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badgerwarhawk

Quote from: wally_wabash on December 18, 2019, 06:52:25 PM
Quote from: emma17 on December 18, 2019, 06:18:26 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on December 18, 2019, 03:37:41 PM
Quote from: emma17 on December 18, 2019, 03:18:00 PM
I’m not sure SJU’s Oline didn’t perform well. I watched their left tackle a bit and he was a wall. I give the UWW D line guys credit as they never let up on him, but he was tough.
My take on the line play was the UWW D linemen played a phenomenal game, as opposed to the SJU Oline being a problem. UWW guys were making incredibly athletic plays to get in the backfield. Maybe NCC’s Oline guys will be more athletic- I don’t know.

The challenge of Mr. Kamienski will be interesting to watch. I don’t get the feeling UWW will go to man coverage on him as much.
This is where the good guys from UWW can draw on the experience of having to contend w a certain Mr. Garcon.

Garcon?  Current players were like 9 years old when UWW played against Garcon.

Here I thought Rindahl, Griz, Raebel and the whole crew would be taking the field.

We had the same conversation last week regarding UWW DB's not getting beat deep vs SJU. It was only one game, but somehow, someway, the UWW D found a way to do what other teams couldn't.
I believe there are benefits to experience and tradition.

I just find it curious how folks that have been bumping around on these boards for 10 or 15 or 20 years talk about these things like the games being played presently are part of the same, uninterrupted, 20-year season.  At times, I'm guilty of it also but try to be a bit more self-aware when I start to go down that particular rabbit hole. 

Anyway, don't think Garcon has anything to do with Friday.  Kamienski is excellent, obviously.  He's not Garcon- and that's not in any way a knock on Kamienski. 


My favorite is the "we're not the same team we were earlier in the season."  Ok, but what about them? 
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Quote from: HScoach on December 18, 2019, 07:31:04 PM
Kaminsky is a stud.  But comparing him to Garcon is ridiculous.   Garcon was an outlier at D3.  Kaminsky is a GREAT D3 receiver,  but has a D3 body.   He's much more like Adam Marino than Pierre Garcon.  Great route runner and catches everything.  Not a physical freak.

I bet I'm one of the few non-Mount posters who remembers Adam Marino.  Saw him in the 2000 Stagg.
   
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emma17

Quote from: HScoach on December 18, 2019, 07:31:04 PM
Kaminsky is a stud.  But comparing him to Garcon is ridiculous.   Garcon was an outlier at D3.  Kaminsky is a GREAT D3 receiver,  but has a D3 body.   He's much more like Adam Marino than Pierre Garcon.  Great route runner and catches everything.  Not a physical freak.

Really? You think it's necessary to tell us (or me) that Kamienski isn't as studly great as Garçon?
Was never my point.
The point is, Kamienski is dominating D3 defenses, to the tune of breaking the single season TD receptions record. To me, that sort of indicates UWW will have to find a way to slow him down. To me, they can look back at any number of great teams they've played in the past, especially teams w receivers that are dominating the division. The fact is, there aren't too many receivers that have dominated the division in the manner Garcon and Kamienski did/are. Soooooo, I figured, UWW can look at their own history of playing a guy like Garcon, especially the 2007 game, not only for ideas, but again, for proof to the players that defending a player of that caliber is possible.





emma17

Quote from: wally_wabash on December 18, 2019, 06:52:25 PM
Quote from: emma17 on December 18, 2019, 06:18:26 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on December 18, 2019, 03:37:41 PM
Quote from: emma17 on December 18, 2019, 03:18:00 PM
I'm not sure SJU's Oline didn't perform well. I watched their left tackle a bit and he was a wall. I give the UWW D line guys credit as they never let up on him, but he was tough.
My take on the line play was the UWW D linemen played a phenomenal game, as opposed to the SJU Oline being a problem. UWW guys were making incredibly athletic plays to get in the backfield. Maybe NCC's Oline guys will be more athletic- I don't know.

The challenge of Mr. Kamienski will be interesting to watch. I don't get the feeling UWW will go to man coverage on him as much.
This is where the good guys from UWW can draw on the experience of having to contend w a certain Mr. Garcon.

Garcon?  Current players were like 9 years old when UWW played against Garcon.

Here I thought Rindahl, Griz, Raebel and the whole crew would be taking the field.

We had the same conversation last week regarding UWW DB's not getting beat deep vs SJU. It was only one game, but somehow, someway, the UWW D found a way to do what other teams couldn't.
I believe there are benefits to experience and tradition.

I just find it curious how folks that have been bumping around on these boards for 10 or 15 or 20 years talk about these things like the games being played presently are part of the same, uninterrupted, 20-year season.  At times, I'm guilty of it also but try to be a bit more self-aware when I start to go down that particular rabbit hole. 

Anyway, don't think Garcon has anything to do with Friday.  Kamienski is excellent, obviously.  He's not Garcon- and that's not in any way a knock on Kamienski.

And I think you're wrong. Very wrong.

HScoach

Quote from: emma17 on December 18, 2019, 08:59:27 PM
Quote from: HScoach on December 18, 2019, 07:31:04 PM
Kaminsky is a stud.  But comparing him to Garcon is ridiculous.   Garcon was an outlier at D3.  Kaminsky is a GREAT D3 receiver,  but has a D3 body.   He's much more like Adam Marino than Pierre Garcon.  Great route runner and catches everything.  Not a physical freak.

