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Quote from: AppletonRocks on December 08, 2015, 08:01:50 PM
Cerroni news: 

http://www.uwoshkoshtitans.com/sports/fball/2015-16/releases/20151208j4f1uc

:) :) :)

Congratulations to Coach Cerroni. More awards will be given in about 10 days. It will be interesting to see how those turn out as well.

badgerwarhawk

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USee

I like UWW this weekend. I don't believe Mt Union has played anyone as good as the teams UWW has just taken out on the road. I question Mt Union this year, more than I ever have, their ability to play with UWW. That opinion is informed by my observations of the relative strength of the OAC and the quality of the playoff opponents each team has faced. I could easily be proven wrong as the Purple Raiders are really, really talented, especially on defense. My experience tells me the story of the last couple Stagg Bowls is the reality. UWW has the guys up front to neutralize the LOS and their skill guys combined with their physical style, will win out.


02 Warhawk

Quote from: USee on December 09, 2015, 08:51:13 AM
I like UWW this weekend. I don't believe Mt Union has played anyone as good as the teams UWW has just taken out on the road. I question Mt Union this year, more than I ever have, their ability to play with UWW. That opinion is informed by my observations of the relative strength of the OAC and the quality of the playoff opponents each team has faced. I could easily be proven wrong as the Purple Raiders are really, really talented, especially on defense. My experience tells me the story of the last couple Stagg Bowls is the reality. UWW has the guys up front to neutralize the LOS and their skill guys combined with their physical style, will win out.

So Wheaton/UWO > Wesley?

Very possible...and I hope you're right.

Desertraider

Quote from: USee on December 09, 2015, 08:51:13 AM
I like UWW this weekend. I don't believe Mt Union has played anyone as good as the teams UWW has just taken out on the road. I question Mt Union this year, more than I ever have, their ability to play with UWW. That opinion is informed by my observations of the relative strength of the OAC and the quality of the playoff opponents each team has faced. I could easily be proven wrong as the Purple Raiders are really, really talented, especially on defense. My experience tells me the story of the last couple Stagg Bowls is the reality. UWW has the guys up front to neutralize the LOS and their skill guys combined with their physical style, will win out.

In my opinion Mount can't win unless they get:
1. Great QB play. Taurice has to make good decisions, no picks, and control the ball.
2. Namdar has to be effective. Not talking 150 yds etc..but he has to make catches in traffic and take what he is given.
3. RB's have to contribute (all of them not just Nemeth). BJ and Jamaal have to make the most of their carries in relief of Logan.
4. Mount can't turn the ball over.
5. Take the scores you can get - TDs matter most but FGs will be needed.
6. The D has to contain the run and get pressure (maybe not on every play - but they have to have pressure)
7. The secondary has to avoid PI penalties and big plays.
8. The LBs have to control the underneath zones.
9. Mount has to show UWW something they haven't seen on film. Not talking trick-plays, but they have to put some wrinkles in to what UWW has seen.
10. Mount has to forget last year, and the year before, and...you get the point. They have to come out fast.

Safe travels to all and cheers to a good game!
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I probably haven't been paying enough attention but what's the status on Dennis Moore? Is he done for the season or are they holding him for say this game or the Stagg Bowl if we win? All I've heard is that he's "nursing an injury".

emma17

Quote from: desertraider on December 09, 2015, 09:55:43 AM
Quote from: USee on December 09, 2015, 08:51:13 AM
I like UWW this weekend. I don't believe Mt Union has played anyone as good as the teams UWW has just taken out on the road. I question Mt Union this year, more than I ever have, their ability to play with UWW. That opinion is informed by my observations of the relative strength of the OAC and the quality of the playoff opponents each team has faced. I could easily be proven wrong as the Purple Raiders are really, really talented, especially on defense. My experience tells me the story of the last couple Stagg Bowls is the reality. UWW has the guys up front to neutralize the LOS and their skill guys combined with their physical style, will win out.

In my opinion Mount can't win unless they get:
1. Great QB play. Taurice has to make good decisions, no picks, and control the ball.
2. Namdar has to be effective. Not talking 150 yds etc..but he has to make catches in traffic and take what he is given.
3. RB's have to contribute (all of them not just Nemeth). BJ and Jamaal have to make the most of their carries in relief of Logan.
4. Mount can't turn the ball over.
5. Take the scores you can get - TDs matter most but FGs will be needed.
6. The D has to contain the run and get pressure (maybe not on every play - but they have to have pressure)
7. The secondary has to avoid PI penalties and big plays.
8. The LBs have to control the underneath zones.
9. Mount has to show UWW something they haven't seen on film. Not talking trick-plays, but they have to put some wrinkles in to what UWW has seen.
10. Mount has to forget last year, and the year before, and...you get the point. They have to come out fast.

Safe travels to all and cheers to a good game!

