FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[emma17]

It's easy to pile on Brekke, but what happened to Pound the Rock? Another OL was injured at the end of the 2nd quarter and left the field on crutches. The offense gained 46 yards in the first quarter, just over 100 at the half, and just over 150 at the end of the 3rd quarter.

You usually see 46 yards rushing in the first possession. But I don't think Ward or Patterson are scaring anybody at this point in the season. Patterson may become a top RB, but I saw nothing Saturday to merit some of the acclaim he has gotten. With a running game that can't makes plays out of nothing, teams don't have to put that 8th defender in the box. I've seen the running game shut down for part of the game, but not the whole game. I don't think UWW had a scoring drive over 30 yards.

The receivers dropped several easy passes. It wasn't just one of them, they all participated in the drops. I don't see a go to receiver, although I don't know why they don't target Morris more. Yeah, Brekke isn't accurate on short passes. He threw a couple nice long balls that were well covered.
Behrendt played a nice game, but he also had a fumble. He does have good speed, whereas Brekke got caught by a DT. And, UWRF was woeful. I think they had 3 fumbles and 3 interceptions from their offense. Then, there was their kicking game. I think the sequence was a botched punt (on a high but catchable snap), then a poorly timed and executed fake punt deep in their territory, and then a fumble on a kickoff. All lead to short TD drives. When Behrendt came in for the last TD, I thought that UWRF had checked out at that point.

The running game has to be key from the first series.

The running game this year has definately not been the weapon it has in past years.  Ward IMO is too big to be a game breaker and Paterson is just a freshman.  The O-line is not dominating the line of scrimmage to the point that running yards are easy to come by. 
Part of the reason of course is the passing game isn't enough of a threat.  I think I created a misconception about Brekke's short passing game in an earlier post.  I'm not saying he can't throw the short pass.  Brekke's touch on the underneath route such as the tight end curl or cross or the running back swing route, which are "short" distance passes, is lacking.  He puts too much heat on the close passes.  As for his long ball, yes he has a strong arm.  His accuracy on the long ball has been inconsistent.  He has one dropped yesterday, but he also badly overthrew a ball in the first series of the game and badly overthrew Tamsett on a deep sideline route- both of these plays are likely touchdowns. 

Behrendt's fumble on the shotgun snap- anyone think that gets corrected with game reps? 
 

[emma17]

Look, for those that have either felt there is a "piling on", or "armchair quarterbacking" because someone didn't "strap on the helmet" or "develop game plans" or that we should just leave well enough alone since UWW is 4-1, know this:
-In yesterday's game there was a change in the starters on the O-line to try and get more production.
-Since the start of the season we have seen a number of running backs get carries, as UWW searches for the best 1 and 2.
-Since the start of the season multiple tight ends have been used.
-Since the start of the season it's been obvious UWW doesn't have a great receiver corp. 
-Since the start of the season the offense has struggled in every single game, and there hasn't been one single player that has stepped up to become a play making leader.
-The one constant throughout, since the start of the season, is Brekke.
-Through yesterday Brekke is 63 of 123 for 5 touchdowns and 4 interceptions (one was a pick 6 against UWP- a game that desparately needed an offensive player to make a play).  I agree there have been dropped passes and some poorly run routes.  However, I have paid close attention and I've seen first hand many, many poor passes that have directly impacted UWW's ability to move the chains and ultimately to score.  If you've paid attention, you've seen many overthrown long balls that would have been touchdowns with better accuracy. You have seen a QB that struggles to escape the rush and struggles with seeing the whole field.  A perfect example is the first series of yesterday's game.  UWW has a deep post from one receiver and a post corner from another. The deep post was open and it is an easier throw.  He chose the post corner and threw it out of bounds.  These are points left on the field - for an offense that cannot afford to leave points on the field. 

The risk of bringing in a more mobile QB with potential at this point in the season is minimal. 

[bleedpurple]

Look, for those that have either felt there is a "piling on", or "armchair quarterbacking" because someone didn't "strap on the helmet" or "develop game plans" or that we should just leave well enough alone since UWW is 4-1, know this:
-In yesterday's game there was a change in the starters on the O-line to try and get more production.
-Since the start of the season we have seen a number of running backs get carries, as UWW searches for the best 1 and 2.
-Since the start of the season multiple tight ends have been used.
-Since the start of the season it's been obvious UWW doesn't have a great receiver corp. 
-Since the start of the season the offense has struggled in every single game, and there hasn't been one single player that has stepped up to become a play making leader.
-The one constant throughout, since the start of the season, is Brekke.
-Through yesterday Brekke is 63 of 123 for 5 touchdowns and 4 interceptions (one was a pick 6 against UWP- a game that desparately needed an offensive player to make a play).  I agree there have been dropped passes and some poorly run routes.  However, I have paid close attention and I've seen first hand many, many poor passes that have directly impacted UWW's ability to move the chains and ultimately to score.  If you've paid attention, you've seen many overthrown long balls that would have been touchdowns with better accuracy. You have seen a QB that struggles to escape the rush and struggles with seeing the whole field.  A perfect example is the first series of yesterday's game.  UWW has a deep post from one receiver and a post corner from another. The deep post was open and it is an easier throw.  He chose the post corner and threw it out of bounds.  These are points left on the field - for an offense that cannot afford to leave points on the field. 