Really? You think it's necessary to tell us (or me) that Kamienski isn't as studly great as Garçon?
Was never my point.
The point is, Kamienski is dominating D3 defenses, to the tune of breaking the single season TD receptions record. To me, that sort of indicates UWW will have to find a way to slow him down. To me, they can look back at any number of great teams they've played in the past, especially teams w receivers that are dominating the division. The fact is, there aren't too many receivers that have dominated the division in the manner Garcon and Kamienski did/are. Soooooo, I figured, UWW can look at their own history of playing a guy like Garcon, especially the 2007 game, not only for ideas, but again, for proof to the players that defending a player of that caliber is possible.

Different kind of players.   Garcon was a physical freak.  From what I've seen, Kaminsky is a great tactician.   Both studs.  Both dominant.  But for different reasons.
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Quote from: emma17 on December 18, 2019, 09:00:51 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on December 18, 2019, 06:52:25 PM
Quote from: emma17 on December 18, 2019, 06:18:26 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on December 18, 2019, 03:37:41 PM
Quote from: emma17 on December 18, 2019, 03:18:00 PM
I'm not sure SJU's Oline didn't perform well. I watched their left tackle a bit and he was a wall. I give the UWW D line guys credit as they never let up on him, but he was tough.
My take on the line play was the UWW D linemen played a phenomenal game, as opposed to the SJU Oline being a problem. UWW guys were making incredibly athletic plays to get in the backfield. Maybe NCC's Oline guys will be more athletic- I don't know.

The challenge of Mr. Kamienski will be interesting to watch. I don't get the feeling UWW will go to man coverage on him as much.
This is where the good guys from UWW can draw on the experience of having to contend w a certain Mr. Garcon.

Garcon?  Current players were like 9 years old when UWW played against Garcon.

Here I thought Rindahl, Griz, Raebel and the whole crew would be taking the field.

We had the same conversation last week regarding UWW DB's not getting beat deep vs SJU. It was only one game, but somehow, someway, the UWW D found a way to do what other teams couldn't.
I believe there are benefits to experience and tradition.

I just find it curious how folks that have been bumping around on these boards for 10 or 15 or 20 years talk about these things like the games being played presently are part of the same, uninterrupted, 20-year season.  At times, I'm guilty of it also but try to be a bit more self-aware when I start to go down that particular rabbit hole. 

Anyway, don't think Garcon has anything to do with Friday.  Kamienski is excellent, obviously.  He's not Garcon- and that's not in any way a knock on Kamienski.

And I think you're wrong. Very wrong.

Gawd. If they waste a millisecond thinking about 2007, they'll have wasted a millisecond.

MonroviaCat

Quote from: D O.C. on December 16, 2019, 01:05:31 AM
Bedtime Bluenote, for criminy sakes!
apparently Pat agreed—Blue tells me he's been "muted"
Go Cats!

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Quote from: MonroviaCat on December 18, 2019, 11:21:51 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on December 16, 2019, 01:05:31 AM
Bedtime Bluenote, for criminy sakes!
apparently Pat agreed—Blue tells me he's been "muted"

Looks like a few more than just Bluenote got muted recently.

02 Warhawk

Quote from: RoyalsFan on December 19, 2019, 01:10:13 AM
Quote from: MonroviaCat on December 18, 2019, 11:21:51 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on December 16, 2019, 01:05:31 AM
Bedtime Bluenote, for criminy sakes!
apparently Pat agreed—Blue tells me he's been "muted"

Looks like a few more than just Bluenote got muted recently.

I was going to say, Oz has been quiet for once.

bleedpurple

In the podcast, when Pat said someone will likely pick against the Warhawks for the third straight week, did he tell us to "deal with it"? If so, what does that even mean?

footballfan413

Quote from: BoBo on December 18, 2019, 11:43:04 PM
RIP Herman Boone, immortalized by Denzel Washington in "Remember the Titans" has died at the age of 84 in Virginia. Loved that movie.
Oh, no!  I am very sad.  My favorite movie of all time.............  :( :'( :'(

RIP, Coach Boone.
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retagent

Quote from: bleedpurple on December 19, 2019, 08:37:21 AM
In the podcast, when Pat said someone will likely pick against the Warhawks for the third straight week, did he tell us to "deal with it"? If so, what does that even mean?

When I saw that all six picked SJU last week, I knew we were doomed.  Deal with the fact that opinions, even informed opinions, are just that. I would actually be hoping that UWW will not be a unanimous choice,

bleedpurple

Quote from: retagent on December 19, 2019, 09:10:29 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on December 19, 2019, 08:37:21 AM
In the podcast, when Pat said someone will likely pick against the Warhawks for the third straight week, did he tell us to "deal with it"? If so, what does that even mean?

When I saw that all six picked SJU last week, I knew we were doomed.  Deal with the fact that opinions, even informed opinions, are just that. I would actually be hoping that UWW will not be a unanimous choice,

Trust me. I'm with you on that. I think, not positive, but THINK, most of us realize that the informed opinions are not personal and that picking against UW-W does not equal "UW-W is terrible".  And it certainly doesn't impact the outcome. Maybe it's my biased eyes doing the reading, but last week, the tone in a few of write ups seemed to be, "I really think this is a toss up, but since I've got to pick someone..."

wesleydad

I am looking forward to this game.  I think it will be similar to the SJU/UWW game.  As many have stated it looks like line play will determine the outcome.  I am picking NCC 31 - 30, but will not be stunned at all if UWW wins it.  Wish the game was in Salem because I would definitely be going.