FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[emma17]

"... Derek Blanchard was one of the best OL in Mount's history. How will his brother stack up as top UWW QB's?"

IMO, Donovan may be one of the best passers- Danny Jones was a gamer.  Matt is a great combination of both. He is an excellent passer with great athleticism- and with size/strength.

[footballfan413]

02,

Several points regarding the WIAC and OAC conferences are true as well as UWW having closer games
than the Raiders. Does it help to have to win in the second half, yes, but sooner or later relying on a strong second half will fall short.

On the 2010 Stagg bowl, a new QB, not experienced, Why not use the best player on the field. IMHO, UWW lines were better than the Raiders last year and that is why UWW prevailed. This year is different and Mount may have the edge in that category, if both teams return to Virginia in December. 

Yea, that's the reasoning I keep hearing. But I would rather have the best player on the field play the position he's an All American at. Unless Shorts can find away to throw it down field to himself. Like in a Bugs Bunny cartoon 

I remember one play that game where Shorts threw a perfect pass down field, and it hit the WR in stride over the middle....just to have it bounce off the receiver's chest and fall incomplete. I thought to myself, wow... if that was Piloto throwing that ball to Shorts, no doubt Shorts would caught it and ran it in for six. Then we would have a whole new ball game.

About the lines, that may have been the case in 2010 and maybe 2009. But in 2007 I remember Mount Union having an Olineman that was the best in the country....his brother now plays QB for the Warhawks.

Got to totally disagree with this comment, 02, having watched this game, in person, and over and over and over again!   07 was the first year that we, finally, won the line of scrimmage. It was the key to everything.  It allowed the defense to get big time pressure on Micheli, forcing him to pull the ball down and develop happy feet early and often which in turn helped to shut down Garcon and render him a non factor for the first time in three meetings.  Watch the goal line stand on 3rd and 4th down and you will see our defensive line just collapse into their O-line.  I remember LK making the comment that they ran their, "bread and butter," play with Kmic on 4th down and they were shocked when it didn't work.  Winning the LOS allowed Danny Jones the luxury of being his brilliant run/pass self and it opened holes that allowed Beaver to run all over the Raiders.    I am taking nothing away from Derek, who was a spectacular player, (and if they had more than one OL of his quality, we would have been screwed,) but I believe, without question, that winning the LOS in 07 is the #1 biggest reason we brought home the Walnut and Bronze that first time.     

[BoBo]

"... Derek Blanchard was one of the best OL in Mount's history. How will his brother stack up as top UWW QB's?"

IMO, Donovan may be one of the best passers- Danny Jones was a gamer.  Matt is a great combination of both. He is an excellent passer with great athleticism- and with size/strength.

Some of the best for Whitewater I've seen include Roger Johnson and Bob Berezowitz in the 60's, Mike LaLoggia in the late 70's (probably the most accurate passer), Jim Stoppenbach & LL (both from Jefferson H.S.) in the 80's, Ty Grovesteen in the 90's (also very accurate), Justin Jacobs, Danny Jones, Jeff Donovan, and Blanchard in the 2000's.  What Brekke did in last years playoffs is nothing short of a miracle IMO, but he's only a junior with probably eyes on starting next year.  I will hold off on him until after he's graduated. However, if he can somehow match his playoff run from last year in a full season, he would have to have his name in consideration, too.
Some of the best QB's in the conference I ever saw were, from UWSP -  Reed Giordana ('76 & '77 POY) and Kirk Baumgartner ('88 & '89 POY) or Chris Charnish ('70 & '71 POY) & Al Charnish ('68 POY) from Platteville. Those Point QB's were absolute gunslingers before the word was invented to describe QB's...they could've played for today's U of Houston. I'm very interested who the conference will select as the All-Time WIAC QB.  There are many options available; many who I didn't mention, either.

BTW, where is stealth?  Haven't heard from him in over a year, I'd bet!! 

[02 Warhawk]

If anyone is looking to pass sometime before Saturday's game, I have my WIAC game write-ups posted on my blog.

[02 Warhawk]

02,

Several points regarding the WIAC and OAC conferences are true as well as UWW having closer games
than the Raiders. Does it help to have to win in the second half, yes, but sooner or later relying on a strong second half will fall short.

On the 2010 Stagg bowl, a new QB, not experienced, Why not use the best player on the field. IMHO, UWW lines were better than the Raiders last year and that is why UWW prevailed. This year is different and Mount may have the edge in that category, if both teams return to Virginia in December. 

Yea, that's the reasoning I keep hearing. But I would rather have the best player on the field play the position he's an All American at. Unless Shorts can find away to throw it down field to himself. Like in a Bugs Bunny cartoon 

I remember one play that game where Shorts threw a perfect pass down field, and it hit the WR in stride over the middle....just to have it bounce off the receiver's chest and fall incomplete. I thought to myself, wow... if that was Piloto throwing that ball to Shorts, no doubt Shorts would caught it and ran it in for six. Then we would have a whole new ball game.

