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02 Warhawk

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Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 13, 2019, 02:48:06 PM
Quote from: emma17 on December 13, 2019, 12:34:12 PM
I myself am a big fan of great blocking.
But here's a question to anyone. Would you rather have:
Good blocking and a great/Gagliardi winning QB, or
Great blocking and a good QB?

Linfield 2004 vs. UWW 2005? :)

I think the 2005 Linfield/UWW game is a great example of that.

Best QB in the country against a team that was great at blocking with a good QB.

(I would give my left arm to see a replay of that game. I was only able to catch the final few minutes of it on the radio)

02 Warhawk

Well...it looks like all six on the D3 panel picked UWW to lose, again.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on December 13, 2019, 03:11:28 PM
Well...it looks like all six on the D3 panel picked UWW to lose, again.

Surprised by that, to be sure!
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WW

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on December 13, 2019, 03:11:28 PM
Well...it looks like all six on the D3 panel picked UWW to lose, again.

Interesting. I view them as slight favorites.

02 Warhawk

Quote from: WW on December 13, 2019, 03:38:10 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on December 13, 2019, 03:11:28 PM
Well...it looks like all six on the D3 panel picked UWW to lose, again.

Interesting. I view them as slight favorites.

I slightly agree with them, actually. I'm curious what UWW's defense can do that Wheaton's couldn't. It still blows my mind that Wheaton shutdown NCC's top ranked offense....then last week happened when SJU came to town. Johnnie's got a little lucky at the end, so who knows how the game would have turned out if the center didn't spike the ball.

I'll gladly eat crow Saturday night if I'm wrong.

sfury

Quote from: BoBo on December 13, 2019, 02:21:51 PM
Quote from: retagent on December 12, 2019, 10:49:34 PM
I think there is a world of difference between the attitudes from 2005 and now. I'll admit, I was a little dismissive of UWW back then, since they really hadn't won anything. Over the years, I, and other Johnnie fans, have learned to respect UWW as a now perrenial threat to go all the way. The banter still has an edge, but there's also a poke in the ribs quality to the jabs. It's fun, but not all unserious. Personally, I'm getting a little sick if seing the Johnnies season end in Whitewater. Let's hope that part of the story changes. If it does, there will still be respect from this side.

I did meet another Warhawk grad as I was working out today, and just happened to be wearing a Johnnie T shirt. Nice fellow who will be in the other stands on Saturday.

I actually have a lot to say to you retagent after reading through this, but I will pass since you made it too easy.

But what I really want to ask is this -- I read through the st. johns game notes or whatever it is called and would like to know if the johnnies travel with any player on their roster not named Erdman? My Lord, his name was plastered all over that document, it must have been mentioned a gazillion times. I guess the rest of the team must realize who buys the lunch on that squad. Reading that thing leaves the impression that SJU is a one man team. Who's the back-up and does he have any experience other than 4th quarter mop-up duty? This is in case Mr. Erdman gets sick before tomorrow or (gulp) injured during the game.

They do, indeed. A guy named Erdmann is on the team. Hopefully be seeing a lot of him tomorrow!  ;)

bleedpurple

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on December 13, 2019, 03:47:28 PM
Quote from: WW on December 13, 2019, 03:38:10 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on December 13, 2019, 03:11:28 PM
Well...it looks like all six on the D3 panel picked UWW to lose, again.

Interesting. I view them as slight favorites.

I slightly agree with them, actually. I'm curious what UWW's defense can do that Wheaton's couldn't. It still blows my mind that Wheaton shutdown NCC's top ranked offense....then last week happened when SJU came to town. Johnnie's got a little lucky at the end, so who knows how the game would have turned out if the center didn't spike the ball.

I'll gladly eat crow Saturday night if I'm wrong.

You certainly know what it tastes like by now.

bleedpurple

Quote from: sfury on December 13, 2019, 04:09:30 PM
Quote from: BoBo on December 13, 2019, 02:21:51 PM
Quote from: retagent on December 12, 2019, 10:49:34 PM
I think there is a world of difference between the attitudes from 2005 and now. I'll admit, I was a little dismissive of UWW back then, since they really hadn't won anything. Over the years, I, and other Johnnie fans, have learned to respect UWW as a now perrenial threat to go all the way. The banter still has an edge, but there's also a poke in the ribs quality to the jabs. It's fun, but not all unserious. Personally, I'm getting a little sick if seing the Johnnies season end in Whitewater. Let's hope that part of the story changes. If it does, there will still be respect from this side.

I did meet another Warhawk grad as I was working out today, and just happened to be wearing a Johnnie T shirt. Nice fellow who will be in the other stands on Saturday.

I actually have a lot to say to you retagent after reading through this, but I will pass since you made it too easy.

But what I really want to ask is this -- I read through the st. johns game notes or whatever it is called and would like to know if the johnnies travel with any player on their roster not named Erdman? My Lord, his name was plastered all over that document, it must have been mentioned a gazillion times. I guess the rest of the team must realize who buys the lunch on that squad. Reading that thing leaves the impression that SJU is a one man team. Who's the back-up and does he have any experience other than 4th quarter mop-up duty? This is in case Mr. Erdman gets sick before tomorrow or (gulp) injured during the game.

They do, indeed. A guy named Erdmann is on the team. Hopefully be seeing a lot of him tomorrow!  ;)

Looking forward to seeing him play. He's the most hyped QB we've played against since Kevin Burke.

