FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[emma17]

Emma,

On my never ending quest to figure out how your brain works, I have a serious question for you.  If Alex Peete had broken off 4 or 5 runs of 20 or more yards so far this year, which UW-W "shortcoming" would you be focused on right now?

In no particular order:
Why is there no motion or pre-snap shifts by the O? This is offensive coordinator number 2 under Coach Bullis that has scrapped that aspect of the previous championship teams. Maybe, just maybe, motion and shifting gives UWW the numerical advantage every now and then, along w the possibility of the slightest alignment confusion by the D, and maybe, just maybe, UWW running backs might have just a slightly greater chance of breaking longer runs.

Why doesn't the offense use more shorter passing routes like slants, crossing, outs and tight end routes? Again, all plays used very effectively two OC's ago.

Bombs are fun, but completion percentage is low and once UWW faces more athletic defensive backs, the percentage will get lower.

Why doesn't UWW employ the hurry-up offense more consistently?

After UWO I'll probably have more.

This team is far from perfect. It's ok to voice some concerns, and ask questions why things are done a certain way. I don't blame emma.

Of course you don't. It's all good. Emma is just trying to help. I think the answer to every one of his questions is the same. It's because no one is as smart as he is. I'm just trying to read his posts, absorb as much as I can, and try to keep up. I'll enjoy the fact we are 4-0 and you guys can evaluate, wring your hands, and ask questions that no one on a message board can or will answer.  We all enjoy football differently, just try to have fun among all your angst.

Hey, isn't that entrapment? I answer your "serious question" and you ridicule me- why do you do me that way? Unless of course you truly feel I'm the smartest man, which, if that's your opinion, you're entitled to it.
       

[emma17]

Emma,

On my never ending quest to figure out how your brain works, I have a serious question for you.  If Alex Peete had broken off 4 or 5 runs of 20 or more yards so far this year, which UW-W "shortcoming" would you be focused on right now?

In no particular order:
Why is there no motion or pre-snap shifts by the O? This is offensive coordinator number 2 under Coach Bullis that has scrapped that aspect of the previous championship teams. Maybe, just maybe, motion and shifting gives UWW the numerical advantage every now and then, along w the possibility of the slightest alignment confusion by the D, and maybe, just maybe, UWW running backs might have just a slightly greater chance of breaking longer runs.

Why doesn't the offense use more shorter passing routes like slants, crossing, outs and tight end routes? Again, all plays used very effectively two OC's ago.

Bombs are fun, but completion percentage is low and once UWW faces more athletic defensive backs, the percentage will get lower.

Why doesn't UWW employ the hurry-up offense more consistently?

After UWO I'll probably have more.

This team is far from perfect. It's ok to voice some concerns, and ask questions why things are done a certain way. I don't blame emma.

I will say that if the Hawks impress this weekend*, my confidence in them will skyrocket. I'm just nervous (surprise, surprise) on how Cole will hold up against a legit defense. As far as his decision making, accuracy, play calling, and when to take risks/play it save, etc...

*I'm in desperate need of a quality win from one of my sports teams after a brutal past couple of days.

LaCrosse's defense was legit?

BW, I think you're missing something here. 02 referred to UWO's defense as legit. I don't think he was saying UWL's defense was legit, but I could be wrong.

Imo, I didn't think the UWL defense was all that bad. I doubt they are UWO caliber, but I watched them keep UWW out of the end zone for the entire first half, allowing only 69 yards. It's pretty hard to do that and be "illegitimate", or is it?

[02 Warhawk]

Emma,

On my never ending quest to figure out how your brain works, I have a serious question for you.  If Alex Peete had broken off 4 or 5 runs of 20 or more yards so far this year, which UW-W "shortcoming" would you be focused on right now?

In no particular order:
Why is there no motion or pre-snap shifts by the O? This is offensive coordinator number 2 under Coach Bullis that has scrapped that aspect of the previous championship teams. Maybe, just maybe, motion and shifting gives UWW the numerical advantage every now and then, along w the possibility of the slightest alignment confusion by the D, and maybe, just maybe, UWW running backs might have just a slightly greater chance of breaking longer runs.

Why doesn't the offense use more shorter passing routes like slants, crossing, outs and tight end routes? Again, all plays used very effectively two OC's ago.

