FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[bleedpurple]

Also, local stud (Jefferson) running back Nolan Klawitter.

Klawitter's measurables are off the charts:

4.55  40
10'2"  broad jump
39"  vertical

[BoBo]

So they knew our terminology and schemes and they still couldn't do diddley squat against it.  LOL I don't know if it's illegal but it's obviously unethical.  It seems the whole thing started with Smith which seems kind of unproductive if he's considering coaching in the collegiate ranks again.  Who would hire someone who would do something like this?  From that perspective it's kind of pathetic.  He puts a huge black mark on his record for something that accomplished absolutely nothing.

My thought exactly when I read the story on Football Scoop. Talk about derailing your career. Even if you never want to coach again, what industry could you go into where this doesn't come up in an interview. Remember the internet is forever.  Well, I guess this type of thing would be celebrated in the political arena 

My thought was that if you can't even delete the email headers that show the forwarding history then how much can this info even help, anyways.  I used outline.com to read the article, so I'm not sure I got the whole thing, but do we know if this was proprietary UWW info or was it something that Smith typed up after his departure?  And do we know if the UWW terms are proprietary or just normal usage?  ie, "Cover three against XXX because they spread."

It was eight slides, right?  That's UWW's defensive scheme?  I've got to say that after the emotion settles, I would most likely think this is a Smith debrief and not corporate espionage.  But it's a hyper reactive world we live in so who knows.

It was 8 ppt presentations not 8 slides. Doesn't say how many slides.

[WW]

To me, as an alum, the main issue is three former UWW coaches engaging in this. There are lines you don't cross.

I struggle a bit with putting too much emphasis on the idea a head coach must teach high school grads character and integrity.

In my opinion, if a program doesn't emphasize the development of the WHOLE student athlete as a person, they are completely missing the boat. As Billy Graham said, "A coach will influence more people in a year than most people do in a lifetime." 

College age young men are still in their formative years in terms of who they are becoming as a person. I think most seniors would tell you they are completely different people than they were when they walked through the door as a freshman. I also think most alumni would look back on their years at UW-W and say they are absolutely better people for having been a part of the football program. Without exaggeration, I've probably heard it over a 100 times.

I have no love for UW-LaCrosse, but if that isn't important to them, I feel badly for the athletes there.

If you read the Bengtson personnel reports, I think you'd find that culture and a holistic treatment of the D3 student-athlete is very much central to the cause at UW-LaCrosse, so much so that they made the rare move of firing their OC mid-season because he didn't embrace that culture. I know you indeed may bleed purple, but I hardly think that UW-W football is unique or any better or any worse in making better people out of its athletes than any other WIAC school or sports team.

[WW]

To me, as an alum, the main issue is three former UWW coaches engaging in this. There are lines you don't cross.

I struggle a bit with putting too much emphasis on the idea a head coach must teach high school grads character and integrity.

In my opinion, if a program doesn't emphasize the development of the WHOLE student athlete as a person, they are completely missing the boat. As Billy Graham said, "A coach will influence more people in a year than most people do in a lifetime." 

College age young men are still in their formative years in terms of who they are becoming as a person. I think most seniors would tell you they are completely different people than they were when they walked through the door as a freshman. I also think most alumni would look back on their years at UW-W and say they are absolutely better people for having been a part of the football program. Without exaggeration, I've probably heard it over a 100 times.

I have no love for UW-LaCrosse, but if that isn't important to them, I feel badly for the athletes there.

If you read the Bengtson personnel reports, I think you'd find that culture and a holistic treatment of the D3 student-athlete is very much central to the cause at UW-LaCrosse, so much so that they made the rare move of firing their OC mid-season because he didn't embrace that culture. I know you indeed may bleed purple, but I hardly think that UW-W football is unique or any better or any worse in making better people out of its athletes than any other WIAC school or sports team.

If that is true, I'm thankful.  My issue would be if helping young people growing into men of character and integrity WEREN'T of primary importance in a program. I always thought that was the aim and, to be honest, I have always felt almost all D-III programs attempt to do a great job at that. I was more contending the notion that it isn't important.  But to be honest, that's what does concern me about what happened here. Trust me, I would be 1000% more disappointed if UW-W did something like this. And I'm pretty sure if you asked anyone in the program, they would affirm that.

And Ozjohnnie, before you jump in with another "high pony" comment, I find it hard to believe that you really believe the expectation of simple honesty and integrity represents a high pony. However, I do understand your point about over-reacting with little information., ala Covington. If this isn't what it appears to be, I will be the first to apologize.  I look forward to the coaches involved coming forward and providing pubic clarification if that's the case.

Welp, I'm gonna look elsewhere for my outrage today. My guess is we don't hear anything further by way of media, administration or coaches' statements from UWL, although the aggrieved coaches and players sure won't forget. Think I'll be betting UW-W and the "over" next fall...

