FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Desertraider]

Carin- I am not giving away any secrets - ask any UWW poster - Mounts D tries to take away something. The goal is to make you one dimensional. Looking at your stats for the year I would say the run game is the target (and normally is with Mount). Mount has faced some big backs and some quick backs but the run game is normally the first to go. However - the D and O work together. In other words - the D forces a couple 3 and outs by stuffing the run. The O gets a couple quick strike scores with a short field. Bang. It's 9 mins in the score is 14 or 21 to 0 and the opponents play calling tends to switch. They vacate the run and go the passing route. Mount loads up with pressure from front 3 and any of 5 LBs. The longer UWO keeps Mount off the board - the more Mount has to account for both UWO run and pass.

UWW ran into this at Mount in 2015. I thought (and many UWW fans agree) that Bullis and UWW went away from the run way to soon. But panic sets in and the "we have to score quick and get momentum" takes over. If your coaches (should the game get like this) avoid panic and stick to their plan it would be the best approach. Most do not. Suddenly - strip sack, INT, FF and its 35 or more on the board before half.

UWO is really balanced. Very Mount like in the numbers: average 240 pass and 245 run per game. That's incredibly balanced. This game will be interesting to see. 

[MUC57]

Carin

I told you someone else could really answer your question better. Thanks to "desertraider" for a knowledgeable explanation. Works for me.

[bleedpurple]

Carin- I am not giving away any secrets - ask any UWW poster - Mounts D tries to take away something. The goal is to make you one dimensional. Looking at your stats for the year I would say the run game is the target (and normally is with Mount). Mount has faced some big backs and some quick backs but the run game is normally the first to go. However - the D and O work together. In other words - the D forces a couple 3 and outs by stuffing the run. The O gets a couple quick strike scores with a short field. Bang. It's 9 mins in the score is 14 or 21 to 0 and the opponents play calling tends to switch. They vacate the run and go the passing route. Mount loads up with pressure from front 3 and any of 5 LBs. The longer UWO keeps Mount off the board - the more Mount has to account for both UWO run and pass.

UWW ran into this at Mount in 2015. I thought (and many UWW fans agree) that Bullis and UWW went away from the run way to soon. But panic sets in and the "we have to score quick and get momentum" takes over. If your coaches (should the game get like this) avoid panic and stick to their plan it would be the best approach. Most do not. Suddenly - strip sack, INT, FF and its 35 or more on the board before half.

UWO is really balanced. Very Mount like in the numbers: average 240 pass and 245 run per game. That's incredibly balanced. This game will be interesting to see.

DR,
I think that's a good description of what Mount tries to do and often succeeds. Anything can happen, but I think it will be extremely difficult for Mount to be able to dictate the game in the manner you describe against this particular UW-O team.  I have not hidden the fact that I am not exactly a Titan fan. But it is what it is. It will take every bit of good that the Purple Raiders can muster on Saturday to survive. I get no particular joy in saying this, but the game not getting out of control may well be more determined by whether Mount can hang than how Oshkosh responds to anything.

[HScoach]

This Mount team is an odd one.  It seems to be as likely to blow the doors off the opponent as it does to go a quarter without a yard.  Very explosive due to deep and fast WR corps, but VERY inconsistent.  Running game has good numbers due to playing in a depleted OAC, but they can't run it against a good defense.  RB's and O-line are average.  The difference is the WR's.   They're as good a group as any I can remember.  Don't have an individual like Garcon or Shorts, but they're all really good. 

[hsbsballcoach7]

As of about a half hour ago....

UW-Oshkosh (12-0) will host University of Mount Union (Ohio) (13-0) in the semifinal round of the NCAA Division III Football Championship. Kickoff is set for 12:05 p.m. on Saturday (Dec. 9) from J. J. Keller Field at Titan Stadium.

I saw it mentioned that the game will be a 1PM start, not 12:05. Is that correct? I saw it on UMU media release.

I believe it is 1pm EST, 12pm CST.

Can't believe I didn't think about that. We're not used to leaving EST often...that's my excuse.

[hsbsballcoach7]

Carin- I am not giving away any secrets - ask any UWW poster - Mounts D tries to take away something. The goal is to make you one dimensional. Looking at your stats for the year I would say the run game is the target (and normally is with Mount). Mount has faced some big backs and some quick backs but the run game is normally the first to go. However - the D and O work together. In other words - the D forces a couple 3 and outs by stuffing the run. The O gets a couple quick strike scores with a short field. Bang. It's 9 mins in the score is 14 or 21 to 0 and the opponents play calling tends to switch. They vacate the run and go the passing route. Mount loads up with pressure from front 3 and any of 5 LBs. The longer UWO keeps Mount off the board - the more Mount has to account for both UWO run and pass.

UWW ran into this at Mount in 2015. I thought (and many UWW fans agree) that Bullis and UWW went away from the run way to soon. But panic sets in and the "we have to score quick and get momentum" takes over. If your coaches (should the game get like this) avoid panic and stick to their plan it would be the best approach. Most do not. Suddenly - strip sack, INT, FF and its 35 or more on the board before half.

UWO is really balanced. Very Mount like in the numbers: average 240 pass and 245 run per game. That's incredibly balanced. This game will be interesting to see.