The risk of bringing in a more mobile QB with potential at this point in the season is minimal.

Easy, Emma. It's only Sunday. 

[Sakman 1111]

I agree with 02 that the Stout game maybe the opportunity to see what some key position players can do......Have watched recently QBs like Bogardt,Jacobs,Jones,Donovan,and Blanchard who were all excellent,exemplary running backs like Beaver and Coppage,and a great crew of wide receivers. It appears the Warhawks may not have that kind of talent this year at those positions but who knows unless some of the new blood gets a chance...I have faith in our superb coaching staff that they will  decide on the correct direction to take.....Pound the Rock......My best to Tommy P. Sorry the Goo Crew missed your day at the Perk.......

[GBMAN]

Look, for those that have either felt there is a "piling on", or "armchair quarterbacking" because someone didn't "strap on the helmet" or "develop game plans" or that we should just leave well enough alone since UWW is 4-1, know this:
-In yesterday's game there was a change in the starters on the O-line to try and get more production.
-Since the start of the season we have seen a number of running backs get carries, as UWW searches for the best 1 and 2.
-Since the start of the season multiple tight ends have been used.
-Since the start of the season it's been obvious UWW doesn't have a great receiver corp. 
-Since the start of the season the offense has struggled in every single game, and there hasn't been one single player that has stepped up to become a play making leader.
-The one constant throughout, since the start of the season, is Brekke.
-Through yesterday Brekke is 63 of 123 for 5 touchdowns and 4 interceptions (one was a pick 6 against UWP- a game that desparately needed an offensive player to make a play).  I agree there have been dropped passes and some poorly run routes.  However, I have paid close attention and I've seen first hand many, many poor passes that have directly impacted UWW's ability to move the chains and ultimately to score.  If you've paid attention, you've seen many overthrown long balls that would have been touchdowns with better accuracy. You have seen a QB that struggles to escape the rush and struggles with seeing the whole field.  A perfect example is the first series of yesterday's game.  UWW has a deep post from one receiver and a post corner from another. The deep post was open and it is an easier throw.  He chose the post corner and threw it out of bounds.  These are points left on the field - for an offense that cannot afford to leave points on the field. 

The risk of bringing in a more mobile QB with potential at this point in the season is minimal.

Easy, Emma. It's only Sunday. 

But he's right Bleed.

[Olinemom]

Was the Fundraising Event for Tommy P. only for this past Saturday or is it possible for those of us who couldn't be there to still contribute?  I'm coming to the Homecoming game (actually from the 18th thru the 22) and I would really like to contribute to this very worthy cause.  Please somebody let me know.  Thanks!! I'm so looking forward to my first ever visit to Whitewater!

[bleedpurple]

Look, for those that have either felt there is a "piling on", or "armchair quarterbacking" because someone didn't "strap on the helmet" or "develop game plans" or that we should just leave well enough alone since UWW is 4-1, know this:
-In yesterday's game there was a change in the starters on the O-line to try and get more production.
-Since the start of the season we have seen a number of running backs get carries, as UWW searches for the best 1 and 2.
-Since the start of the season multiple tight ends have been used.
-Since the start of the season it's been obvious UWW doesn't have a great receiver corp. 
-Since the start of the season the offense has struggled in every single game, and there hasn't been one single player that has stepped up to become a play making leader.
-The one constant throughout, since the start of the season, is Brekke.
-Through yesterday Brekke is 63 of 123 for 5 touchdowns and 4 interceptions (one was a pick 6 against UWP- a game that desparately needed an offensive player to make a play).  I agree there have been dropped passes and some poorly run routes.  However, I have paid close attention and I've seen first hand many, many poor passes that have directly impacted UWW's ability to move the chains and ultimately to score.  If you've paid attention, you've seen many overthrown long balls that would have been touchdowns with better accuracy. You have seen a QB that struggles to escape the rush and struggles with seeing the whole field.  A perfect example is the first series of yesterday's game.  UWW has a deep post from one receiver and a post corner from another. The deep post was open and it is an easier throw.  He chose the post corner and threw it out of bounds.  These are points left on the field - for an offense that cannot afford to leave points on the field. 

The risk of bringing in a more mobile QB with potential at this point in the season is minimal.

Easy, Emma. It's only Sunday. 

But he's right Bleed.

Oh, I don't disagree with any of his post. I just want him to survive the week! 

Emma, I think you make some great observations.  The only question I have is who you are addressing.  I may have missed it, but I haven't seen one single person say they would not support the coaches if they made a change to Behrendt.  I've called for perspective. Someone might have suggested that in our posts, we should not be too hard on Brekke along the way (primarily because he is a college kid doing his best by all accounts).  But I haven't seen anyone say they don't want to see Behrendt get meaningful snaps or they wouldn't support the coaches if they made a decision to start him.

