FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[bleedpurple]

Oddity in Top 25

The WIAC has 5 teams in the top 25.  And only one of them have a better than .500 record.  Combined record: 6-4. Those participating in the poll understand that all losses are not the same. And all wins are not the same. Let's hope that concept isn't lost on the Selection Committee at the end of the year.

[emma17]

Best football weekend ever  

Bigger upset?

UWW over MHB
     -or-
Bears over 49ers

I'd add:
Kansas over West Virginia. An epic game and win.

The 99 yard drive to win the game takes the cake though.

[GBMAN]

Amazing game and bounce back from last week.

[wally_wabash]

Oddity in Top 25

The WIAC has 5 teams in the top 25.  And only one of them have a better than .500 record.  Combined record: 6-4. Those participating in the poll understand that all losses are not the same. And all wins are not the same. Let's hope that concept isn't lost on the Selection Committee at the end of the year.

The selection committee has specific criteria to adhere to that the Top 25 voters do not.

[OzJohnnie]

Oddity in Top 25

The WIAC has 5 teams in the top 25.  And only one of them have a better than .500 record.  Combined record: 6-4. Those participating in the poll understand that all losses are not the same. And all wins are not the same. Let's hope that concept isn't lost on the Selection Committee at the end of the year.

The selection committee has specific criteria to adhere to that the Top 25 voters do not.

The best that will happen is two teams out of the WIAC.  If neither of those teams is UWW or UWRF then I guess we will have likely seen the end of the ultimate Clash of the Titans beginning to seasons as soon as the current agreements are finished.

[bleedpurple]

Oddity in Top 25

The WIAC has 5 teams in the top 25.  And only one of them have a better than .500 record.  Combined record: 6-4. Those participating in the poll understand that all losses are not the same. And all wins are not the same. Let's hope that concept isn't lost on the Selection Committee at the end of the year.

The selection committee has specific criteria to adhere to that the Top 25 voters do not.

Very true.  It's the "adhere to" part that seems to have murky application from year to year. Let's not pretend they have no discretion.  Otherwise, an 8-2 team would never be chosen over an inferior 9-1 team.  And that's historically not true. It HAS happened.  And my position is that since it HAS happened before, it needs to happen more often.

[Pat Coleman]

They definitely have discretion, but they apply it vastly differently from year to year and committee to committee.

[wally_wabash]

Oddity in Top 25

The WIAC has 5 teams in the top 25.  And only one of them have a better than .500 record.  Combined record: 6-4. Those participating in the poll understand that all losses are not the same. And all wins are not the same. Let's hope that concept isn't lost on the Selection Committee at the end of the year.

The selection committee has specific criteria to adhere to that the Top 25 voters do not.

Very true.  It's the "adhere to" part that seems to have murky application from year to year. Let's not pretend they have no discretion.  Otherwise, an 8-2 team would never be chosen over an inferior 9-1 team.  And that's historically not true. It HAS happened.  And my position is that since it HAS happened before, it needs to happen more often.

Win pct. is just one criteria.  Selections are made with consideration to all of the criteria, not just win percentage. 

[uwwcontra2007]

Well.  Now that I've recovered (mostly) from Saturday's game, I can finally post on here.

I went into this game hoping to at least keep it close.  After last week's loss to St. John's, I didn't know what to expect from the Hawks.  I told my buddy / Fraternity Brother / Tuba brother Matt on the way into the game that it would be close, 21-17 final, and the first team to get into the red zone and not score the touchdown would prove to be on the short end.  I was close on that, and again, I did not think it would be my Hawks coming out the victor.

They still have some things to work on, and the conference schedule is going to be extra tough this year, with the gauntlet of Oshkosh, Platteville, and River Falls back-to-back-to-back (thankfully only UWP on the road), and the usual WIAC shenanigans that tend to happen with one of the toughest, if not THE toughest conferences in the nation at this level.  I am hopeful that when all is said and done, we won't be the ones sweating out a Pool C berth on November 13.

Also, the band looked pretty damn good in their new uniforms, just saying.

[uwwcontra2007]

They definitely have discretion, but they apply it vastly differently from year to year and committee to committee.

Also, I forgot to ask, was that you at the game this weekend?  I saw you coming up the stairs by the band, and had noticed the big D3 logo on your polo.  If so, hope you enjoyed the day at Whitewater!