[emma17]

To me, as an alum, the main issue is three former UWW coaches engaging in this. There are lines you don't cross.

I struggle a bit with putting too much emphasis on the idea a head coach must teach high school grads character and integrity.

In my opinion, if a program doesn't emphasize the development of the WHOLE student athlete as a person, they are completely missing the boat. As Billy Graham said, "A coach will influence more people in a year than most people do in a lifetime." 

College age young men are still in their formative years in terms of who they are becoming as a person. I think most seniors would tell you they are completely different people than they were when they walked through the door as a freshman. I also think most alumni would look back on their years at UW-W and say they are absolutely better people for having been a part of the football program. Without exaggeration, I've probably heard it over a 100 times.

I have no love for UW-LaCrosse, but if that isn't important to them, I feel badly for the athletes there.

You won't get an argument from me regarding the life-long benefits of having played football, or the maturation and personal development that occurs between freshman and senior year being part of a team.
I'm simply saying I am hesitant to put too much importance on the need for my son's head coach to teach him character and integrity. I think both are natural by-products of giving your all and putting team first, while in the company of other men and women that model proper behavior.

Nearly every coach of every program I see on television holds a play sheet in front of his face when calling plays. (I don't recall if D3 guys do the same). 

[WW]

Former UWSP WR Jake Dickert has been promoted to DC at Wyoming.

[cubs]

Also, local stud (Jefferson) running back Nolan Klawitter.

Klawitter's measurables are off the charts:

4.55  40
10'2"  broad jump
39"  vertical

Is that any relation to former Minnesota Twins pitcher Tom Klawitter?

[WW]

Also, local stud (Jefferson) running back Nolan Klawitter.

Klawitter's measurables are off the charts:

4.55  40
10'2"  broad jump
39"  vertical

Is that any relation to former Minnesota Twins pitcher Tom Klawitter?

Don't know, but Klaw happens to be the UWW pitching coach.

By the way, I'm sure the kid can ball, but a 4.55 40 is very much "on" the charts...

[emma17]

I watched Klawitter's Hudl and count me in as excited he's coming to UWW.
They ran a lot of double wing so we don't get to see him reading blocks from the backfield much, but I was impressed w his burst, open field moves, power and energy for the game. I tried to find a video of Justin Beaver in high school with no luck as I'd love to see a comparison. I know it's way too early to see him as the next Beaver, but I really liked what I saw.

[MUC57]

emma17

Not sure you'll ever find someone to compare with Beaver! Damn, he was good. Loved watching him play, even when he was running all over Mount Union. That guy named Coppage was "decent". He used to run all over Mount as well. Sure, you can say "pound the rock" when you have guys like that.
Whatever, hope to see UWW get back in the fight. They did pretty well last year. Don't particularly want the Raiders to have to play them, but let's see what happens. Go Warhawks! 🏈

[Sakman 1111]

Yeah, I guess you could say Coppage was "decent"...

[emma17]

Yeah, I guess you could say Coppage was "decent"...

My grandmother could have made all-conference behind those offensive lines.


(smiley face)

[MUC57]

Yeah, I guess you could say Coppage was "decent"...

That was tongue in cheek. Coppage got very close to breaking several records of Mount Union's Nate Kmic. He was more than decent. He was a standout. I'm a fan of great players, whatever uniform they wear. He's in that group!   

[badgerwarhawk]

I watched Klawitter’s Hudl and count me in as excited he’s coming to UWW.
They ran a lot of double wing so we don’t get to see him reading blocks from the backfield much, but I was impressed w his burst, open field moves, power and energy for the game. I tried to find a video of Justin Beaver in high school with no luck as I’d love to see a comparison. I know it’s way too early to see him as the next Beaver, but I really liked what I saw.

i've seen Klawitter play several times in the last couple of years.  He's a decent running back.  Jefferson is such a run heavy program that defenses tend to stack the box and when they go out of the league, particulary in the post season, he struggles.  Hopefully playing with an offense that is more balanced will help him.  At any rate he's a nice addition.   

[cubs]

Based on reports, it sounds like Head Coach Pat Cerroni and his staff at UW-Oshkosh are putting together a nice recruiting class this year. 2018 Elroy "Crazy Legs" Hirsch award recipient (and the All Time Leading Rusher in the State of Wisconsin) Bryce Huettner (Iola-Scandinavia) & Dave Krieg award winner Cody Staerkel (Kimberly) headline a solid group of recruits. 

Here is a little information on both:

QB Cody Staerkel (Kimberly)
https://www.wissports.net/news_article/show/968515

RB Bryce Huettner (Iola Scandinavia)
https://www.wissports.net/news_article/show/968521