FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Raider 68]

HS Coach has Mount as a 2.5 pt underdog which I think is about right. I see this as a very close game but would give the slight edge to UWW. They have been #1 all year long. It should be a great one again.

IMO, the key will be Mount's pass protection. If they can buy enough time to throw effectively then they will have a good shot at winning. If not, I don't think we can produce a sustained running attack against the UWW front 7.

Skark,

Agree in part, think this should be a pick-em, but UWW has been #1 all year so HScoach's spread is fine. Another key to the game is the Raider's defense against UWW's running game. A Raider lead could force UWW to do more passing then they would like, and the Raider's defense speed will be huge in this game. If however UWW just pounds the ball, that will have a huge impact as well. Bethel tried with Flannery and got nowhere!

[BoBo]

HS Coach has Mount as a 2.5 pt underdog which I think is about right. I see this as a very close game but would give the slight edge to UWW. They have been #1 all year long. It should be a great one again.

IMO, the key will be Mount's pass protection. If they can buy enough time to throw effectively then they will have a good shot at winning. If not, I don't think we can produce a sustained running attack against the UWW front 7.

Skark,

Agree in part, think this should be a pick-em, but UWW has been #1 all year so HScoach's spread is fine. Another key to the game is the Raider's defense against UWW's running game. A Raider lead could force UWW to do more passing then they would like, and the Raider's defense speed will be huge in this game. If however UWW just pounds the ball, that will have a huge impact as well. Bethel tried with Flannery and got nowhere!

Raider 68 - I've read posts on another board that seem to indicate you feel the Raiders are the favorite - at least I think that's what you said. In the post above, you seem fine with the 2.5 points that HScoach placed on the game in the OAC pick'ems. Have you changed your feeling and now think the Warhawks are the favorite? Speed will be a factor, but the Warhawks have a lot of it, too. Bethel got nowhere, IMO because they had limited options throwing the ball (just a guess), whereas the Warhawks do have threats in the passing game.  If the Warhawks have some early success at the run, watch out for the play action. As Keith and Pat talked about on the latest podcast, Brekke throws a nice ball and is very accurate. If the rush can be contained (like it was almost the entire game against Wesley), he's been pretty good at processing his reads and throwing to the right guy at the right time. Keith especially said this about saturday.

[Gig Harbor Cat]

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  Bring it home for the West !!

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Phone it in

GHC

[warhawkguard]

Bringing in a Kehres to UW-RF would be huge. Everybody would take notice. Recruits would notice. The program would improve very quickly, just needs some backing from the school and others....

Why is it UWW can't seem to land the big and fast receivers? Are any of our receivers over 6 ft? They weren't when I played. We had guys like Paul Jones, fast as hell but rather short so jump balls favored the d-backs. Looks like that hasn't changed much. Getting a superfast guy like CS with alittle size is tough. Are there just not many of these types to go around adter the D-1 programs get to them?

[Raider 68]

HS Coach has Mount as a 2.5 pt underdog which I think is about right. I see this as a very close game but would give the slight edge to UWW. They have been #1 all year long. It should be a great one again.

IMO, the key will be Mount's pass protection. If they can buy enough time to throw effectively then they will have a good shot at winning. If not, I don't think we can produce a sustained running attack against the UWW front 7.

Skark,

Agree in part, think this should be a pick-em, but UWW has been #1 all year so HScoach's spread is fine. Another key to the game is the Raider's defense against UWW's running game. A Raider lead could force UWW to do more passing then they would like, and the Raider's defense speed will be huge in this game. If however UWW just pounds the ball, that will have a huge impact as well. Bethel tried with Flannery and got nowhere!

Raider 68 - I've read posts on another board that seem to indicate you feel the Raiders are the favorite - at least I think that's what you said. In the post above, you seem fine with the 2.5 points that HScoach placed on the game in the OAC pick'ems. Have you changed your feeling and now think the Warhawks are the favorite? Speed will be a factor, but the Warhawks have a lot of it, too. Bethel got nowhere, IMO because they had limited options throwing the ball (just a guess), whereas the Warhawks do have threats in the passing game.  If the Warhawks have some early success at the run, watch out for the play action. As Keith and Pat talked about on the latest podcast, Brekke throws a nice ball and is very accurate. If the rush can be contained (like it was almost the entire game against Wesley), he's been pretty good at processing his reads and throwing to the right guy at the right time. Keith especially said this about saturday.

BoBo,

I said on my first post of this renewal of the Stagg, that the game would be a toss-up and still believe that. Both teams have the potential to utilize their strengths to their advantage. I do hope however that a turnover either way does not decide this one!

[Just Bill]

Bringing in a Kehres to UW-RF would be huge. Everybody would take notice. Recruits would notice. The program would improve very quickly, just needs some backing from the school and others....

I don't know.  WE all know the name Kehres and what it means in D-III football.  I don't know what it means to a bunch of high school kids in Wisconsin and Minnesota. I'm guessing not a lot.

[jaypeter]

Yeah, you'd think Kehres would be in line for a more high profile position...unless this is some kind of ploy to raise River Falls up to keep UWW out of future Stagg Bowls 

Maybe UW-RF is in cahoots with UW-W to distract VK this week prior to the Stagg Bowl? 

