FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[voice]

Good luck to UW-Whitewater's Jake Kumerow and Matt Behrendt who will be participating in UW's NFL Pro Day tomorrow in Madison

[BoBo]

Just read that the NCAA's Playing Rules Oversight Panel has tabled a proposal to move the illegal receiver downfield threshold from three yards to one. The proposal from the NCAA Football Rules Committee would have allowed ineligible receivers not engaged with an opponent to advance only 1 yard past the line of scrimmage at the time a pass is released. It is the same rule used in the NFL. Found this interesting because when I re-watched the '14 Stagg Bowl the other night, I noticed UWW had at least 2 o-lineman well past 3 yards downfield when Behrendt released the ball without engaging a Mount defender on the Moore 75 yd TD screen pass. They were both looking around for someone to block and no one was near them. I don't think they touched anyone now that I think about it. I believe it was Peters, in fact, who was at least 6 yards into the secondary when the pass was released. That key play, just after Mount had taken their first lead in the game, should have been flagged and taken back. I'm quite surprised that no one saw it - especially the ESPN announcers or any of the smart guys on this website.

Among the rule changes approved for 2015 that I like is a 15-yard unsportsmanlike foul will be called on players who push or pull opponents off piles – for example, after fumbles. I think it's well overdue.

I believe lineman are allowed downfield as long as the pass is behind the line of scrimmage.

On further review, Moore was 1 yard behind the LOS when he caught the pass...so nevermind about the whole thing. 

Along these same lines- I'm curious as to your thoughts and other's thoughts as to the Mt TD pass to Meacham that was dislodged in the end zone.

I thought originally that he had the ball firmly under control when he crossed the plane of the goal and any bobble and McLin's swipe play to dislodge it came after that, a couple steps inside the goal line. I thought the real-time call that it was incomplete was wrong. So the fact that it was overturned by replay was correct, in my view. I know the NCAA officials guru (Rogers or something) on the broadcast said otherwise, but I couldn't see what he was seeing. I thought it was a TD.

[bulk19]

Good luck to UW-Whitewater's Jake Kumerow and Matt Behrendt who will be participating in UW's NFL Pro Day tomorrow in Madison

I'll take Thurgood Dennis in the 40... 

[bleedpurple]

Good luck to UW-Whitewater's Jake Kumerow and Matt Behrendt who will be participating in UW's NFL Pro Day tomorrow in Madison

I'll take Thurgood Dennis in the 40... 

I'll take Jake in a jump ball type pass on the sideline or a fade in the end zone. 

[bleedpurple]

Along these same lines- I'm curious as to your thoughts and other's thoughts as to the Mt TD pass to Meacham that was dislodged in the end zone.

I spoke with the Big 10 Supervisor of Officials who was in Salem. He was in the NCAA Hospitality Room at the Roanoke Hotel and that play was a hot topic of conversation in the post-game gathering. He said they blew the replay call.  He cited one of the more common mistakes replay officials make (he was a top official in the NFL as well). He said the replay officials need to make the decisions on real speed replays when it comes to complete/incomplete replays.  Too many replay officials look at a play in slow motion, which sometimes makes an incompletion look like a completion.

[Old Gold]

Good luck to all three....they reprsent the heart of DIII and the strength of the WIAC and all those who sut up on .saturdays.  It's not easy getting into the Pro Day, even for a Badger.  Youneed a minimum if three pro teams asking to see you work out.  This year we have three guys representing.  Thank you Bulk for recognizing there is more to the conference than UWW...even on this board.  Good luck again to All three...they are sweeating it out tonight.  Hoping, praying, replaying every drill over and over.  Let's give them our voice of support.....and more importantly our respect..not our Digs and dissing. 

[BoBo]

Good luck to all three....they reprsent the heart of DIII and the strength of the WIAC and all those who sut up on .saturdays.  It's not easy getting into the Pro Day, even for a Badger.  Youneed a minimum if three pro teams asking to see you work out.  This year we have three guys representing.  Thank you Bulk BoBo for recognizing there is more to the conference than UWW...even on this board.  Good luck again to All three...they are sweeating it out tonight.  Hoping, praying, replaying every drill over and over.  Let's give them our voice of support.....and more importantly our respect..not our Digs and dissing.