Bombs are fun, but completion percentage is low and once UWW faces more athletic defensive backs, the percentage will get lower.

Why doesn't UWW employ the hurry-up offense more consistently?

After UWO I'll probably have more.

This team is far from perfect. It's ok to voice some concerns, and ask questions why things are done a certain way. I don't blame emma.

I will say that if the Hawks impress this weekend*, my confidence in them will skyrocket. I'm just nervous (surprise, surprise) on how Cole will hold up against a legit defense. As far as his decision making, accuracy, play calling, and when to take risks/play it save, etc...

*I'm in desperate need of a quality win from one of my sports teams after a brutal past couple of days.

LaCrosse's defense was legit?

They were ok. But I'm referring to UWO

[WW]

LaCrosse D is legit enough. Their IWU win is standing up as a quality win. UWL isn't  a playoff team but alla y'all oughta be pretty happy that the UWW final score, on the road, reflected what good teams do to inferior teams.

[bleedpurple]

Emma,

On my never ending quest to figure out how your brain works, I have a serious question for you.  If Alex Peete had broken off 4 or 5 runs of 20 or more yards so far this year, which UW-W "shortcoming" would you be focused on right now?

In no particular order:
Why is there no motion or pre-snap shifts by the O? This is offensive coordinator number 2 under Coach Bullis that has scrapped that aspect of the previous championship teams. Maybe, just maybe, motion and shifting gives UWW the numerical advantage every now and then, along w the possibility of the slightest alignment confusion by the D, and maybe, just maybe, UWW running backs might have just a slightly greater chance of breaking longer runs.

Why doesn't the offense use more shorter passing routes like slants, crossing, outs and tight end routes? Again, all plays used very effectively two OC's ago.

Bombs are fun, but completion percentage is low and once UWW faces more athletic defensive backs, the percentage will get lower.

Why doesn't UWW employ the hurry-up offense more consistently?

After UWO I'll probably have more.

This team is far from perfect. It's ok to voice some concerns, and ask questions why things are done a certain way. I don't blame emma.

Of course you don't. It's all good. Emma is just trying to help. I think the answer to every one of his questions is the same. It's because no one is as smart as he is. I'm just trying to read his posts, absorb as much as I can, and try to keep up. I'll enjoy the fact we are 4-0 and you guys can evaluate, wring your hands, and ask questions that no one on a message board can or will answer.  We all enjoy football differently, just try to have fun among all your angst.

Hey, isn't that entrapment? I answer your "serious question" and you ridicule me- why do you do me that way? Unless of course you truly feel I'm the smartest man, which, if that's your opinion, you're entitled to it.
     

Our agreement regarding emoticons just masked my playful intent, that's all. Just a little ribbing about your ability to express your opinions and concerns in a way that could lead the unsuspecting reader to the conclusion that you believe you know more about football than the UW-W coaches. 

[bleedpurple]

Titans/Warhawks: These teams have split the last 6 match-ups. I don't think the game will look like last year's when the teams combined for 57 points. These are probably the two best defenses in the conference and two of the best in the country. Like it does most years, this game will come down to who wins the battle in the trenches and, likely, who protects the football better. The Titans offense has improved. Radavich looks more comfortable and has been efficient. The running game has been average (3.6 ypc), but it looked better last week. Perhaps they are settling in. This team still doesn't have the "wow" athletes that will win one-on-one battles every play. This team will need to move the ball with a methodical, controlled approach. I don't know if they can do that with any consistency against the Warhawks, but I don't think the Titans will waver from their game plan. I think they will be happy to punt the ball and rely on their defense, rather than try to be something they're not at this point. I think it will be Coach Cerroni's goal to make this a four-quarter game and try to steal a win in the 4th quarter. I think the Warhawks are more talented. Last year was the first time I really thought the Titans had more talent on the field than the Warhawks, and that resulted in a 37-point offensive effort for the Titans. I don't think that will happen this time. However, that being said, I have faith in the Titan coaching staff. They won't lose this game because they got outcoached. The Titans will be prepared and ready. This game very well could come down to the kicking game, and both teams have been solid. This should be a 17-14 game one way or the other. This is the Titans fifth road trip of the season. I expect a huge crowd of Warhawk faithful. The home field advantage could prove to be the difference. I can't wait to watch it ... oh wait, my daughter has her conference tennis meet. 

