FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[badgerwarhawk]

No

[WarhawkDad]

Enough of this silence.
I'll start a 2012 outlook-prognostication thread. 

I would not be surprised to see UWW with a higher scoring offense in 2012.  I know we are losing a great, great group of senior starters in Coppage, Blanchard, Allemand, Olson, Robinson and Ford.  My theory is this:  I believe there was more uncertainty in the offense for 2011 than in almost all of the 6 previous years given the change over in the offensive line and receiver corp.  I believe the uncertainty led to a greater degree of conservative play calling, especially given the play making ability of Coppage and Blanchard.  In effect, I think the always looming "big play" possibility of Coppage along with Blanchard's ability to pick up first downs via the run led to fewer chances taken on the offense.  Granted, Huber had his share of big plays and TD's, but I'm convinced he could have had monster numbers if it was in the game plan.  I also think the other receivers are really, really good and could have also had big numbers.  But again, the presence of Coppage and Blanchard fed into the staff's desire to limit turnovers and win field position (which I am not complaining about).

In 2012, the big play ability of Coppage will be gone as well as the athleticism of Blanchard.  I believe the offense will likely be more diverse.  As such, I believe we will see more points scored because this team has a lot of talent with a pretty good core of Olinemen coming back- and a defense that is young and fast.

Emma

Good to see you in person Friday night and it was fun tipping a few, along with #53 family and talking about the 2011 season and the potential of the 2012 season.   I have a strong tendency to agree with you regarding our offensive potential in 2012.   And our defense will be even stronger, especially the secondary in 2012.   Hope to see more of you this offseason.

WarhawkDad

[emma17]

Enough of this silence.
I'll start a 2012 outlook-prognostication thread. 

I would not be surprised to see UWW with a higher scoring offense in 2012.  I know we are losing a great, great group of senior starters in Coppage, Blanchard, Allemand, Olson, Robinson and Ford.  My theory is this:  I believe there was more uncertainty in the offense for 2011 than in almost all of the 6 previous years given the change over in the offensive line and receiver corp.  I believe the uncertainty led to a greater degree of conservative play calling, especially given the play making ability of Coppage and Blanchard.  In effect, I think the always looming "big play" possibility of Coppage along with Blanchard's ability to pick up first downs via the run led to fewer chances taken on the offense.  Granted, Huber had his share of big plays and TD's, but I'm convinced he could have had monster numbers if it was in the game plan.  I also think the other receivers are really, really good and could have also had big numbers.  But again, the presence of Coppage and Blanchard fed into the staff's desire to limit turnovers and win field position (which I am not complaining about).

In 2012, the big play ability of Coppage will be gone as well as the athleticism of Blanchard.  I believe the offense will likely be more diverse.  As such, I believe we will see more points scored because this team has a lot of talent with a pretty good core of Olinemen coming back- and a defense that is young and fast.

Emma

Good to see you in person Friday night and it was fun tipping a few, along with #53 family and talking about the 2011 season and the potential of the 2012 season.   I have a strong tendency to agree with you regarding our offensive potential in 2012.   And our defense will be even stronger, especially the secondary in 2012.   Hope to see more of you this offseason.

WarhawkDad

Great to see you and the group as well WarhawkDad.  That was a welcome surprise and future get togethers sure would be fun and a great way to keep the 2011 memories fresh and the excitement for 2012 going strong.   

[emma17]

413,

UWW needs to find that "big play" WR ( ala, Garcon/Shorts), which will be a plus for 2012, just 2 cents
worth! +K

Ya, cuz those kind of players come around all the time!   Actually, I think the Raiders need that more than we do.  We haven't had an NFL caliber WR since Derek and it hasn't stopped us the last few years.   

Well said 413 and nice work on the offensive stats.  I much prefer a great Oline with and a balanced attack along with the fantastic defense (including special teams) over a NFL type play maker.  The formula is proven. 

[02 Warhawk]

I agree with BW...WRs and defense will not be UWW's concern heading into the 2012 season.

My biggest concern is at the QB position. Hopefully Brekke has learned alot since his Stagg Bowl run in 2010.

[emma17]

I agree with BW...WRs and defense will not be UWW's concern heading into the 2012 season.

My biggest concern is at the QB position. Hopefully Brekke has learned alot since his Stagg Bowl run in 2010.

