FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Sakman 1111]

Memories of playing Mount Union in Ohio in 2003....Stadium good but looks like a horse race track....Tailgating was minimal...Purple Raiders were awesome....My son started his first game as a Warhawk and held is own...Back to back games against them showed our players we had a way to go but by 2005 we were playing for the national championship...Props to Brez for that plan...Amazing since 2002 when my son red shirted his first year how good Whitewater has become....credit to the coaches and administration and of course the players...Pound the Rock boys...

[joelmama]

Memories of playing Mount Union in Ohio in 2003....Stadium good but looks like a horse race track....Tailgating was minimal...Purple Raiders were awesome....My son started his first game as a Warhawk and held is own...Back to back games against them showed our players we had a way to go but by 2005 we were playing for the national championship...Props to Brez for that plan...Amazing since 2002 when my son red shirted his first year how good Whitewater has become....credit to the coaches and administration and of course the players...Pound the Rock boys...

Red-shirting is not allowed in d3, medical red-shirting is there is a difference.

[BoBo]

Memories of playing Mount Union in Ohio in 2003....Stadium good but looks like a horse race track....Tailgating was minimal...Purple Raiders were awesome....My son started his first game as a Warhawk and held is own...Back to back games against them showed our players we had a way to go but by 2005 we were playing for the national championship...Props to Brez for that plan...Amazing since 2002 when my son red shirted his first year how good Whitewater has become....credit to the coaches and administration and of course the players...Pound the Rock boys...

Red-shirting is not allowed in d3, medical red-shirting is there is a difference.

Sakman's talking 2002 not today, red-shirting must've been permitted back then.

[BoBo]

Post-game press conference - Osh first, then UWW.

Interesting comments by Cerroni starting about the 5:20 mark.  Sounds like a bitter man. Says he's not complaining or whining, but it sure sounds like he is. Take a listen.

LINK:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4OvT7sqo6E

[joelmama]

Memories of playing Mount Union in Ohio in 2003....Stadium good but looks like a horse race track....Tailgating was minimal...Purple Raiders were awesome....My son started his first game as a Warhawk and held is own...Back to back games against them showed our players we had a way to go but by 2005 we were playing for the national championship...Props to Brez for that plan...Amazing since 2002 when my son red shirted his first year how good Whitewater has become....credit to the coaches and administration and of course the players...Pound the Rock boys...

Red-shirting is not allowed in d3, medical red-shirting is there is a difference.

Sakman's talking 2002 not today, red-shirting must've been permitted back then.

Nope the rule is essentially  the same now as it was at least as far back as 1980.

[AppletonRocks]

Post-game press conference - Osh first, then UWW.

Interesting comments by Cerroni starting about the 5:20 mark.  Sounds like a bitter man. Says he's not complaining or whining, but it sure sounds like he is. Take a listen.

LINK:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4OvT7sqo6E

Both teams are part of the same state system.  Poaching each other's coaches is not good form.  Money is how you do it.  I thought he was perfectly clear.     Oshkosh needs to figure out a way to get more cash so they can keep these coaches. A new challenge for their administration.  Glad Cerroni said it.  He is an awesome coach.

[footballfan413]

Memories of playing Mount Union in Ohio in 2003....Stadium good but looks like a horse race track....Tailgating was minimal...Purple Raiders were awesome....My son started his first game as a Warhawk and held is own...Back to back games against them showed our players we had a way to go but by 2005 we were playing for the national championship...Props to Brez for that plan...Amazing since 2002 when my son red shirted his first year how good Whitewater has become....credit to the coaches and administration and of course the players...Pound the Rock boys...

Red-shirting is not allowed in d3, medical red-shirting is there is a difference.

Sakman's talking 2002 not today, red-shirting must've been permitted back then.

Nope the rule is essentially  the same now as it was at least as far back as 1980.