Good post! I appreciate your reasoned analysis.

One factual correction. Before last year, UW-W had won four of the previous 5 meeting with the Titans.  So in the last 6 meetings, UW-0 has won 2 and UW-W has won 4.  Still a very good record against us and one that no other team in the nation, including Mount Union, can claim.

I should have been more clear. I meant to say split the last 6 regular season match-ups. I wasn't including the 2015 playoff game that Whitewater won (often times when two evenly matched teams will play in the same season, they will split the games). I think the last 6 regular season games went this way:
2017: 37-20 Oshkosh
2016: 17-14 Whitewater
2015: 10-7 Oshkosh
2014: 24-7 Whitewater
2013: 17-14 Whitewater
2012: 28-13 Oshkosh

In any event, I would expect an even match-up come Saturday.

Not willing to throw out a playoff game, sorry. But your expectation of an even match-up come Saturday is perfectly reasonable!

[badgerwarhawk]

I knew you're referring to UW-0 (sorry Titan after the discussion last week I couldn't resist.) '02.  I misspoke and meant to ask "La Crosse's defense wasn't legit?"  They sure looked it the first half.  We wore them down in the second half in large part because we held the Eagle offense to less than 7 1/2 minutes TOP.   So their defense was on the field 4x longer than ours.   

Titan, for what it's worth my oldest daughter was a Titan VBall athlete.  I even bought a Titan polo to wear.  That was hard on me.   LOL

Note to self:  Proofread what you've wrote Badger.

[bleedpurple]

LaCrosse D is legit enough. Their IWU win is standing up as a quality win. UWL isn't  a playoff team but alla y'all oughta be pretty happy that the UWW final score, on the road, reflected what good teams do to inferior teams.

You are fighting an uphill battle WW. A few of our fans will not be happy until we win another Stagg Bowl. But PLEASE keep trying to give them perspective. It can be a lonely fight at times! 

[BoBo]

Emma,

On my never ending quest to figure out how your brain works, I have a serious question for you.  If Alex Peete had broken off 4 or 5 runs of 20 or more yards so far this year, which UW-W "shortcoming" would you be focused on right now?

In no particular order:
Why is there no motion or pre-snap shifts by the O? This is offensive coordinator number 2 under Coach Bullis that has scrapped that aspect of the previous championship teams. Maybe, just maybe, motion and shifting gives UWW the numerical advantage every now and then, along w the possibility of the slightest alignment confusion by the D, and maybe, just maybe, UWW running backs might have just a slightly greater chance of breaking longer runs.

Why doesn't the offense use more shorter passing routes like slants, crossing, outs and tight end routes? Again, all plays used very effectively two OC's ago.

Bombs are fun, but completion percentage is low and once UWW faces more athletic defensive backs, the percentage will get lower.

Why doesn't UWW employ the hurry-up offense more consistently?

After UWO I'll probably have more.

Here's one for ya:

Why did UWW take a knee to run out the clock in a victory...from the pistol formation? I've never seen such an asinine play. Well, they did at La Crosse last week. After that, nothing they do or don't do on offense will surprise me anymore. On second thought, taking a knee from the pistol formation is the second most asinine thing to report today...first by a landslide, trumps presidential wireless emergency alert system test notification.

BTW, the passing game can't run more shorter pass routes like slants, etc. because they spend all of their short route quota on bubble screens.

[bleedpurple]

Emma,

On my never ending quest to figure out how your brain works, I have a serious question for you.  If Alex Peete had broken off 4 or 5 runs of 20 or more yards so far this year, which UW-W "shortcoming" would you be focused on right now?

In no particular order:
Why is there no motion or pre-snap shifts by the O? This is offensive coordinator number 2 under Coach Bullis that has scrapped that aspect of the previous championship teams. Maybe, just maybe, motion and shifting gives UWW the numerical advantage every now and then, along w the possibility of the slightest alignment confusion by the D, and maybe, just maybe, UWW running backs might have just a slightly greater chance of breaking longer runs.

Why doesn't the offense use more shorter passing routes like slants, crossing, outs and tight end routes? Again, all plays used very effectively two OC's ago.

Bombs are fun, but completion percentage is low and once UWW faces more athletic defensive backs, the percentage will get lower.

