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Quote from: ScreamingEagles on October 01, 2012, 11:54:01 AM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on October 01, 2012, 11:30:00 AM

- WIAC race will come down to Whitewater, Oshkosh, Platteville and La Crosse.


As tough as it is to admit it, I would have to agree with all those. With maybe the exception being to include La Crosse in the conference race, unless the other three teams fall on hard times.


I would say it's a bit premature to include LAX in the WIAC race.  They've played well at times, but with their inconsistent offense I'm not quite a believer yet.  A strong performance and a win this weekend against Platteville would go a long way to putting UWL in the thick of the title hunt.
I believe the UWL defense will keep UWL in the game.  It all depends on the UWL offense (sounds  little like I am talking about UWW   8-) ) and their ability to put some points on the board against a tough Platteville defense.
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Quote from: ScreamingEagles on October 01, 2012, 11:54:01 AM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on October 01, 2012, 11:30:00 AM

- WIAC race will come down to Whitewater, Oshkosh, Platteville and La Crosse.


As tough as it is to admit it, I would have to agree with all those. With maybe the exception being to include La Crosse in the conference race, unless the other three teams fall on hard times.


I would say it's a bit premature to include LAX in the WIAC race.  They've played well at times, but with their inconsistent offense I'm not quite a believer yet.  A strong performance and a win this weekend against Platteville would go a long way to putting UWL in the thick of the title hunt.

A La Crosse win over Oshkosh later in the season wouldn't hurt UWL's and UWW's chances either  ;)

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Quote from: 02 Warhawk on October 01, 2012, 12:02:55 PM
Quote from: ScreamingEagles on October 01, 2012, 11:54:01 AM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on October 01, 2012, 11:30:00 AM

- WIAC race will come down to Whitewater, Oshkosh, Platteville and La Crosse.


As tough as it is to admit it, I would have to agree with all those. With maybe the exception being to include La Crosse in the conference race, unless the other three teams fall on hard times.


I would say it's a bit premature to include LAX in the WIAC race.  They've played well at times, but with their inconsistent offense I'm not quite a believer yet.  A strong performance and a win this weekend against Platteville would go a long way to putting UWL in the thick of the title hunt.

A La Crosse win over Oshkosh later in the season wouldn't hurt UWL's and UWW's chances either  ;)
And it is far enough out that Kelly and/or Anderson might be back???
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Quote from: 02 Warhawk on October 01, 2012, 11:30:00 AM
In today's DIII podcast Pat and Keith had some good thoughts on the WIAC so far this year.

- They both agreed that (at this point) Oshkosh is the best team in the conference. Pat has now been to three of the four UWW games.
- If Kelly didn't get hurt Platteville wins that game.
- Brekke isn't at the same level as previous UWW QBs (Jacobs, Jones, Donovan and Blanchard). Tough time throwing the deep ball and his mobility is very limited.
- Platteville's third string QB was probably the best QB on the field (after Kelly went down of course).
- Front seven of Whitewater is one of the best in the country, but the secondary has given up some yards (bend but don't break, as I like to say).
- Whitewater will have to rely heavily on their rushing attack to make another run at the Stagg Bowl. Ward is good but not exactly the Beaver/Coppage type back. However, Pat was VERY impressed with Nick Patterson. He sees a lot of Justin Beaver in him (and he also wears No. 32).
- WIAC race will come down to Whitewater, Oshkosh, Platteville and La Crosse.
- Mary Harden Baylor is probably the favorite to meet Mount Union in the Stagg Bowl this year. They finally have a passing game to balance our their running attack.

As tough as it is to admit it, I would have to agree with all those. With maybe the exception being to include La Crosse in the conference race, unless the other three teams fall on hard times.

So I guess Whitewater will have to pull of the "upset" on homecoming  ;)   :D

I just remembered. Pat also talked about a possible "missed call" that changed the momentum of the game. I guess Platteville fumbled and gave the ball to Whitewater, but the replay showed that he was clearly down (both knees in fact, not just one).

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Quote from: emma17 on October 01, 2012, 11:51:00 AM
2012 features TBD at running back, TBD at QB, TBD at receivers and a good and developing O-Line.

Who is this TBD Player?  He sonds like an SWEET FB Player.  Can he pass the ball from QB to himself at WR?   ::)
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Quote from: voice on September 30, 2012, 09:50:11 AM
Nick Patterson wears No. 32 (Justin Beaver's former number) and at yesterday's game we were talking about the similar running styles of the two tailbacks.