Pat needs to wade in on this for further clarification but my son arrived in 03 and was, definitely, red-shirted like Sakman's son before him and he then became a 4 year starter from 04-07.  It was allowed, if a program chose to do the practice, but we were told that his class would be the last class of freshmen to be allowed to do it by the NCAA at the D-3 level. It was my understanding that private schools rarely took part in the opportunity and were against it because they felt it gave public schools with lower tuition an advantage.  Hence, the NCAA, eventually, changed the rule, in 04. 

Took this from D-3football.com's FAQ's.   Note the last sentence. 

"You are not permitted to redshirt in Division III. Redshirting is the practice of having a player attend and participate in practices but not play in any games, preserving a year of eligibility. Medical redshirting (also known as a medical hardship season) is still permitted at the Division III level. The general guideline is that you must have played one-third of the scheduled games or fewer in order to be eligible. If you suffer a season-ending injury in that time-frame and can document it, your conference (or athletic director, if an independent) can file paperwork with the NCAA on your behalf to restore a season of eligibility. So-called "routine" redshirting is still permitted at other levels and those redshirts are recognized by Division III in general, although some conferences may not recognize them. (You will want to confirm with your school's compliance officer if you are transferring in.) That is, if you redshirted outside of Division III and then transferred to a D-III school, you would not be forced to give up that year of eligibility. (To redshirt in this manner you may not appear in any games whatsoever.) And of course, anyone who had a routine redshirt year at a Division III school before Aug. 1, 2004, has that redshirt grandfathered in."

[WarhawkDad]

Memories of playing Mount Union in Ohio in 2003....Stadium good but looks like a horse race track....Tailgating was minimal...Purple Raiders were awesome....My son started his first game as a Warhawk and held is own...Back to back games against them showed our players we had a way to go but by 2005 we were playing for the national championship...Props to Brez for that plan...Amazing since 2002 when my son red shirted his first year how good Whitewater has become....credit to the coaches and administration and of course the players...Pound the Rock boys...

Red-shirting is not allowed in d3, medical red-shirting is there is a difference.

Sakman's talking 2002 not today, red-shirting must've been permitted back then.

Nope the rule is essentially  the same now as it was at least as far back as 1980.

Some people confuse "grey-shirting" with red-shirting.   Difference is with red shirting at the higher levels you still practice with the team.  In D3 a greyshirt does not.  They are expected to lift etc... but are not technically part of the team.  Anyone care to elaborate or correct me.

[footballfan413]

Memories of playing Mount Union in Ohio in 2003....Stadium good but looks like a horse race track....Tailgating was minimal...Purple Raiders were awesome....My son started his first game as a Warhawk and held is own...Back to back games against them showed our players we had a way to go but by 2005 we were playing for the national championship...Props to Brez for that plan...Amazing since 2002 when my son red shirted his first year how good Whitewater has become....credit to the coaches and administration and of course the players...Pound the Rock boys...

Red-shirting is not allowed in d3, medical red-shirting is there is a difference.

Sakman's talking 2002 not today, red-shirting must've been permitted back then.

Nope the rule is essentially  the same now as it was at least as far back as 1980.

Some people confuse "grey-shirting" with red-shirting.   Difference is with red shirting at the higher levels you still practice with the team.  In D3 a greyshirt does not.  They are expected to lift etc... but are not technically part of the team.  Anyone care to elaborate or correct me.

The move from red-shirt to only allowing grey shirting was the change that was made, by the NCAA, in 2004 at the D-3 level.

[NewHawk]

Post-game press conference - Osh first, then UWW.

Interesting comments by Cerroni starting about the 5:20 mark.  Sounds like a bitter man. Says he's not complaining or whining, but it sure sounds like he is. Take a listen.

LINK:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4OvT7sqo6E

Both teams are part of the same state system.  Poaching each other's coaches is not good form.  Money is how you do it.  I thought he was perfectly clear.     Oshkosh needs to figure out a way to get more cash so they can keep these coaches. A new challenge for their administration.  Glad Cerroni said it.
He is an awesome coach.

There is absolutely no issue with going after the best coaches no matter where they are currently coaching.  A head coach has a job to do and an obligation to his school and his players to do everything he can to make them the best they can be. Bad form?  Bad form is passing on someone that you think is the best fit in an effort to not hurt another teams feeling. Come on, these coaches aren't in the pee wee league volunteering their time. This is their profession.