He's undefeated and we have very good QB's battling him too.

I'm most intrigued about the RB position. Do we have an open field threat like Coppage and Beaver?

[badgerwarhawk]

I don't think we do at this point in time.  Assuming Ward and Stanford are the top 2 running backs returning neither is the open field threat that Coppage or Beaver were.  I see both as more a power runner with decent open field speed but without the elusiveness of a Coppage or Beaver.  Those two just seemed to never be tackled by the first potential tackler.  While I was also impressed with Colton Swietzer I didn't really get much of a feel for that aspect of his game in his brief appearances.  But I'm not that worried about the position.  Whoever emerges will be fine because I expect the offensive line to be a strength.  A good offensive line can make an average runner pretty decent.   

Beaver graduated as the best runing back in the history of our program and I thought it would be unlikely that we'd see another like him for some time.  Who would have dreamed that the very next feature back would break his records?  The odds against it were incredible.  Can lightning strike a third time?  I don't expect it but I didn't expect it before and who knows who will be recruited to join the program next year. 

[02 Warhawk]

I agree with BW...WRs and defense will not be UWW's concern heading into the 2012 season.

My biggest concern is at the QB position. Hopefully Brekke has learned alot since his Stagg Bowl run in 2010.

He's undefeated and we have very good QB's battling him too.

I'm most intrigued about the RB position. Do we have an open field threat like Coppage and Beaver?

Yea, he's undefeated....but that can be attributed to great defense and handing the ball off to Coppage in playoffs.

[emma17]

I agree with BW...WRs and defense will not be UWW's concern heading into the 2012 season.

My biggest concern is at the QB position. Hopefully Brekke has learned alot since his Stagg Bowl run in 2010.

He's undefeated and we have very good QB's battling him too.

I'm most intrigued about the RB position. Do we have an open field threat like Coppage and Beaver?

Yea, he's undefeated....but that can be attributed to great defense and handing the ball off to Coppage in playoffs.

You are funny- you're like glum "oh no, we'll never make it".
You're right that Brekke wasn't asked to do too much BUT- in each of the last three playoff games he had to make huge plays. Vs NCC his passes to Brandes in first quarter were huge plus a TD run. Vs Wesley again big passes to Brandes to answer Wesley's TD. Against Mt- huge passes to Brandes and Huber in second quarter to answer Mt run.
He made some great plays in all the playoff games so I'm VERY confident in him.

[skunks_sidekick]

UWW is DOOMED!  The run is OVER.  No running back......marginal QB that learned nothing while he sat on the bench the last year.  Sigh......I feel for you guys.   

[footballfan413]

Enough of this silence.
I'll start a 2012 outlook-prognostication thread. 

I would not be surprised to see UWW with a higher scoring offense in 2012.  I know we are losing a great, great group of senior starters in Coppage, Blanchard, Allemand, Olson, Robinson and Ford.  My theory is this:  I believe there was more uncertainty in the offense for 2011 than in almost all of the 6 previous years given the change over in the offensive line and receiver corp.  I believe the uncertainty led to a greater degree of conservative play calling, especially given the play making ability of Coppage and Blanchard.  In effect, I think the always looming "big play" possibility of Coppage along with Blanchard's ability to pick up first downs via the run led to fewer chances taken on the offense.  Granted, Huber had his share of big plays and TD's, but I'm convinced he could have had monster numbers if it was in the game plan.  I also think the other receivers are really, really good and could have also had big numbers.  But again, the presence of Coppage and Blanchard fed into the staff's desire to limit turnovers and win field position (which I am not complaining about).

In 2012, the big play ability of Coppage will be gone as well as the athleticism of Blanchard.  I believe the offense will likely be more diverse.  As such, I believe we will see more points scored because this team has a lot of talent with a pretty good core of Olinemen coming back- and a defense that is young and fast.

Emma

Good to see you in person Friday night and it was fun tipping a few, along with #53 family and talking about the 2011 season and the potential of the 2012 season.   I have a strong tendency to agree with you regarding our offensive potential in 2012.   And our defense will be even stronger, especially the secondary in 2012.   Hope to see more of you this offseason.

WarhawkDad

Great to see you and the group as well WarhawkDad.  That was a welcome surprise and future get togethers sure would be fun and a great way to keep the 2011 memories fresh and the excitement for 2012 going strong.