Nick seems to have that "shake" the Beaver possessed. He also appears have great vision and instinct.

Nick is just a freshman but his upside is huge!


I was very impressed with his play and as you mentioned above, his vision and instince was amazing. I think he should play a lot more going forward and yes he does remind me of Justin Beaver.

emma17

Quote from: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on October 01, 2012, 12:28:25 PM
Quote from: emma17 on October 01, 2012, 11:51:00 AM
2012 features TBD at running back, TBD at QB, TBD at receivers and a good and developing O-Line.

Who is this TBD Player?  He sonds like an SWEET FB Player.  Can he pass the ball from QB to himself at WR?   ::)

You should see him execute the hook and lateral.

WarhawkDad

Quote from: emma17 on October 01, 2012, 01:02:12 PM
Quote from: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on October 01, 2012, 12:28:25 PM
Quote from: emma17 on October 01, 2012, 11:51:00 AM
2012 features TBD at running back, TBD at QB, TBD at receivers and a good and developing O-Line.

Who is this TBD Player?  He sonds like an SWEET FB Player.  Can he pass the ball from QB to himself at WR?   ::)

You should see him execute the hook and lateral.
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Quote from: ScreamingEagles on October 01, 2012, 11:54:01 AM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on October 01, 2012, 11:30:00 AM

- WIAC race will come down to Whitewater, Oshkosh, Platteville and La Crosse.


As tough as it is to admit it, I would have to agree with all those. With maybe the exception being to include La Crosse in the conference race, unless the other three teams fall on hard times.


I would say it's a bit premature to include LAX in the WIAC race.  They've played well at times, but with their inconsistent offense I'm not quite a believer yet.  A strong performance and a win this weekend against Platteville would go a long way to putting UWL in the thick of the title hunt.

I think Keith mentioned La Crosse basically on the strength of their win at North Central.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

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Quote from: 02 Warhawk on October 01, 2012, 12:10:53 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on October 01, 2012, 11:30:00 AM
In today's DIII podcast Pat and Keith had some good thoughts on the WIAC so far this year.

- They both agreed that (at this point) Oshkosh is the best team in the conference. Pat has now been to three of the four UWW games.
- If Kelly didn't get hurt Platteville wins that game.
- Brekke isn't at the same level as previous UWW QBs (Jacobs, Jones, Donovan and Blanchard). Tough time throwing the deep ball and his mobility is very limited.
- Platteville's third string QB was probably the best QB on the field (after Kelly went down of course).
- Front seven of Whitewater is one of the best in the country, but the secondary has given up some yards (bend but don't break, as I like to say).
- Whitewater will have to rely heavily on their rushing attack to make another run at the Stagg Bowl. Ward is good but not exactly the Beaver/Coppage type back. However, Pat was VERY impressed with Nick Patterson. He sees a lot of Justin Beaver in him (and he also wears No. 32).
- WIAC race will come down to Whitewater, Oshkosh, Platteville and La Crosse.
- Mary Harden Baylor is probably the favorite to meet Mount Union in the Stagg Bowl this year. They finally have a passing game to balance our their running attack.

As tough as it is to admit it, I would have to agree with all those. With maybe the exception being to include La Crosse in the conference race, unless the other three teams fall on hard times.

So I guess Whitewater will have to pull of the "upset" on homecoming  ;)   :D

I just remembered. Pat also talked about a possible "missed call" that changed the momentum of the game. I guess Platteville fumbled and gave the ball to Whitewater, but the replay showed that he was clearly down (both knees in fact, not just one).

It might have changed the momentum, not sure. I do think that drive in general is a positive for UWP fans going forward, though. Corrigan led two drives down the stretch that could have resulted in points if needed, although that call cut one short prematurely. But as far as momentum, UWP held UWW to a three-and-out and got the ball back with time and decent field position, so I'm not sure momentum itself really shifted.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

badgerwarhawk

Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 01, 2012, 02:09:45 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on October 01, 2012, 12:10:53 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on October 01, 2012, 11:30:00 AM
In today's DIII podcast Pat and Keith had some good thoughts on the WIAC so far this year.