02 Warhawk

Quote from: bleedpurple on December 13, 2019, 04:48:23 PM
Quote from: sfury on December 13, 2019, 04:09:30 PM
Quote from: BoBo on December 13, 2019, 02:21:51 PM
Quote from: retagent on December 12, 2019, 10:49:34 PM
I think there is a world of difference between the attitudes from 2005 and now. I'll admit, I was a little dismissive of UWW back then, since they really hadn't won anything. Over the years, I, and other Johnnie fans, have learned to respect UWW as a now perrenial threat to go all the way. The banter still has an edge, but there's also a poke in the ribs quality to the jabs. It's fun, but not all unserious. Personally, I'm getting a little sick if seing the Johnnies season end in Whitewater. Let's hope that part of the story changes. If it does, there will still be respect from this side.

I did meet another Warhawk grad as I was working out today, and just happened to be wearing a Johnnie T shirt. Nice fellow who will be in the other stands on Saturday.

I actually have a lot to say to you retagent after reading through this, but I will pass since you made it too easy.

But what I really want to ask is this -- I read through the st. johns game notes or whatever it is called and would like to know if the johnnies travel with any player on their roster not named Erdman? My Lord, his name was plastered all over that document, it must have been mentioned a gazillion times. I guess the rest of the team must realize who buys the lunch on that squad. Reading that thing leaves the impression that SJU is a one man team. Who's the back-up and does he have any experience other than 4th quarter mop-up duty? This is in case Mr. Erdman gets sick before tomorrow or (gulp) injured during the game.

They do, indeed. A guy named Erdmann is on the team. Hopefully be seeing a lot of him tomorrow!  ;)

Looking forward to seeing him play. He's the most hyped QB we've played against since Kevin Burke.

I see what you did there.

:-X

Retired Old Rat

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on December 13, 2019, 04:56:18 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on December 13, 2019, 04:48:23 PM
Quote from: sfury on December 13, 2019, 04:09:30 PM
Quote from: BoBo on December 13, 2019, 02:21:51 PM
Quote from: retagent on December 12, 2019, 10:49:34 PM
I think there is a world of difference between the attitudes from 2005 and now. I'll admit, I was a little dismissive of UWW back then, since they really hadn't won anything. Over the years, I, and other Johnnie fans, have learned to respect UWW as a now perrenial threat to go all the way. The banter still has an edge, but there's also a poke in the ribs quality to the jabs. It's fun, but not all unserious. Personally, I'm getting a little sick if seing the Johnnies season end in Whitewater. Let's hope that part of the story changes. If it does, there will still be respect from this side.

I did meet another Warhawk grad as I was working out today, and just happened to be wearing a Johnnie T shirt. Nice fellow who will be in the other stands on Saturday.

I actually have a lot to say to you retagent after reading through this, but I will pass since you made it too easy.

But what I really want to ask is this -- I read through the st. johns game notes or whatever it is called and would like to know if the johnnies travel with any player on their roster not named Erdman? My Lord, his name was plastered all over that document, it must have been mentioned a gazillion times. I guess the rest of the team must realize who buys the lunch on that squad. Reading that thing leaves the impression that SJU is a one man team. Who's the back-up and does he have any experience other than 4th quarter mop-up duty? This is in case Mr. Erdman gets sick before tomorrow or (gulp) injured during the game.

They do, indeed. A guy named Erdmann is on the team. Hopefully be seeing a lot of him tomorrow!  ;)

Looking forward to seeing him play. He's the most hyped QB we've played against since Kevin Burke.

I see what you did there.

:-X

I made that same post, deleted it when I saw you beat me to it.
   
National Champions: 1963, 1965, 1976, 2003

D O.C.

<< Linfield 2004 vs. UWW 2005 >>
That was a great WW running back in that one.

emma17

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on December 13, 2019, 02:55:23 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 13, 2019, 02:48:06 PM
Quote from: emma17 on December 13, 2019, 12:34:12 PM
I myself am a big fan of great blocking.
But here's a question to anyone. Would you rather have:
Good blocking and a great/Gagliardi winning QB, or
Great blocking and a good QB?

Linfield 2004 vs. UWW 2005? :)

I think the 2005 Linfield/UWW game is a great example of that.

Best QB in the country against a team that was great at blocking with a good QB.

(I would give my left arm to see a replay of that game. I was only able to catch the final few minutes of it on the radio)

Great example Pat.
I don't know that there is a right or wrong answer as it's probably preference. Although, the more I think about WW examples, the clearer the answer, 2007 vs Greg Micheli and Mt, UWW won- is another example.

That said, I also believe the passing game can be the great equalizer, even when you don't have the best blocking. But the passing game requires near flawless execution.

Retired Old Rat

   
National Champions: 1963, 1965, 1976, 2003

02 Warhawk

Quote from: D O.C. on December 13, 2019, 08:25:10 PM
<< Linfield 2004 vs. UWW 2005 >>
That was a great WW running back in that one.

Yes. Yes he was

BoBo

I'VE REACHED THAT AGE
WHERE MY BRAIN GOES
FROM "YOU PROBABLY
SHOULDN'T SAY THAT," TO
"WHAT THE HELL, LET'S SEE
WHAT HAPPENS."