Why doesn't UWW employ the hurry-up offense more consistently?

After UWO I'll probably have more.

Here's one for ya:

Why did UWW take a knee to run out the clock in a victory...from the pistol formation? I've never seen such an asinine play. Well, they did at La Crosse last week. After that, nothing they do or don't do on offense will surprise me anymore. On second thought, taking a knee from the pistol formation is the second most asinine thing to report today...first by a landslide, trumps presidential wireless emergency alert system test notification.

BTW, the passing game can't run more shorter pass routes like slants, etc. because they spend all of their short route quota on bubble screens.

Symptom of spoiled fan base: Complain about a play run out of victory formation.

[Brad]

I was at the Oshkosh vs UWRF game last weekend. UWRF hung around for the first half but Oshkosh looked like they were back to me. Their QB play which I have questioned up to this point was proved wrong. When the kid has time, he can sling it. UWRF looks like a 3-7 or 4-6 team again this year.

Weekend thoughts-

UWW vs UWO- This is going to go down to the wire. I think Oshkosh does enough to win this football game. UWO D is the real deal. 31-27 UWO

UWRF vs UWP- UWP surprised me in a close game with point. UWRF struggled to defend the pass. Haven't seen UWP at all yet this year. Give me UWP 28-21.

UWL vs UWS- I think this is a better game than most of us think it is. I get the warhawks are legit good on D. But to hold a team to 150 yards and have a coordinator change. UWL will be fighting this O all year I believe. Look for this to be a low scoring game. Give me UWL 21 UWS 14. This is the game that I will be attending.

UWEC vs Point- UWEC is improved. That doesn't mean they are good but they look like a WIAC football program. Point also looks much improved on paper. Point is having little success moving the football and the D is better than I thought it would be. GIve me Point 24 UWEC 10.

[retagent]

Emma,

On my never ending quest to figure out how your brain works, I have a serious question for you.  If Alex Peete had broken off 4 or 5 runs of 20 or more yards so far this year, which UW-W "shortcoming" would you be focused on right now?

In no particular order:
Why is there no motion or pre-snap shifts by the O? This is offensive coordinator number 2 under Coach Bullis that has scrapped that aspect of the previous championship teams. Maybe, just maybe, motion and shifting gives UWW the numerical advantage every now and then, along w the possibility of the slightest alignment confusion by the D, and maybe, just maybe, UWW running backs might have just a slightly greater chance of breaking longer runs.

Why doesn't the offense use more shorter passing routes like slants, crossing, outs and tight end routes? Again, all plays used very effectively two OC's ago.

Bombs are fun, but completion percentage is low and once UWW faces more athletic defensive backs, the percentage will get lower.

Why doesn't UWW employ the hurry-up offense more consistently?

After UWO I'll probably have more.

Here's one for ya:

Why did UWW take a knee to run out the clock in a victory...from the pistol formation? I've never seen such an asinine play. Well, they did at La Crosse last week. After that, nothing they do or don't do on offense will surprise me anymore. On second thought, taking a knee from the pistol formation is the second most asinine thing to report today...first by a landslide, trumps presidential wireless emergency alert system test notification.

BTW, the passing game can't run more shorter pass routes like slants, etc. because they spend all of their short route quota on bubble screens.

They may have been preparing that play for when/if they play St Thomes.

[WW]

I was at the Oshkosh vs UWRF game last weekend. UWRF hung around for the first half but Oshkosh looked like they were back to me. Their QB play which I have questioned up to this point was proved wrong. When the kid has time, he can sling it. UWRF looks like a 3-7 or 4-6 team again this year.

Weekend thoughts-

UWW vs UWO- This is going to go down to the wire. I think Oshkosh does enough to win this football game. UWO D is the real deal. 31-27 UWO

UWRF vs UWP- UWP surprised me in a close game with point. UWRF struggled to defend the pass. Haven't seen UWP at all yet this year. Give me UWP 28-21.

UWL vs UWS- I think this is a better game than most of us think it is. I get the warhawks are legit good on D. But to hold a team to 150 yards and have a coordinator change. UWL will be fighting this O all year I believe. Look for this to be a low scoring game. Give me UWL 21 UWS 14. This is the game that I will be attending.