I'd like to believe UWW's #1 key to success will be stopping the deep ball.
If Mt is forced to put together multiple play drives, multiple times- I think UWW should do well.

hazzben

Quote from: desertraider on December 09, 2015, 09:55:43 AM
Quote from: USee on December 09, 2015, 08:51:13 AM
I like UWW this weekend. I don't believe Mt Union has played anyone as good as the teams UWW has just taken out on the road. I question Mt Union this year, more than I ever have, their ability to play with UWW. That opinion is informed by my observations of the relative strength of the OAC and the quality of the playoff opponents each team has faced. I could easily be proven wrong as the Purple Raiders are really, really talented, especially on defense. My experience tells me the story of the last couple Stagg Bowls is the reality. UWW has the guys up front to neutralize the LOS and their skill guys combined with their physical style, will win out.

In my opinion Mount can't win unless they get:
1. Great QB play. Taurice has to make good decisions, no picks, and control the ball.
2. Namdar has to be effective. Not talking 150 yds etc..but he has to make catches in traffic and take what he is given.
3. RB's have to contribute (all of them not just Nemeth). BJ and Jamaal have to make the most of their carries in relief of Logan.
4. Mount can't turn the ball over.
5. Take the scores you can get - TDs matter most but FGs will be needed.
6. The D has to contain the run and get pressure (maybe not on every play - but they have to have pressure)
7. The secondary has to avoid PI penalties and big plays.
8. The LBs have to control the underneath zones.
9. Mount has to show UWW something they haven't seen on film. Not talking trick-plays, but they have to put some wrinkles in to what UWW has seen.
10. Mount has to forget last year, and the year before, and...you get the point. They have to come out fast.

Safe travels to all and cheers to a good game!

That list almost makes it seem like Mount has to play a perfect game to win. I don't think the gap is that wide. A Mount win wouldn't be shocking. But I'm favoring UWW here. Especially since they're the one team that I think going to Alliance has zero negative effect on and probably just motivates them. I sense they're relishing the chance to play there. And those national title banners aren't going to intimidate the Warhawks. Nor are rowdy Mount fans.

Can't wait to watch this one!!

hazzben

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on December 09, 2015, 09:47:54 AM
Quote from: USee on December 09, 2015, 08:51:13 AM
I like UWW this weekend. I don't believe Mt Union has played anyone as good as the teams UWW has just taken out on the road. I question Mt Union this year, more than I ever have, their ability to play with UWW. That opinion is informed by my observations of the relative strength of the OAC and the quality of the playoff opponents each team has faced. I could easily be proven wrong as the Purple Raiders are really, really talented, especially on defense. My experience tells me the story of the last couple Stagg Bowls is the reality. UWW has the guys up front to neutralize the LOS and their skill guys combined with their physical style, will win out.

So Wheaton/UWO > Wesley?

Very possible...and I hope you're right.

I'd say UWO certainly is and Wheaton probably is. Not a knock on Wesley, I think Wheaton had a great squad this year and could have done some real damage if not lined up to play UWW so early.

Desertraider

Quote from: hazzben on December 09, 2015, 10:46:47 AM
Quote from: desertraider on December 09, 2015, 09:55:43 AM
Quote from: USee on December 09, 2015, 08:51:13 AM
I like UWW this weekend. I don't believe Mt Union has played anyone as good as the teams UWW has just taken out on the road. I question Mt Union this year, more than I ever have, their ability to play with UWW. That opinion is informed by my observations of the relative strength of the OAC and the quality of the playoff opponents each team has faced. I could easily be proven wrong as the Purple Raiders are really, really talented, especially on defense. My experience tells me the story of the last couple Stagg Bowls is the reality. UWW has the guys up front to neutralize the LOS and their skill guys combined with their physical style, will win out.

In my opinion Mount can't win unless they get:
1. Great QB play. Taurice has to make good decisions, no picks, and control the ball.
2. Namdar has to be effective. Not talking 150 yds etc..but he has to make catches in traffic and take what he is given.
3. RB's have to contribute (all of them not just Nemeth). BJ and Jamaal have to make the most of their carries in relief of Logan.
4. Mount can't turn the ball over.
5. Take the scores you can get - TDs matter most but FGs will be needed.
6. The D has to contain the run and get pressure (maybe not on every play - but they have to have pressure)
7. The secondary has to avoid PI penalties and big plays.
8. The LBs have to control the underneath zones.
9. Mount has to show UWW something they haven't seen on film. Not talking trick-plays, but they have to put some wrinkles in to what UWW has seen.
10. Mount has to forget last year, and the year before, and...you get the point. They have to come out fast.

Safe travels to all and cheers to a good game!

That list almost makes it seem like Mount has to play a perfect game to win. I don't think the gap is that wide. A Mount win wouldn't be shocking. But I'm favoring UWW here. Especially since they're the one team that I think going to Alliance has zero negative effect on and probably just motivates them. I sense they're relishing the chance to play there. And those national title banners aren't going to intimidate the Warhawks. Nor are rowdy Mount fans.