Not sure how this works since there's a UWW assistant on the list, too.  Unless that is also part of the ruse...

[02 Warhawk]

Bringing in a Kehres to UW-RF would be huge. Everybody would take notice. Recruits would notice. The program would improve very quickly, just needs some backing from the school and others....

Why is it UWW can't seem to land the big and fast receivers? Are any of our receivers over 6 ft? They weren't when I played. We had guys like Paul Jones, fast as hell but rather short so jump balls favored the d-backs. Looks like that hasn't changed much. Getting a superfast guy like CS with alittle size is tough. Are there just not many of these types to go around adter the D-1 programs get to them?

Derek Stanley was a huge part of the 05 and 06 team....he played a little for the St. Louis Rams. He was certainly athletic and fast...but he may have been a shade under 6'0" though.

I'm happy with what we have with Rusch and Brandes.

[MasterJedi]

Bringing in a Kehres to UW-RF would be huge. Everybody would take notice. Recruits would notice. The program would improve very quickly, just needs some backing from the school and others....

Why is it UWW can't seem to land the big and fast receivers? Are any of our receivers over 6 ft? They weren't when I played. We had guys like Paul Jones, fast as hell but rather short so jump balls favored the d-backs. Looks like that hasn't changed much. Getting a superfast guy like CS with alittle size is tough. Are there just not many of these types to go around adter the D-1 programs get to them?

Derek Stanley was a huge part of the 05 and 06 team....he played a little for the St. Louis Rams. He was certainly athletic and fast...but he may have been a shade under 6'0" though.

I'm happy with what we have with Rusch and Brandes.

I agree, I'd rather have someone who has good hands and is fast enough than tall and fast. Look at Wes Welker, he's a beast and he's only 5'9".

[Raider 68]

There have been so many D3 fans who have expressed their dismay that  Mount Union and UWW are playing again in the 6th straight championship game. Same old now it is getting boring, according to many.

Here is something to consider:

The two teams MTU and UWW have won 48 playoff games over the last 6 years to have the opportunity to play for a title, so all the other teams have had 48 opportunites to beat either one of them. Keith M (D3football) mentioned this point of the Podcast today.

In D1 the BCS tries to place the 2 best teams against each other, but we all know that has not always worked, so D3 does makes it work, even though to some it is become very boring.

This year some other teams have made some real headway, so next year or coming years the "Purple" match-up could change.

But the Stagg should always be "Best on Best" IMHO, regardless if it is the same teams or colors each year. 48 chances in the last 6 years, that is what the other D3 teams need to shoot to break that string!

[02 Warhawk]

Bringing in a Kehres to UW-RF would be huge. Everybody would take notice. Recruits would notice. The program would improve very quickly, just needs some backing from the school and others....

I don't know.  WE all know the name Kehres and what it means in D-III football.  I don't know what it means to a bunch of high school kids in Wisconsin and Minnesota. I'm guessing not a lot.

Vincent Kehres, was that the same guy who got flagged in the 07 Stagg Bowl for running onto the feild...complaining about a Whitewater touchdown? I think he wanted Beaver to get flagged for "pushing" Jones in the endzone on a QB sneak.

When I saw he was up for the job, that's the first thinkg that popped into my mind.

[badgerwarhawk]

I think the mere fact that Kehres has been interested in the job shows what others think about the WIAC.  He's willing to leave a coordinator position at the most respected DIII program in the nation to take on a rebuilding job at lower level WIAC program.  

[Just Bill]

Because if they are big AND fast, they go to D-I schools, not UWW or anywhere else in D-III. The world we live in means we get guys that have some kind of drawback.  Big, but slow. Fast, but small.

Yes, they come to D-III everyonce in a while, but that's why D-III is really about maximizing what you have. Not worrying about what you don't, because you often can't control that.

[WarhawkDad]

I think the mere fact that Kehres has been interested in the job shows what others think about the WIAC.  He's willing to leave a coordinator position at the most respected DIII program in the nation to take on a rebuilding job at lower level WIAC program.  

Also, he is probably ready to step out from being in his Dad's shadow.  I applaud him for wanting to see what he can do outside of Mount Union.

[02 Warhawk]

There have been so many D3 fans who have expressed their dismay that  Mount Union and UWW are playing again in the 6th straight championship game. Same old now it is getting boring, according to many.

Here is something to consider:

The two teams MTU and UWW have won 48 playoff games over the last 6 years to have the opportunity to play for a title, so all the other teams have had 48 opportunites to beat either one of them. Keith M (D3football) mentioned this point of the Podcast today.

In D1 the BCS tries to place the 2 best teams against each other, but we all know that has not always worked, so D3 does makes it work, even though to some it is become very boring.

This year some other teams have made some real headway, so next year or coming years the "Purple" match-up could change.

But the Stagg should always be "Best on Best" IMHO, regardless if it is the same teams or colors each year. 48 chances in the last 6 years, that is what the other D3 teams need to shoot to break that string!

I like what Bleedpurple posted on the OAC board...on suggesting what other teams can do to prevent this:

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