About the lines, that may have been the case in 2010 and maybe 2009. But in 2007 I remember Mount Union having an Olineman that was the best in the country....his brother now plays QB for the Warhawks.

Got to totally disagree with this comment, 02, having watched this game, in person, and over and over and over again!   07 was the first year that we, finally, won the line of scrimmage. It was the key to everything.  It allowed the defense to get big time pressure on Micheli, forcing him to pull the ball down and develop happy feet early and often which in turn helped to shut down Garcon and render him a non factor for the first time in three meetings.  Watch the goal line stand on 3rd and 4th down and you will see our defensive line just collapse into their O-line.  I remember LK making the comment that they ran their, "bread and butter," play with Kmic on 4th down and they were shocked when it didn't work.  Winning the LOS allowed Danny Jones the luxury of being his brilliant run/pass self and it opened holes that allowed Beaver to run all over the Raiders.    I am taking nothing away from Derek, who was an spectacular player, (and if they had more than one OL of his quality, we would have been screwed,) but I believe, without question, that winning the LOS in 07 is the #1 biggest reason we brought home the Walnut and Bronze that first time.     

Ok, you may have a point there. UMU had a great line, but UWW's that much better.

[footballfan413]

02,

Several points regarding the WIAC and OAC conferences are true as well as UWW having closer games
than the Raiders. Does it help to have to win in the second half, yes, but sooner or later relying on a strong second half will fall short.

On the 2010 Stagg bowl, a new QB, not experienced, Why not use the best player on the field. IMHO, UWW lines were better than the Raiders last year and that is why UWW prevailed. This year is different and Mount may have the edge in that category, if both teams return to Virginia in December. 

Yea, that's the reasoning I keep hearing. But I would rather have the best player on the field play the position he's an All American at. Unless Shorts can find away to throw it down field to himself. Like in a Bugs Bunny cartoon 

I remember one play that game where Shorts threw a perfect pass down field, and it hit the WR in stride over the middle....just to have it bounce off the receiver's chest and fall incomplete. I thought to myself, wow... if that was Piloto throwing that ball to Shorts, no doubt Shorts would caught it and ran it in for six. Then we would have a whole new ball game.

About the lines, that may have been the case in 2010 and maybe 2009. But in 2007 I remember Mount Union having an Olineman that was the best in the country....his brother now plays QB for the Warhawks.

Got to totally disagree with this comment, 02, having watched this game, in person, and over and over and over again!   07 was the first year that we, finally, won the line of scrimmage. It was the key to everything.  It allowed the defense to get big time pressure on Micheli, forcing him to pull the ball down and develop happy feet early and often which in turn helped to shut down Garcon and render him a non factor for the first time in three meetings.  Watch the goal line stand on 3rd and 4th down and you will see our defensive line just collapse into their O-line.  I remember LK making the comment that they ran their, "bread and butter," play with Kmic on 4th down and they were shocked when it didn't work.  Winning the LOS allowed Danny Jones the luxury of being his brilliant run/pass self and it opened holes that allowed Beaver to run all over the Raiders.    I am taking nothing away from Derek, who was an spectacular player, (and if they had more than one OL of his quality, we would have been screwed,) but I believe, without question, that winning the LOS in 07 is the #1 biggest reason we brought home the Walnut and Bronze that first time.     

Ok, you may have a point there. UMU had a great line, but UWW's that much better.

Fixed it for ya...............   Really enjoying the blog, BTW, 02!  Great work.   

[emma17]

02,

Several points regarding the WIAC and OAC conferences are true as well as UWW having closer games
than the Raiders. Does it help to have to win in the second half, yes, but sooner or later relying on a strong second half will fall short.

On the 2010 Stagg bowl, a new QB, not experienced, Why not use the best player on the field. IMHO, UWW lines were better than the Raiders last year and that is why UWW prevailed. This year is different and Mount may have the edge in that category, if both teams return to Virginia in December. 

Yea, that's the reasoning I keep hearing. But I would rather have the best player on the field play the position he's an All American at. Unless Shorts can find away to throw it down field to himself. Like in a Bugs Bunny cartoon 

I remember one play that game where Shorts threw a perfect pass down field, and it hit the WR in stride over the middle....just to have it bounce off the receiver's chest and fall incomplete. I thought to myself, wow... if that was Piloto throwing that ball to Shorts, no doubt Shorts would caught it and ran it in for six. Then we would have a whole new ball game.

About the lines, that may have been the case in 2010 and maybe 2009. But in 2007 I remember Mount Union having an Olineman that was the best in the country....his brother now plays QB for the Warhawks.

Got to totally disagree with this comment, 02, having watched this game, in person, and over and over and over again!   07 was the first year that we, finally, won the line of scrimmage. It was the key to everything.  It allowed the defense to get big time pressure on Micheli, forcing him to pull the ball down and develop happy feet early and often which in turn helped to shut down Garcon and render him a non factor for the first time in three meetings.  Watch the goal line stand on 3rd and 4th down and you will see our defensive line just collapse into their O-line.  I remember LK making the comment that they ran their, "bread and butter," play with Kmic on 4th down and they were shocked when it didn't work.  Winning the LOS allowed Danny Jones the luxury of being his brilliant run/pass self and it opened holes that allowed Beaver to run all over the Raiders.    I am taking nothing away from Derek, who was a spectacular player, (and if they had more than one OL of his quality, we would have been screwed,) but I believe, without question, that winning the LOS in 07 is the #1 biggest reason we brought home the Walnut and Bronze that first time.     