I would agree that this is what UMU tries to do as a team. The raiders goal is to gain momentum quickly and force their opponent into going one dimensional. I think Mounts D has more team speed this year than size (for a Mount team). They're not as big as they've been in the past, but can run and cover anyone in D3. I bet UWO will try to run right at UMU and then use play action and misdirection to keep them off balance (kind of what Wisconsin did to OSU).

[emma17]

Mt fans know Mt better than I so I won't suggest they can't run on UWO. I didn't think Mt could run on UWW in 2015, until I sat through the agony.
From my armchair, I can see Mt having success in one of two ways. If UWO plays a softer D to prevent the long ball, and if Mt can gash the D line like they did to UWW in 2015, UWO will have to come up to the line, leaving them volunerable to the deep ball. The other way is if Mt is able to use all of its receiver capabilities with quick passes and crossing routes with UWO playing coverage and a 2-3 man rush, leading to runs after the catch and an eventual break down in deep responsibility disicipline.

UWO's offense vs. Mt'd defense is the most intriguing to me. Someone mentioned Mt has seen big backs. I know you Mounties get a bit riled when someone says "Mt hasn't seen a team like...", but I'll freely say it, Mt hasn't seen an offensive team like UWO. Sure, Mt may have seen big backs, or fast backs, but UWO has all of that plus a serious nastiness of physicality. UWO can pound and pound and then work the edges and then go deep- and they do all of it well.

Mt will be tested in all elements of defense. I hope the weather allows both teams to run all of their plays.

UWO may be exposed in kick coverage.   

[WRMUalum13]

Mt fans know Mt better than I so I won't suggest they can't run on UWO. I didn't think Mt could run on UWW in 2015, until I sat through the agony.
From my armchair, I can see Mt having success in one of two ways. If UWO plays a softer D to prevent the long ball, and if Mt can gash the D line like they did to UWW in 2015, UWO will have to come up to the line, leaving them volunerable to the deep ball. The other way is if Mt is able to use all of its receiver capabilities with quick passes and crossing routes with UWO playing coverage and a 2-3 man rush, leading to runs after the catch and an eventual break down in deep responsibility disicipline.

UWO's offense vs. Mt'd defense is the most intriguing to me. Someone mentioned Mt has seen big backs. I know you Mounties get a bit riled when someone says "Mt hasn't seen a team like...", but I'll freely say it, Mt hasn't seen an offensive team like UWO. Sure, Mt may have seen big backs, or fast backs, but UWO has all of that plus a serious nastiness of physicality. UWO can pound and pound and then work the edges and then go deep- and they do all of it well.

Mt will be tested in all elements of defense. I hope the weather allows both teams to run all of their plays.

UWO may be exposed in kick coverage.

This UMU team doesn't have nearly the running attacking the 2015 team had. Two solid backs in Evans Morris and Petrucelli, but neither of them are punishing runners (yet, Petro is a freshman) like Nemeth was. One of the biggest rushing threats might be the QB. Poormans not as strong a runner as fulford but not a pure passer either

[bleedpurple]

I know you Mounties get a bit riled when someone says "Mt hasn't seen a team like..."

This made me laugh out loud. If "Mount hasn't seen a team like..." riles them, I wonder how they feel about being called "Mounties"? 

[Mr. Ypsi]

I know you Mounties get a bit riled when someone says "Mt hasn't seen a team like..."

This made me laugh out loud. If "Mount hasn't seen a team like..." riles them, I wonder how they feel about being called "Mounties"?

HEY!!  Are casting aspersions on Sgt. Preston??!!

[HSCTiger74]

I know you Mounties get a bit riled when someone says "Mt hasn't seen a team like..."

This made me laugh out loud. If "Mount hasn't seen a team like..." riles them, I wonder how they feel about being called "Mounties"?

HEY!!  Are casting aspersions on Sgt. Preston??!!

Could be worse ... he could be equating them to Dudley Do-Right.   

[MUC57]

 Tot
Oshkosh fans

With a big game coming up and talk of offenses, defenses , special teams and which team hasn't seen an (fill in the blank) like (team name), I ask a diversionary question.
Why do our teams not draw bigger crowds? UWO averages close to 2000 as does UMU. Other top programs, with the exception of St. John's, are around the same number. What a great way to spend a Saturday afternoon - cheering on our alma mater or just watching "pure" football . Cheer for the local college or watch because they're "pretty good"!
You have a good team, we (UMU) have a good team as does UMHB, Wesley, UWW, St. Thomas and several others.
Don't know the answer. A lot of people are missing some good football.
Any comments?

[retagent]

My prediction. The team with the most points after 4 quarters will win.

[MUC57]

retagent

Interesting prediction. I think the team with fewer points at the end will lose.
Thanks for this board. It allows us to air out our differences. Or, you might be right!

[HansenRatings]

Tot
Oshkosh fans

With a big game coming up and talk of offenses, defenses , special teams and which team hasn't seen an (fill in the blank) like (team name), I ask a diversionary question.
Why do our teams not draw bigger crowds? UWO averages close to 2000 as does UMU. Other top programs, with the exception of St. John's, are around the same number. What a great way to spend a Saturday afternoon - cheering on our alma mater or just watching "pure" football . Cheer for the local college or watch because they're "pretty good"!
You have a good team, we (UMU) have a good team as does UMHB, Wesley, UWW, St. Thomas and several others.
Don't know the answer. A lot of people are missing some good football.
Any comments?

For a lot of the WIAC schools during the playoffs, it's a pretty simple answer: hunting season.