   
First of all, I corrected your post (really highlighted it as well! ) to accurately reflect who initially recognized these three WIAC ball players invited to the Badgers' Pro Day on March 11 on this board. No, it wasn't your buddy bulk BTW, sorry to inform you.  Whitewater guys and gals do recognize other student/athletes when it matters the most, when they have some information to offer. So before you start making wild-ass declarations ("not our Digs and dissing" excuse me? where did that come from Mr. "I've made 9 posts so I can complain" Blu?), maybe it would be worth your time to actually read some first and actually post something about Eau Claire on a consistant basis so the board is aware of what's happening around Blugold-land. Then again, maybe this is the only thing that's happened since the end of the season.  For example, you could've found this nugget only 2 pages back (I bolded the best part for you):

Matt Behrendt and Jake Kumerow from UWW expected at UW Badgers Pro Day on March 11 at the McClain Center in Madison. Thurgood Dennis from UWEC, also on the list with 8 present or former Badgers players. Don't know the starting time, but not open to the public anyway. 

Source: UWBadgers Twitter account

Anyway thanks for coming by and have a nice summer and fall.  I guess we'll see another post from you...around...what?...mid November at your current rate of posting?  Be sure to tell us who was dissing your beloved Blugolds. It's people like you who only come on here once in a blue moon to complain when you have every opportunity to do something about it, but never do. Later dude.   

[bleedpurple]

A Post-season content update for Warhawkfootball.com:

Four Post-season photo galleries. More pics were added to #4 last night. More galleries will be added through the off-season.

Links to an article on Coach Erickson and another article on Coach Bullis posted last night in "In Case You Missed It."

www.warhawkfootball.com

[Just Bill]

If we're going to get territorial about it, I beat Bobo to the news by almost 10 hours....

Three WIAC players expected to participate in the Badgers Pro Day in Madison on March 11:

https://twitter.com/BadgerFootball/status/573196453960683520

[bulk19]

If we're going to get territorial about it, I beat Bobo to the news by almost 10 hours....

Three WIAC players expected to participate in the Badgers Pro Day in Madison on March 11:

https://twitter.com/BadgerFootball/status/573196453960683520

Jeez, Mr. 3501 Posts - your post must have been lost amongst all the UWW posts... 

[bulk19]

Hey Booobo - You're lucky you don't suffer from acrophobia... Do you need a step ladder when  you get on your high horse? Quite picking on us and go back to analyzing film...

[bulk19]

Three WIAC players expected to participate in the Badgers Pro Day in Madison on March 11:

https://twitter.com/BadgerFootball/status/573196453960683520

Best of luck to them.

Does anyone have information about Thurgood Dennis?

Answered my own question:

http://www.blugolds.com/sports/fball/2014-15/bios/dennis_thurgood_4m65

Ask Bobo...

[emma17]

Along these same lines- I'm curious as to your thoughts and other's thoughts as to the Mt TD pass to Meacham that was dislodged in the end zone.

I spoke with the Big 10 Supervisor of Officials who was in Salem. He was in the NCAA Hospitality Room at the Roanoke Hotel and that play was a hot topic of conversation in the post-game gathering. He said they blew the replay call.  He cited one of the more common mistakes replay officials make (he was a top official in the NFL as well). He said the replay officials need to make the decisions on real speed replays when it comes to complete/incomplete replays.  Too many replay officials look at a play in slow motion, which sometimes makes an incompletion look like a completion.

Continuing this:
I don't know if that play is a "process of the catch" situation as I thought that rule specifically referred to plays involving the ground. Not sure though.
In general I don't have a problem with that play being called a touchdown. However, from a technical standpoint- the issue may be of control in that it seemed the ball was not in his hands but rather pinned against his body by his forearm. One can argue the ball isn't in control if not in the hands.
If a player fell to the ground while juggling a ball and he somehow trapped it between his legs- would it be a catch or would he have to ultimately get his hand/hands in possession of the ball?

[badgerwarhawk]

I found this:

General Catch Rule

The general rule for a legal catch requires a receiver to control the ball "with his hands or arms before the ball touches the ground," according to the 2013-14 NCAA football rules book.

So pinning the ball to your body with your forearm would result in a legal catch.  Though it would appear that if the player did not have control of the ball with his hands or arms before pinning between his legs the pass would be ruled incomplete.

[emma17]

I found this:

General Catch Rule

The general rule for a legal catch requires a receiver to control the ball "with his hands or arms before the ball touches the ground," according to the 2013-14 NCAA football rules book.

So pinning the ball to your body with your forearm would result in a legal catch.  Though it would appear that if the player did not have control of the ball with his hands or arms before pinning between his legs the pass would be ruled incomplete.

Very interesting- thanks BW.
Maybe a reason they consider "arms" as control has to do with tucking the ball for contact. 
I've seen many catches made with forearms but I can't imagine the ball wasn't eventually controlled by the hand(s).
Surely a receiver's coach would not consider a forearm caught ball as properly caught, but that's a different subject.