[Pat Coleman]

They definitely have discretion, but they apply it vastly differently from year to year and committee to committee.

Also, I forgot to ask, was that you at the game this weekend?  I saw you coming up the stairs by the band, and had noticed the big D3 logo on your polo.  If so, hope you enjoyed the day at Whitewater!

That was me! I always love a great game and great atmosphere and I don't even mind climbing all those steps because goodness knows I need the exercise.

[Toby Taff]

Still at a loss on what went down today. Especially since all this being true:

1. UWW got whooped pretty bad in whitewater against MHB less than a year ago. Warhawks had a stacked lineup - full of talent - that year, who many of felt confident would bring home a 7th Stagg Bowl.

2. After that season our entire offense was gutted. I think only one (maybe two) starters from 2021 started today. Including a whole new set of o-linemen. So much unknown and rebuilding to do.

3. MHB brought back their studs from offense. Including 2 who will likely get Gagliardi Trophy considerations. Or should be considered  at least.

4. This very green UWW team looked like an absolute train wreck last week against an opponent who's suppose to be inferior to MHB. No offense Johnnies.

5. MHB went on to win the Stagg Bowl last year and have been the unanimous #1 team in the country this year. 

How all this adds up to UWW winning this game will keep me up tonight. 

As a Cru fan I'll do my best to answer.

1.Game was late in the year, after the wake up call against HSU and the D for UMHB was heavily stacked with upper classmen who could make play after play, which in turn gave the offense time on the field and this offense can score and score quickly, but has to be on the field to do it.

2. While UMHB returns much of the O, the D has mostly freshman and sophomores. Coach said last week he thought it would be week 5 before they started looking like a Crusader defense because the Backers aren't used to calling defenses yet and need the experience to figure it out. Also, Fritz is gone, and everybody can focus elsewhere when Fritz shuts down half the field

3.Offense studs returned, but only had 3 possessions in the first half, and a total of 8 including the 13 seconds at the end. scored on half of them, but no possession = no points

4. The week 1 to week 2 transformation is real, and in this case is aided by the Ds inexperience.

5. UMHB may very well do the same this year. The offense can really fly (not sure why they waited til the 4th to bring out all the guns) and if the HSU game goes well, the Cru D will be full grown come play off time. UWW was great on Saturday, but basically played to a tie (given the notion of homefield worth 3-4 pts), which tells me an experienced D will make this team scary.

I hope no one misunderstands me and thinks I think of this as more of a UMHB loss than a UWW win. UWW won. It made a great goal line stand and executed a fantastic 2 minute drill for the victory. Even with the loss one of the best D3 games I've seen, and I have seen some craziness in games between UWW and UMHb over the years. This just adds to the legend of the series.

[Toby Taff]

Still at a loss on what went down today. Especially since all this being true:

1. UWW got whooped pretty bad in whitewater against MHB less than a year ago. Warhawks had a stacked lineup - full of talent - that year, who many of felt confident would bring home a 7th Stagg Bowl.

2. After that season our entire offense was gutted. I think only one (maybe two) starters from 2021 started today. Including a whole new set of o-linemen. So much unknown and rebuilding to do.

3. MHB brought back their studs from offense. Including 2 who will likely get Gagliardi Trophy considerations. Or should be considered  at least.

4. This very green UWW team looked like an absolute train wreck last week against an opponent who's suppose to be inferior to MHB. No offense Johnnies.

5. MHB went on to win the Stagg Bowl last year and have been the unanimous #1 team in the country this year. 

How all this adds up to UWW winning this game will keep me up tonight. 

  I haven't checked in there yet, but I suspect you can find any number of explanations on the ASC board.   

actually still a lot of silence

[bleedpurple]

UWW was great on Saturday, but basically played to a tie (given the notion of homefield worth 3-4 pts), which tells me an experienced D will make this team scary.

I'm sure the CRU defense will improve as the season goes along. I'm not going to question that. But according to the box score, on defense the CRU started:

5 seniors
4 juniors
2 sophomores

UW-W, who have only one returning starter on offense, have an offensive starting lineup consisting of:

4 seniors
3 juniors
4 sophomores

So, very reasonable to assume improvement by both teams if we are to meet again, no?

[KitchenSink]

Reading stories today saying Nebraska needs to look at Lance Leipold for head coach. Awesome!