FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[02 Warhawk]

I'm still in favor of having the playoff field steup and prevent UWW/UMU from meeting in Salem...rather than the committee doing it.

One way to think about it, and I'm not sure it will happen, but UWO already has. The committee didn't lose the game this year.

True, but UWW has lost games during the regular season in the past and was still kept opposite of Mount.

But I guess if there ever was a year Mount and UWW would meet before the Stagg....it would be this year.

[jknezek]

I'm still in favor of having the playoff field steup and prevent UWW/UMU from meeting in Salem...rather than the committee doing it.

One way to think about it, and I'm not sure it will happen, but UWO already has. The committee didn't lose the game this year.

True, but UWW has lost games during the regular season in the past and was still kept opposite of Mount.

But I guess if there ever was a year Mount and UWW would meet before the Stagg....it would be this year.

I kind of prefer your idea. Make someone else earn it. But... I don't think it's a massive thing if they do end up on the same side this year.

[d-train]

Whitewater is close to a number of North region teams, right? At least closer than most other likely playoff teams from the West.

[wally_wabash]

Whitewater is close to a number of North region teams, right? At least closer than most other likely playoff teams from the West.

Whitewater is juuuust over 500 miles from Mount Union (507 per the NCAA calculator).  So if you look at a map and envision the circle with Whitewater at its center with an edge that runs through Alliance, you'll see that Whitewater is within range of a LOT of teams.  The Warhawks are very flexible for bracket building purposes. 

[Gregory Sager]

True. But if we're looking at bracket construction the way that it's actually done by the national committee, then it's really more accurate to put the point of the compass on Alliance, OH and draw the 500-mile circle that way, rather than putting it on Whitewater, WI.

[emma17]

I'm still in favor of having the playoff field steup and prevent UWW/UMU from meeting in Salem...rather than the committee doing it.

One way to think about it, and I'm not sure it will happen, but UWO already has. The committee didn't lose the game this year.

True, but UWW has lost games during the regular season in the past and was still kept opposite of Mount.

But I guess if there ever was a year Mount and UWW would meet before the Stagg....it would be this year.

I kind of prefer your idea. Make someone else earn it. But... I don't think it's a massive thing if they do end up on the same side this year.

I agree with the concept of making other teams earn it, however, there hasn't been the most balanced opportunity for that to happen.  UWW could be used by the committee as an attempt to stiffen the competition for Mt. in a 2nd or 3rd round game.  If UWW were to win, perhaps Mt wouldn't have a lock on a #1 seed or homefield in future years.   

[d-train]

The drama on Selection Sunday is going to be UUUUGH.

[wally_wabash]

I agree with the concept of making other teams earn it, however, there hasn't been the most balanced opportunity for that to happen.  UWW could be used by the committee as an attempt to stiffen the competition for Mt. in a 2nd or 3rd round game.  If UWW were to win, perhaps Mt wouldn't have a lock on a #1 seed or homefield in future years.   

If the national committee is building brackets in order to make it easy for Mount Union or in order to stick it to Mount Union then they're doing it completely wrong. 

Over the last couple of years, Whitewater has been a fairly clearly #1 and Mount Union has been a fairly clear #2 in the tournament.  1 and 2 will be on opposite sides, as it should be.  This year, Whitewater won't be one of the top 4 seeds and it seems like Mount Union will be the overall #1 seed.  So there's a 50/50 shot that Whitewater winds up in a place that they might play Mount Union before the final and a 1/4 chance that they wind up in the same quadrant.  If that's how it works out during the bracketing process, then cool.  If not, that's fine too.  What shouldn't happen is that Whitewater and Mount Union should be placed anywhere with one eye on where the other is and making sure that they get lumped in together (or apart). 

[emma17]

I agree with the concept of making other teams earn it, however, there hasn't been the most balanced opportunity for that to happen.  UWW could be used by the committee as an attempt to stiffen the competition for Mt. in a 2nd or 3rd round game.  If UWW were to win, perhaps Mt wouldn't have a lock on a #1 seed or homefield in future years.   

If the national committee is building brackets in order to make it easy for Mount Union or in order to stick it to Mount Union then they're doing it completely wrong. 

Over the last couple of years, Whitewater has been a fairly clearly #1 and Mount Union has been a fairly clear #2 in the tournament.  1 and 2 will be on opposite sides, as it should be.  This year, Whitewater won't be one of the top 4 seeds and it seems like Mount Union will be the overall #1 seed.  So there's a 50/50 shot that Whitewater winds up in a place that they might play Mount Union before the final and a 1/4 chance that they wind up in the same quadrant.  If that's how it works out during the bracketing process, then cool.  If not, that's fine too.  What shouldn't happen is that Whitewater and Mount Union should be placed anywhere with one eye on where the other is and making sure that they get lumped in together (or apart).

I understand your point and it's likely the committee would never let such things enter their minds.  That said, I'd have zero issue with the committee if they did this, intentionally.  The committee may not be tasked with caring about the "product" of D3, but there is value in doing so.  This goes back to the annual discussion of "is Mt. V UWW" a good thing for D3.  I think it was for the first few years, in many ways.  I don't think it's very good for D3 any longer, and I don't think it's wrong for D3 to make decisions (with integrity) that would be good for the sport. 

[emma17]

I see Ithaca is playing Buffalo State-  at the University of Buffalo.  Nice to see Lance isn't holding a grudge.

[retagent]

I'm still in favor of having the playoff field step up and prevent UWW/UMU from meeting in Salem...rather than the committee doing it.

If my memory serves, and I will admit to some weakness there, I think I recall that there was much discussion about previous records/achievements don't count THIS YEAR.

[bleedpurple]

Whitewater is close to a number of North region teams, right? At least closer than most other likely playoff teams from the West.

Whitewater is juuuust over 500 miles from Mount Union (507 per the NCAA calculator).  So if you look at a map and envision the circle with Whitewater at its center with an edge that runs through Alliance, you'll see that Whitewater is within range of a LOT of teams.  The Warhawks are very flexible for bracket building purposes.

NOW you are beginning to view D-III football correctly! Way to go Wally! 

[ScreamingEagles]

Notes from UW-L football practice Tuesday

http://lacrossetribune.com/print-specific/mini-sidebar/notes-from-uw-l-football-practice-tuesday/article_9fd9e604-8e96-5432-b519-be365bea3723.html

Is Nate Newberry related to Tom Newberry?

I have no idea - says here he's from Kenosha.

http://uwlathletics.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=4411&path=football

[hazzben]

500 mile radius from Whitewater

500 mile radius from UST

500 mile radius from SJU

500 mile radius from Oshkosh

500 mile radius from Platteville

500 mile radius from St. Scholastica

500 mile radius from St. Norbert

Keep in mind, that's 500 miles as the crow flies, not as the bus drives. SJU going to the North is the trickiest and has the least viable options, but it's not impossible. Any of the WI schools would be prime candidates, as are any of the 'North' teams from central Illinois northward and NW Indiana.

The WI schools open up tons of possibilities, it's feasible to bus a team to/from all of Illinois, Indiana, Ohio and even Western PA

[jknezek]

I did similar circles last year and randomly checked some stuff versus TES. I figured out about 400-425 miles as the crow flies worked for 500 miles in TES. Obviously not perfect, but a 500 mile crow fly circle was too large.