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couchp54

Quote from: pg04 on November 12, 2012, 06:08:25 PM
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Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 12, 2012, 05:47:04 PM
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Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 12, 2012, 02:52:51 PM
Correct. The field is meant to have all the conference champions and the best (seven, this year) at-large bids. No NCAA Tournament bracket has the best 32, 64 or 68 teams in it, on any level.
...and that's a shame IMHO

Well, but it is an NCAA Tournament. This should not be a surprise. The Atlantic Sun and MEAC and MAAC champion wouldn't be in the Top 68 of Division I most given years but they all get into the D-I basketball field.
Whatever the reasoning...still a shame.  This is where I start zoning out.  My team's not in the playoffs and the first couple rounds are usually not that interesting to anyone outside of the parents because the best teams are not necessarily in the playoffs and many games are so lopsided.  (There are exceptions, of course.)  I'll be rooting for UWO of course and may watch them on line if they are still in it a couple games down the road.  GO TITANS!

I actually find the first couple rounds to be more interesting. Once you get to the Final 4, it's pretty much the same combination of teams (This year UWW is missing but there is still Linfield, UMU, ST Thomas, and MHB). My biggest complaint over the last decade has been the lack of diversity in the final. At least we know ONE of the teams will be different this year (I know this isn't popular HERE, and I'm not trying to bad mouth UWW by any means it's just nice to know there will be at least one new team in the Stagg)
I agree with you on the predictability.  But it wouldn't be so predictable if more of the top teams were in the playoffs.  The Final 4 teams would have more competition all along the way (and we know many of their games are not competitive) which leads to more upsets and more interesting games. 

02 Warhawk

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Inside the Box Scores final posting

If you only look at one game on this post, check out the disparity in offensive numbers between UWP and UWSP. I don't think I've ever seen a game this one sided in the WIAC before.  :o

Also, I plan on doing a peice on what to expect from St. Scholastica later in the week.

HScoach

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 13, 2012, 11:45:28 AM
Trying not to look too far ahead...but I'm thinking about coming up for the UWO game if Bethel can knock off Concordia-Chicago.

That should be a good one.

I'd be very surprised if Bethel puts up much of a fight.  Bethel was one of the worst ever semi-final opponents Mount has ever had in 2010 and supposedly this isn't one of Bethel's better teams.   

Oshkosh fans can make plans for the regional final today.  The winner of the Linfield/Oshkosh showdown is in the Stagg against either Mount, MHB or Wesley.
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02 Warhawk

Quote from: HScoach on November 13, 2012, 12:39:14 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 13, 2012, 11:45:28 AM
Trying not to look too far ahead...but I'm thinking about coming up for the UWO game if Bethel can knock off Concordia-Chicago.

That should be a good one.

I'd be very surprised if Bethel puts up much of a fight.  Bethel was one of the worst ever semi-final opponents Mount has ever had in 2010 and supposedly this isn't one of Bethel's better teams.   

Oshkosh fans can make plans for the regional final today.  The winner of the Linfield/Oshkosh showdown is in the Stagg against either Mount, MHB or Wesley.

I just got done posting a comment on the MIAC boards, that if it wasn't for Concordia Moorhead players running prematurely out onto the field...Bethel would not be in the playoffs.

I think UWO will beat Bethel...as would UWP  ;)

emma17

Quote from: HScoach on November 13, 2012, 12:39:14 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 13, 2012, 11:45:28 AM
Trying not to look too far ahead...but I'm thinking about coming up for the UWO game if Bethel can knock off Concordia-Chicago.

That should be a good one.

I'd be very surprised if Bethel puts up much of a fight.  Bethel was one of the worst ever semi-final opponents Mount has ever had in 2010 and supposedly this isn't one of Bethel's better teams.   

Oshkosh fans can make plans for the regional final today.  The winner of the Linfield/Oshkosh showdown is in the Stagg against either Mount, MHB or Wesley.

I hope you're right coach - for two reasons. I want UWO to have great success and I think Concordia should have been selected over Bethel.
If I recall, I think the Bethel team Mt played not only couldn't pass, but they couldn't even kick extra points. (although they did beat Wheaton). 

Pat Coleman

Quote from: emma17 on November 13, 2012, 01:15:17 PM
Quote from: HScoach on November 13, 2012, 12:39:14 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 13, 2012, 11:45:28 AM
Trying not to look too far ahead...but I'm thinking about coming up for the UWO game if Bethel can knock off Concordia-Chicago.

That should be a good one.

I'd be very surprised if Bethel puts up much of a fight.  Bethel was one of the worst ever semi-final opponents Mount has ever had in 2010 and supposedly this isn't one of Bethel's better teams.   

Oshkosh fans can make plans for the regional final today.  The winner of the Linfield/Oshkosh showdown is in the Stagg against either Mount, MHB or Wesley.

I hope you're right coach - for two reasons. I want UWO to have great success and I think Concordia should have been selected over Bethel.
If I recall, I think the Bethel team Mt played not only couldn't pass, but they couldn't even kick extra points. (although they did beat Wheaton).

Bethel is much better at both of those aspects of the game in 2012. But ... well, I said the other stuff on the podcast. :)
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couchp54

Why was the Oshkosh/Stout game as close as it was?  Did Oshkosh pull its starter?

02 Warhawk

Quote from: couchp54 on November 13, 2012, 02:08:03 PM
Why was the Oshkosh/Stout game as close as it was?  Did Oshkosh pull its starter?

