs...not exactly prime criteria for pushovers when it comes time to decide who should be ranked where.

[d-train]

Specifically, it is the two co-chairs of each regional committee which IS the national committee.  Plenty of opportunity for 'collusion' (not saying there is, but there certainly could be).

Not buying it...

1- the chairs of the regional committee aren't given extra votes when it comes to ranking the regions.

2- highly unlikely - and unethical - for the 8 regional chairs/national committee members to be working together & in contact with one another to try such a move.

3- why would the North region committee want UWW moved into their region  I've got to think they'd much rather see a true North team get the #1 should Mount get moved East.

4- this entire scenario assumes that the other members of the North and West regional committees are mere puppets of the chairs. These guys are head coaches and ADs...not exactly prime criteria for pushovers when it comes time to decide who should be ranked where.

+1

[KitchenSink]

Does anyone else wonder why - when you click on an "Around the Region", you get a page with half the column.  Then you have to click again to get the whole column.  Why not just take us right to the whole column page?

I wents tuh college, but I dunno dis one.  Is there some Key Advertising on that half column page, Pat?

(The above question is submitted with all due respect to the ownership.  Thank you, Godfather)

[Mr. Ypsi]

Fear not, guys, I haven't taken up residence on the grassy knoll!

I was merely noting that the way the committees are structured would certainly 'allow' collusion.  I did not, nor do I now, think collusion has actually occurred.

But the jump of UMU in the north rankings THIS WEEK is completely inexplicable - by the rankings of this very committee #2 decisively beats #1 (on the road, no less), and #3 is now #1??!!  I defy anyone to make sense of that.

[BDB]

Since the WIAC has 2 coaching vacancies for next year, has anything started at RF or LAX such as creating a search and screen committee or will it be the AD's call at either place?

Anyone with insights?