[02 Warhawk]

Inside the Box Scores: Week Six

[02 Warhawk]

Agreed.  It doesn't bode well when looking at the conference stats you see that UWW is last in passing offense.

Coming into this game, UWW played a program that has the worst pass defense in the conference...and they were only able to get 94 yards passing!!!! I don't care who's fault it is. Brekke? Offensive line? Wide receivers? Play calling?

That's just unacceptable.

[badgerwarhawk]

Was the Fundraising Event for Tommy P. only for this past Saturday or is it possible for those of us who couldn't be there to still contribute?  I'm coming to the Homecoming game (actually from the 18th thru the 22) and I would really like to contribute to this very worthy cause.  Please somebody let me know.  Thanks!! I'm so looking forward to my first ever visit to Whitewater!

Donations in support of the Team Tom Cancer Fund can be made at the Commercial Bank in Whitewater, in person or by mail. Commercial Bank is located at 200 South Fremont Street in Whitewater, 53190. The bank phone number is 262-473-1111.

Your contribution will be greatly appreciated, Olinemom.  Anyone else who hasn't already contributed and would like to may do so by mailing a check to the bank and/or contacting them directly.  Thanks

[couchp54]

Did anyone watch the Oshkosh/UWEC game on-line?  Did you have to pay to watch it?

I don't know what to say about UWEC.  Good Lord.  Every year same thing.  They start out with promise, then seem to go downhill as the season wears on.  Neu seems to hang on to the ball too long. Even when receivers are open down field, he seems reluctant to throw.  Not sure what's going on with that.  It seems he has good receivers.  Not sure some of the younger receivers are blocking as well.  But of course, without film to watch or instant replay, it is hard to really absorb what one sees so take my observations with a grain of salt.
But Oshkosh looks to be a good team. 

[emma17]

Easy, Emma. It's only Sunday. 

But he's right Bleed.
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Oh, I don't disagree with any of his post. I just want him to survive the week! 

Emma, I think you make some great observations.  The only question I have is who you are addressing.  I may have missed it, but I haven't seen one single person say they would not support the coaches if they made a change to Behrendt.  I've called for perspective. Someone might have suggested that in our posts, we should not be too hard on Brekke along the way (primarily because he is a college kid doing his best by all accounts).  But I haven't seen anyone say they don't want to see Behrendt get meaningful snaps or they wouldn't support the coaches if they made a decision to start him.
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For the most part I'm just venting.  You're right Bleed, I'll need to get on another subject lest I suffer spontaneous human combustion- nothing left but an ash pile in front of the computer monitor with a partially completed post on the WIAC board.  For the record, whatever I post in support of trying a new quarterback is not a personal attack on Lee Brekke, nor am I blindly in support of Behrendt.  Brekke's skill set for the condition this offense is in may simply not be the best match.   

UW Stout appears to be similar in style (not as accomplished) as UWO, the QB is one of the leading rushers.  I like UWW's D against an offense like that. 

[02 Warhawk]

UW Stout appears to be similar in style (not as accomplished) as UWO, the QB is one of the leading rushers.  I like UWW's D against an offense like that.

I don't like Stout's defense against our offense though. If we thought River Falls was tough to throw on...lookout.

Stout will have the best defense we've faced all year. This might be a 7-6 game (hopefully we're on the winning end of it this time).

[ncc58]

I agree with 02 that the Stout game maybe the opportunity to see what some key position players can do......Have watched recently QBs like Bogardt,Jacobs,Jones,Donovan,and Blanchard who were all excellent,exemplary running backs like Beaver and Coppage,and a great crew of wide receivers. It appears the Warhawks may not have that kind of talent this year at those positions but who knows unless some of the new blood gets a chance...I have faith in our superb coaching staff that they will  decide on the correct direction to take.....Pound the Rock......My best to Tommy P. Sorry the Goo Crew missed your day at the Perk.......

Shouldn't the time to see some other players perform been last Saturday, not against Stout. Stout has already beaten UWRF UWRF is at the bottom of the conference, and UWW let them hang around for 3 quarters. If the offense performs at the same level, it could be a close game. Don't expect Stout to turn the ball over in the same way as UWRF.

Emma is correct. When Behrendt came into the game, other starters were still in the game. At the time, I thought it was because Brekke had taken a couple good hits on the previous possession. But, we may learn more on the LL show this week.

UWW has enough talent to beat Oshkosh, win the conference, and go back to the playoffs (who would have questioned that two months ago?). But once they get past the first round, the games will be more difficult without a strong, balanced offense.

I was very impressed with the support for voice. You obviously mean a lot to a lot of people.

[ncc58]

UW Stout appears to be similar in style (not as accomplished) as UWO, the QB is one of the leading rushers.  I like UWW's D against an offense like that.

I don't like Stout's defense against our offense though. If we thought River Falls was tough to throw on...lookout.

Stout will have the best defense we've faced all year. This might be a 7-6 game (hopefully we're on the winning end of it this time).

I was going to add to my post that after Stout reviews the game film, they may come out with a very conservative game plan - thinking that it will be a low scoring game. Don't make mistakes  and see what happens.