- They both agreed that (at this point) Oshkosh is the best team in the conference. Pat has now been to three of the four UWW games.
- If Kelly didn't get hurt Platteville wins that game.
- Brekke isn't at the same level as previous UWW QBs (Jacobs, Jones, Donovan and Blanchard). Tough time throwing the deep ball and his mobility is very limited.
- Platteville's third string QB was probably the best QB on the field (after Kelly went down of course).
- Front seven of Whitewater is one of the best in the country, but the secondary has given up some yards (bend but don't break, as I like to say).
- Whitewater will have to rely heavily on their rushing attack to make another run at the Stagg Bowl. Ward is good but not exactly the Beaver/Coppage type back. However, Pat was VERY impressed with Nick Patterson. He sees a lot of Justin Beaver in him (and he also wears No. 32).
- WIAC race will come down to Whitewater, Oshkosh, Platteville and La Crosse.
- Mary Harden Baylor is probably the favorite to meet Mount Union in the Stagg Bowl this year. They finally have a passing game to balance our their running attack.

As tough as it is to admit it, I would have to agree with all those. With maybe the exception being to include La Crosse in the conference race, unless the other three teams fall on hard times.

So I guess Whitewater will have to pull of the "upset" on homecoming  ;)   :D

I just remembered. Pat also talked about a possible "missed call" that changed the momentum of the game. I guess Platteville fumbled and gave the ball to Whitewater, but the replay showed that he was clearly down (both knees in fact, not just one).

It might have changed the momentum, not sure. I do think that drive in general is a positive for UWP fans going forward, though. Corrigan led two drives down the stretch that could have resulted in points if needed, although that call cut one short prematurely. But as far as momentum, UWP held UWW to a three-and-out and got the ball back with time and decent field position, so I'm not sure momentum itself really shifted.

Pat, you must have read my mind (or is it a case of great minds thinking alike) :D because that was my thought exactly.  The play may or may not have changed the outcome but it didn't change the momentum Platteville had going.  After holding us to a three and out they took their next drive to the end zone.  I wonder if the momentum they had going for them wasn't one of the main factors in their coaching staff's decision to go for the two point conversion.  I've always thought that conventional wisdom dictated going for the tie at home, the win on the road. 

Whatever I know I breathed a heavy sigh of relief when it was unsuccessful.
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Perhaps. I think that with a backup quarterback, going against a team that had a superior kicker, perhaps UWP was not in a particularly strong position going into OT and wanted to end it in regulation.

There's more on that and other endings like it in the podcast.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

emma17

Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 01, 2012, 02:59:22 PM
Perhaps. I think that with a backup quarterback, going against a team that had a superior kicker, perhaps UWP was not in a particularly strong position going into OT and wanted to end it in regulation.

There's more on that and other endings like it in the podcast.

You and Keith both did a nice job on the podcast - your points on UWW were honest and fair-  Although, do you have to sound so disgusted that you've seen 3 UWW games this year?  :)

UWL may not challenge for the title, but I do think there is a good chance down the road we will be talking about how they impacted the final results- much as they did last year vs. UWO. 

 

Pat Coleman

Quote from: emma17 on October 01, 2012, 03:12:36 PM
You and Keith both did a nice job on the podcast - your points on UWW were honest and fair-  Although, do you have to sound so disgusted that you've seen 3 UWW games this year?  :)

Go read the OAC board for the reaction there and you might understand why this was not in the original plan. :)
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#30824
Quote from: D O.C. on October 01, 2012, 02:40:54 AM
At this point,I don't think either of us could beat Mary at home.
UMU will get the east again.

Maybe I'm wrong, but in the past Mount has gone East when there was an abundance of undefeated, 1 seed caliber teams in the North and West, and no good candidates from the East itself.

The West has some quality undefeated teams left. But the highest ranked of the lot, Linfield, isn't getting shipped North. UWO still has UWP, UWW, UWL and UWSP to play. Bethel, St. Thomas and Concordia still have to play each other in the MIAC. I don't see an undefeated WIAC champ at seasons end. Best bet would be from the MIAC, but this isn't nearly as clear cut as years past either.

IWU seems to be the lone unbeaten, highly ranked North squad. And they've still got NCC and Wheaton to play. Less than 50/50 they get through the CCIW unscathed.

If Mount does go undefeated, it means there's no other candidate for a #1 North seed coming from the OAC. Wabash has lost. Wittenberg's a possibility I guess.

And you've still got SJF and Hobart undefeated in the East. I doubt SJF survives the E8 unscathed. But Hobart could definitely finish unbeaten in the LL.

All that to say, it's way to early to assume Mount gets shipped East. You need a good mix of a weak East and at least 2 worthy undefeated teams in both the North and West. Maybe, but not as likely as years past.