UWEC vs Point- UWEC is improved. That doesn't mean they are good but they look like a WIAC football program. Point also looks much improved on paper. Point is having little success moving the football and the D is better than I thought it would be. GIve me Point 24 UWEC 10.

I'm with you on margin and winner of UWO-UWW but I don't think nearly that many points will be scored. 14-10. Can't argue with the rest of your prognostications. Stout's always a bit of a mystery.

[emma17]

Emma,

On my never ending quest to figure out how your brain works, I have a serious question for you.  If Alex Peete had broken off 4 or 5 runs of 20 or more yards so far this year, which UW-W "shortcoming" would you be focused on right now?

In no particular order:
Why is there no motion or pre-snap shifts by the O? This is offensive coordinator number 2 under Coach Bullis that has scrapped that aspect of the previous championship teams. Maybe, just maybe, motion and shifting gives UWW the numerical advantage every now and then, along w the possibility of the slightest alignment confusion by the D, and maybe, just maybe, UWW running backs might have just a slightly greater chance of breaking longer runs.

Why doesn't the offense use more shorter passing routes like slants, crossing, outs and tight end routes? Again, all plays used very effectively two OC's ago.

Bombs are fun, but completion percentage is low and once UWW faces more athletic defensive backs, the percentage will get lower.

Why doesn't UWW employ the hurry-up offense more consistently?

After UWO I'll probably have more.

This team is far from perfect. It's ok to voice some concerns, and ask questions why things are done a certain way. I don't blame emma.

Of course you don't. It's all good. Emma is just trying to help. I think the answer to every one of his questions is the same. It's because no one is as smart as he is. I'm just trying to read his posts, absorb as much as I can, and try to keep up. I'll enjoy the fact we are 4-0 and you guys can evaluate, wring your hands, and ask questions that no one on a message board can or will answer.  We all enjoy football differently, just try to have fun among all your angst.

Hey, isn't that entrapment? I answer your "serious question" and you ridicule me- why do you do me that way? Unless of course you truly feel I'm the smartest man, which, if that's your opinion, you're entitled to it.
     

Our agreement regarding emoticons just masked my playful intent, that's all. Just a little ribbing about your ability to express your opinions and concerns in a way that could lead the unsuspecting reader to the conclusion that you believe you know more about football than the UW-W coaches.

Understood on the emoticons.

There is this often repeated concept that a non coach can't possibly know more about football than a current coach. It may very well be true that I don't know more than any or all of the current UWW coaches, it may also be false, for all you know.
I will grant that current coaches certainly know more about the current players on the team, their practice results and other "insider" information. I just don't buy the argument that the title of "coach" somehow makes their approach/processes/decisions/philosophy beyond question. 

I want this coaching staff to give these players the absolute best chance to win the Stagg Bowl. That's all there is to it.

[Just the stats]

Emma,

On my never ending quest to figure out how your brain works, I have a serious question for you.  If Alex Peete had broken off 4 or 5 runs of 20 or more yards so far this year, which UW-W "shortcoming" would you be focused on right now?

In no particular order:
Why is there no motion or pre-snap shifts by the O? This is offensive coordinator number 2 under Coach Bullis that has scrapped that aspect of the previous championship teams. Maybe, just maybe, motion and shifting gives UWW the numerical advantage every now and then, along w the possibility of the slightest alignment confusion by the D, and maybe, just maybe, UWW running backs might have just a slightly greater chance of breaking longer runs.

Why doesn't the offense use more shorter passing routes like slants, crossing, outs and tight end routes? Again, all plays used very effectively two OC's ago.

Bombs are fun, but completion percentage is low and once UWW faces more athletic defensive backs, the percentage will get lower.

Why doesn't UWW employ the hurry-up offense more consistently?

After UWO I'll probably have more.

Here's one for ya:

Why did UWW take a knee to run out the clock in a victory...from the pistol formation? I've never seen such an asinine play. Well, they did at La Crosse last week. After that, nothing they do or don't do on offense will surprise me anymore. On second thought, taking a knee from the pistol formation is the second most asinine thing to report today...first by a landslide, trumps presidential wireless emergency alert system test notification.

I don't know that this applies 100 percent to UWW, but if you use pistol exclusively, why would you do something that you are unfamiliar with, a direct snap, to put the game away? The direct snap may be more of a risky play in that sense than a pistol snap.