Can't wait to watch this one!!

I think Mount does have to play a near perfect game. Look UWW, IMO, has an advantage in that they have done what no others have done - they have beaten Mount multiple times. You are correct - UWW will not be intimidated. Mount will not be intimidated either - but they have to play the way they are used to: in front on the scoreboard. Again this is just my opinion. BTW: Rowdy Mount fans?? I think the average age on the covered side is 65 (not counting the band members). Normally, the opposing teams fans are rowdier..at least in the 1st qtr..and JCU fans are the worst  ;D.
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Quote from: 02 Warhawk on December 09, 2015, 09:47:54 AM

So Wheaton/UWO > Wesley?

Very possible...and I hope you're right.

I have no doubts this is the case.   Wesley had a stud QB and a couple nice receivers.   The rest of the team was very average.   Especially along the lines of scrimmage.   

UWW will be a HUGE step up in the physical size and strength of the opponent for Mount.  Seriously doubt the QB is anywhere near as good as Callahan, but it won't matter if UWW can run the ball consistently and protect him like they typically have.   Give a good QB a clean pocket and he'll look great.   As it's been with every game between Mount & Whitewater.   The line of scrimmage is key #1.  Turnovers are #2.   Everything just comes along for the ride.

From the late 90's thru the mid-2000's Mount was winning because of their line play.   Now they're in the same boat they were when the run first started in the early 90's.   Winning in spite of their line play.   The level of recruiting in Ohio, especially for O-linemen, has gotten a lot tougher for Mount with the growth of so many D2 schools in the area.   Mount used to have an abundance of linemen that could play.   Now they're scratching to get 5 guys with real ability and size.  That's the difference between Mount now and back in the day.   Plus not having LK calling the plays doesn't help either.

They're really talented and capable of winning a title, but they're not big and strong.   The skill people, specifically the un-tested QB, is going to have to play lights out to overcome the difference at the line of scrimmage.
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Quote from: HScoach on December 09, 2015, 02:09:46 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on December 09, 2015, 09:47:54 AM

So Wheaton/UWO > Wesley?

Very possible...and I hope you're right.

I have no doubts this is the case.   Wesley had a stud QB and a couple nice receivers.   The rest of the team was very average.   Especially along the lines of scrimmage.   

UWW will be a HUGE step up in the physical size and strength of the opponent for Mount.  Seriously doubt the QB is anywhere near as good as Callahan, but it won't matter if UWW can run the ball consistently and protect him like they typically have.   Give a good QB a clean pocket and he'll look great.   As it's been with every game between Mount & Whitewater.   The line of scrimmage is key #1.  Turnovers are #2.   Everything just comes along for the ride.

From the late 90's thru the mid-2000's Mount was winning because of their line play.   Now they're in the same boat they were when the run first started in the early 90's.   Winning in spite of their line play.   The level of recruiting in Ohio, especially for O-linemen, has gotten a lot tougher for Mount with the growth of so many D2 schools in the area.   Mount used to have an abundance of linemen that could play.   Now they're scratching to get 5 guys with real ability and size.  That's the difference between Mount now and back in the day.   Plus not having LK calling the plays doesn't help either.

They're really talented and capable of winning a title, but they're not big and strong.   The skill people, specifically the un-tested QB, is going to have to play lights out to overcome the difference at the line of scrimmage.

What he said...

cubs

Quote from: HScoach on December 09, 2015, 02:09:46 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on December 09, 2015, 09:47:54 AM

So Wheaton/UWO > Wesley?

Very possible...and I hope you're right.

I have no doubts this is the case.   Wesley had a stud QB and a couple nice receivers.   The rest of the team was very average.   Especially along the lines of scrimmage.   

UWW will be a HUGE step up in the physical size and strength of the opponent for Mount.  Seriously doubt the QB is anywhere near as good as Callahan, but it won't matter if UWW can run the ball consistently and protect him like they typically have.   Give a good QB a clean pocket and he'll look great.   As it's been with every game between Mount & Whitewater.   The line of scrimmage is key #1.  Turnovers are #2.   Everything just comes along for the ride.

From the late 90's thru the mid-2000's Mount was winning because of their line play.   Now they're in the same boat they were when the run first started in the early 90's.   Winning in spite of their line play.   The level of recruiting in Ohio, especially for O-linemen, has gotten a lot tougher for Mount with the growth of so many D2 schools in the area.   Mount used to have an abundance of linemen that could play.   Now they're scratching to get 5 guys with real ability and size.  That's the difference between Mount now and back in the day.   Plus not having LK calling the plays doesn't help either.

They're really talented and capable of winning a title, but they're not big and strong.   The skill people, specifically the un-tested QB, is going to have to play lights out to overcome the difference at the line of scrimmage.
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