Hmmmm, got me thinking.  Maybe the FIB's should plan an outing here at a sports bar in a central location to raise a glass to the 2011 champs.  I have been known to tailgate, belly up to the bar, now and again.  Just don't expect me to use my, "indoor voice."     Was planning to try and get together with 15's family anyway.  You boys in?  As the, "gender-challenged," one of the group, I'll do the organizing, of course.    
   

[02 Warhawk]

I agree with BW...WRs and defense will not be UWW's concern heading into the 2012 season.

My biggest concern is at the QB position. Hopefully Brekke has learned alot since his Stagg Bowl run in 2010.

He's undefeated and we have very good QB's battling him too.

I'm most intrigued about the RB position. Do we have an open field threat like Coppage and Beaver?

Yea, he's undefeated....but that can be attributed to great defense and handing the ball off to Coppage in playoffs.

You are funny- you're like glum "oh no, we'll never make it".
You're right that Brekke wasn't asked to do too much BUT- in each of the last three playoff games he had to make huge plays. Vs NCC his passes to Brandes in first quarter were huge plus a TD run. Vs Wesley again big passes to Brandes to answer Wesley's TD. Against Mt- huge passes to Brandes and Huber in second quarter to answer Mt run.
He made some great plays in all the playoff games so I'm VERY confident in him.

I hope you're right....if we can get strong QB play with that returning defense, Mount Union's 11th national title will have to wait another year 

right skunks??!?!

[emma17]

Enough of this silence.
I'll start a 2012 outlook-prognostication thread. 

I would not be surprised to see UWW with a higher scoring offense in 2012.  I know we are losing a great, great group of senior starters in Coppage, Blanchard, Allemand, Olson, Robinson and Ford.  My theory is this:  I believe there was more uncertainty in the offense for 2011 than in almost all of the 6 previous years given the change over in the offensive line and receiver corp.  I believe the uncertainty led to a greater degree of conservative play calling, especially given the play making ability of Coppage and Blanchard.  In effect, I think the always looming "big play" possibility of Coppage along with Blanchard's ability to pick up first downs via the run led to fewer chances taken on the offense.  Granted, Huber had his share of big plays and TD's, but I'm convinced he could have had monster numbers if it was in the game plan.  I also think the other receivers are really, really good and could have also had big numbers.  But again, the presence of Coppage and Blanchard fed into the staff's desire to limit turnovers and win field position (which I am not complaining about).

In 2012, the big play ability of Coppage will be gone as well as the athleticism of Blanchard.  I believe the offense will likely be more diverse.  As such, I believe we will see more points scored because this team has a lot of talent with a pretty good core of Olinemen coming back- and a defense that is young and fast.

Emma

Good to see you in person Friday night and it was fun tipping a few, along with #53 family and talking about the 2011 season and the potential of the 2012 season.   I have a strong tendency to agree with you regarding our offensive potential in 2012.   And our defense will be even stronger, especially the secondary in 2012.   Hope to see more of you this offseason.

WarhawkDad

Great to see you and the group as well WarhawkDad.  That was a welcome surprise and future get togethers sure would be fun and a great way to keep the 2011 memories fresh and the excitement for 2012 going strong.

Hmmmm, got me thinking.  Maybe the FIB's should plan an outing here at a sports bar in a central location to raise a glass to the 2011 champs.  I have been known to tailgate, belly up to the bar, now and again.  Just don't expect me to use my, "indoor voice."     Was planning to try and get together with 15's family anyway.  You boys in?  As the, "gender-challenged," one of the group, I'll do the organizing, of course.    

Did you say raise a glass, belly up and football?  I'm in.

[voice]

UWW is DOOMED! The run is OVER. No running back......marginal QB that learned nothing while he sat on the bench the last year. Sigh......I feel for you guys.

marginal QB led WW to 5 consecutive playoff wins in 2011 including national championship victory over UMU.  U R correct, the sky is falling here in Whitewater. 

[footballfan413]

UWW is DOOMED! The run is OVER. No running back......marginal QB that learned nothing while he sat on the bench the last year. Sigh......I feel for you guys.

marginal QB led WW to 5 consecutive playoff wins in 2011 including national championship victory over UMU.  U R correct, the sky is falling here in Whitewater.

Oh voice, I can pretty much guarantee that Skunks had his tongue planted very firmly in cheek when he wrote that post.