Stout did a great job of controlling the game, especially in the second quarter. Running back Eric Brown was getting 5.7 yards/carry and finished with 136 yards. The game would have been even closer if Stout made all three of their FGs...instead of just one.

emma17

Quote from: couchp54 on November 13, 2012, 02:08:03 PM
Why was the Oshkosh/Stout game as close as it was?  Did Oshkosh pull its starter?

Because Oshkosh sucks!  I'm done with them.

Seriously, I watched some of it on the video stream.  I won't pretend to know what was in the player's minds in terms of focus, but it did look to me like Stout was playing faster than UWO in the second quarter.  Also, I don't think Mr. Wara ran with the ball much in the first half- for obvious reasons.  In the second half, it seemed the old Mr. Wara came out to play as UWO realized it needed to put Stout away.     
 


hazzben

Quote from: HScoach on November 13, 2012, 12:39:14 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 13, 2012, 11:45:28 AM
Trying not to look too far ahead...but I'm thinking about coming up for the UWO game if Bethel can knock off Concordia-Chicago.

That should be a good one.

I'd be very surprised if Bethel puts up much of a fight.  Bethel was one of the worst ever semi-final opponents Mount has ever had in 2010 and supposedly this isn't one of Bethel's better teams.   

Oshkosh fans can make plans for the regional final today.  The winner of the Linfield/Oshkosh showdown is in the Stagg against either Mount, MHB or Wesley.

First, I can only hope UWO coaches and players start making plans like you suggest  ;)

Second, I think you're mistaking the 2010 game for the 2007 game. We lost 34-14 in 2010. Cecil Shorts had a field day, but given his current surroundings, that's not a huge knock on Bethel. But that team actually led Mt. early. No, the game wasn't close, but that team could also kick PAT's and the Mount MOV wasn't that much different from several other semifinal opponents.

In 2007, what gets frequently overlooked is that Bethel played without our team and MIAC MVP quarterback, Wetzel. We got trounced by Mount. And if Wetzel played, we still get beat badly. But ask guys and coaches who follow the MIAC and they'll tell you Wetzel was a player. And he was the heart and soul of that offense/team. When he separated his throwing shoulder against Central in the 4th of the quarterfinals it spelled doom for our chances of playing with Mount. He valiantly tried to play the first series but was in clear pain. And keep in mind, before UWW 'upset' them in the Stagg that year, the 2007 team was being billed as Mounts best ever. Funny, they said the same things about the 2003 team that SJU upset.  :)

As for this current team v. 2010. Apples to oranges. 2010 had a better defense and oline and an elite running back in Flannery. This team has a much more balanced offense and better WR's. We'll see in the next few weeks how the 2012 version stacks up with 2010. But 2010 was also filled with Sr. leaders at key positions. This team is much younger and dominated by sophomores and juniors.

couchp54

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 13, 2012, 02:13:31 PM
Quote from: couchp54 on November 13, 2012, 02:08:03 PM
Why was the Oshkosh/Stout game as close as it was?  Did Oshkosh pull its starter?

Stout did a great job of controlling the game, especially in the second quarter. Running back Eric Brown was getting 5.7 yards/carry and finished with 136 yards. The game would have been even closer if Stout made all three of their FGs...instead of just one.

Yep - just proves the point - in WIAC it certainly is any given Saturday.....

KitchenSink

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 13, 2012, 11:45:28 AM
Trying not to look too far ahead...but I'm thinking about coming up for the UWO game if Bethel can knock off Concordia-Chicago.

That should be a good one.

Was thinking possibly the same thing, 02.  If the weather is decent, probably will make the trip.
What the hell was that?  That was a Drop-kick.  Drop-kick? How much is that worth?  Three points.  THREE POINTS?!

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What the hell was that?  That was a Drop-kick.  Drop-kick? How much is that worth?  Three points.  THREE POINTS?!

bleedpurple

Quote from: emma17 on November 13, 2012, 03:11:26 PM
Quote from: couchp54 on November 13, 2012, 02:08:03 PM
Why was the Oshkosh/Stout game as close as it was?  Did Oshkosh pull its starter?

Because Oshkosh sucks!  I'm done with them.

Seriously, I watched some of it on the video stream.  I won't pretend to know what was in the player's minds in terms of focus, but it did look to me like Stout was playing faster than UWO in the second quarter.  Also, I don't think Mr. Wara ran with the ball much in the first half- for obvious reasons.  In the second half, it seemed the old Mr. Wara came out to play as UWO realized it needed to put Stout away.     

You and I both know, Emma, that UW-O simply makes adjustments whenever they are challenged and put the game away. It's just the way they roll!  ;)

bleedpurple

Quote from: emma17 on November 13, 2012, 03:11:26 PM
Quote from: couchp54 on November 13, 2012, 02:08:03 PM
Why was the Oshkosh/Stout game as close as it was?  Did Oshkosh pull its starter?

Because Oshkosh sucks!  I'm done with them.

Seriously, I watched some of it on the video stream.  I won't pretend to know what was in the player's minds in terms of focus, but it did look to me like Stout was playing faster than UWO in the second quarter.  Also, I don't think Mr. Wara ran with the ball much in the first half- for obvious reasons.  In the second half, it seemed the old Mr. Wara came out to play as UWO realized it needed to put Stout away.     


You and I both know, Emma, that UW-O simply makes adjustments whenever they are challenged and puts the game away. It's just the way they roll!  ;)