[Sakman 1111]

413 correct as usual.....red shirting allowed until 2004....my son started every game for 4 years but dressed for every game in 2002 but never saw the field as back up center...in 2003 he was moved to tackle.....sure you could red shirt back then but you also paid for an extra year out of state tuition....

[footballfan413]

413 correct as usual.....red shirting allowed until 2004....my son started every game for 4 years but dressed for every game in 2002 but never saw the field as back up center...in 2003 he was moved to tackle.....sure you could red shirt back then but you also paid for an extra year out of state tuition....

Which is why it was used very little by private schools. I remember my son talking to an old HS teammate at Thanksgiving in 03, who was playing at Wheaton and was arguing,  vehemently, that, "you can't red-shirt in D-3."     My son:  "Listen, I don't know what to tell you but I am on the roster, have been to every practice, and dress for every home game but as long as I do not step on the field for one play this season, I get 4 more years."
We always considered it lucky that he made it in, just under the wire, in 03.   
Of course, my pocketbook didn't feel lucky,   

Let me add one more thing.  My son was recruited heavily by both public and private schools in 02.  I remember having a coach at a CCIW private school tell me, after I asked about the potential to red-shirt,  "Oh, we don't do that.  We don't feel like we can ask our parents to pay for more than 4 years."   

[ScreamingEagles]

UW-L football: Does UW-Platteville offer template for success?

http://lacrossetribune.com/sports/uw-l-football-does-uw-platteville-offer-template-for-success/article_8601663e-d3a3-51cd-ad00-67c329d59732.html

Platteville has four full-time assistants and Emendorfer fundraises to put together the salary for a fifth. At present, the Eagles have two full-time assistants. It should be note that full-time assistant coaches at both Platteville and La Crosse also each teach classes.

"Athletics is the front porch of the university. We all know there's a lot of coverage of football and that we want to win. Where it begins to separate teams is being able to have things like financing for staff," Emendorfer said.

Some good quotes from UWP's Mike Emendorfer in this article - the man who gave Joel Dettwiler his first coaching job at Platteville in the 90's.

[cubs]

Memories of playing Mount Union in Ohio in 2003....Stadium good but looks like a horse race track....Tailgating was minimal...Purple Raiders were awesome....My son started his first game as a Warhawk and held is own...Back to back games against them showed our players we had a way to go but by 2005 we were playing for the national championship...Props to Brez for that plan...Amazing since 2002 when my son red shirted his first year how good Whitewater has become....credit to the coaches and administration and of course the players...Pound the Rock boys...

Red-shirting is not allowed in d3, medical red-shirting is there is a difference.

Sakman's talking 2002 not today, red-shirting must've been permitted back then.

Nope the rule is essentially  the same now as it was at least as far back as 1980.

Try again.....  Red-Shirting was used my entire time playing D3 athletics, and that was until 2001.

Don't believe the rule changed until 2004.....

[AppletonRocks]

Post-game press conference - Osh first, then UWW.

Interesting comments by Cerroni starting about the 5:20 mark.  Sounds like a bitter man. Says he's not complaining or whining, but it sure sounds like he is. Take a listen.

LINK:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4OvT7sqo6E

Both teams are part of the same state system.  Poaching each other's coaches is not good form.  Money is how you do it.  I thought he was perfectly clear.     Oshkosh needs to figure out a way to get more cash so they can keep these coaches. A new challenge for their administration.  Glad Cerroni said it.
He is an awesome coach.

There is absolutely no issue with going after the best coaches no matter where they are currently coaching.  A head coach has a job to do and an obligation to his school and his players to do everything he can to make them the best they can be. Bad form?  Bad form is passing on someone that you think is the best fit in an effort to not hurt another teams feeling. Come on, these coaches aren't in the pee wee league volunteering their time. This is their profession.

Within the WIAC I see it as bad form. That is an opinion.   Sims better get working on an alternative strategy than raising ticket prices.