Good call on the LOS battle 413.  Thinking of that game, I think it is still my favorite I've watched.  In that game, every unit of UWW played a superb game.  I don't have to tell you, but the linebacker play of UWW in that game was as good as any game I've ever seen.  The DB's were equally as great and every part of the offense performed great.  2007 was the complete game especially eliminating the mental mistakes that cost UWW big time in 2005 and 2006.

[BoBo]

UW-Milwaukee has hired a consulting firm to work on a strategic plan for the Panthers athletic program, with one part of the task to determine the possibility of returning football to UWM.  They last played in the conference, I think, in 1963 (which was also noteworthy as being the only year La Crosse has ever finished last in the history of the conference...and winless on the year!)

New UWM AD in his own words: "There's nothing like a football Saturday," he said. "It's a great marketing tool."

[PurpleSuit]

UW-Milwaukee has hired a consulting firm to work on a strategic plan for the Panthers athletic program, with one part of the task to determine the possibility of returning football to UWM.  They last played in the conference, I think, in 1963 (which was also noteworthy as being the only year La Crosse has ever finished last in the history of the conference...and winless on the year!)

New UWM AD in his own words: "There's nothing like a football Saturday," he said. "It's a great marketing tool."

a non-D3 football progam in Wisconsin, what a crazy idea

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

If anyone is looking to pass sometime before Saturday's game, I have my WIAC game write-ups posted on my blog.

I'm not looking to pass (expire) for a long time, but I may have some time to pass before Saturday's game. 

[KitchenSink]

I remember attending a UWM football game in 1973 or 1974.  I see 1974 was their last season before dropping it - I hope it wasn't something I did.

The new UWM AD has grand plans for virtually every sport.  Much grander than the taxpayers have funding potential  - by a ton (and alumni, too).  So I wouldn't hold my breath.

[bleedpurple]

I remember attending a UWM football game in 1973 or 1974.  I see 1974 was their last season before dropping it - I hope it wasn't something I did.

The new UWM AD has grand plans for virtually every sport.  Much grander than the taxpayers have funding potential  - by a ton (and alumni, too).  So I wouldn't hold my breath.

Their last game was in 1974 against UW-W. UWM won 26-14. 

[badgerwarhawk]

"... Derek Blanchard was one of the best OL in Mount's history. How will his brother stack up as top UWW QB's?"

IMO, Donovan may be one of the best passers- Danny Jones was a gamer.  Matt is a great combination of both. He is an excellent passer with great athleticism- and with size/strength.

If you check the WARHAWK record book you'll see Justin Jacobs and Jeff Donovan's names plastered all over it.  Matt has a place in a couple of categories (fewest interceptions, pass completion % and attempts w/o an interception in a season).  I see him as a combination of Justin Jacobs (size, arm strength),  Danny Jones (mobility) and Jeff Donovan (accuracy).  Each of the three of them were outstanding in their own right.  Matt just seems to have a bit of all of them in his game.  It's really unfortunate that he missed the playoffs last year because if he had played and played like he had for the rest of the season his name would be more prominent in the record book.  Regardless when he finished we're going to remember him as one of the better ones.

The WARHAWK jv played UW-M's club team for a few years in the recent past but the games weren't competitive and eventually were discontinued.   

[badgerwarhawk]

Some of the best QB's in the conference I ever saw were, from UWSP -  Reed Giordana ('76 & '77 POY) and Kirk Baumgartner ('88 & '89 POY) or Chris Charnish ('70 & '71 POY) & Al Charnish ('68 POY) from Platteville. Those Point QB's were absolute gunslingers before the word was invented to describe QB's...they could've played for today's U of Houston. I'm very interested who the conference will select as the All-Time WIAC QB.  There are many options available; many who I didn't mention, either.

I'd add Platteville's Tom Stetzer, Stout's Matt Bunyon and Point's Scott Krause to the list.  They were also exceptional talents.

[BoBo]

Some of the best QB's in the conference I ever saw were, from UWSP -  Reed Giordana ('76 & '77 POY) and Kirk Baumgartner ('88 & '89 POY) or Chris Charnish ('70 & '71 POY) & Al Charnish ('68 POY) from Platteville. Those Point QB's were absolute gunslingers before the word was invented to describe QB's...they could've played for today's U of Houston. I'm very interested who the conference will select as the All-Time WIAC QB.  There are many options available; many who I didn't mention, either.

I'd add Platteville's Tom Stetzer, Stout's Matt Bunyon and Point's Scott Krause to the list.  They were also exceptional talents.

A couple others I just remembered: La Crosse's Bob Krepfle & Craig Kusick