FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[farley101]

Thanks farley101 +K came your way before!

Hey my pleasure!  It was great to spend some time being a "neutral" observer (I was pulling for UWW, the elitist SCSU student section rubbed me the wrong way from the get go, and I generally don't care for SCSU athletics in general).  UWW was tough and I think gave a good showing for DIII, they never gave up and made it a lot closer than the SCSU backers would have thought. 

[TC]

To echo Farley's comment, the kick on the blocked field goal was a low line drive.  It was a good push by SCSU, but it didn't much matter--it would have been blocked at the line of scrimmage if another guy didn't get to it sooner.

What is the prevailing opinion on Danny Jones?  It looked like he threw a decent enough ball, but really didn't have much idea where it was headed.  He overthrew a bunch of deep balls and almost got a couple of his receivers killed with poorly placed throws.

Then again, his receivers didn't do much to help him, especially Jordan Wells who seemed to drop everything he touched in the first half.  The late drop in the end zone (to Gifford, I believe) was really a killer.

I'd guess the postgame stats will paint the picture of a pretty even game.  Beaver was a his usual great self, but most of his big plays came on draws after the Warhawks were relegated to primarily throwing the ball.  While I'd guess the yards were close to even, every mistake was made by UW-W and unfortunately every bad bounce went against them. 

I'd imagine the Johnnies will see the Warhawks again this year--I just hope it's a return engagement to mid-Minnesota.  I expect to have a full game recap up at www.johnniefootball.com tomorrow morning.

[d2observer]

Hey my pleasure!  It was great to spend some time being a "neutral" observer (I was pulling for UWW, the elitist SCSU student section rubbed me the wrong way from the get go, and I generally don't care for SCSU athletics in general).  UWW was tough and I think gave a good showing for DIII, they never gave up and made it a lot closer than the SCSU backers would have thought. 
[/quote]

As a SCSU backer this game went exactly how I thought it would go.  The game was never in jeopardy for SCSU and their coaches did nothing to jeopardize momentum or potential big plays by Whitewater.   The entire game was controlled by SCSU.  The only time UWW had momentum was when a miracle was the only way to win.  The student section was great too.  At least they are in touch with reality.

[huskyfan]

Just got back from the UWW/SCSU game and even though the final score didn't show it, it was a pretty close game.  UWW had some turnover problems and dropped pass problems that killed any momentum they had during the game.  The defense looked excellent, #99 and #98 were consistently in the backfield disrupting the QB, but the offense couldn't keep them on the sidelines.  I think they were a little tired in the fourth quarter but still were able to stop the Huskies when they needed to.  Good game UWW, if the Johnnies play you in the playoffs this year again and you play like you played today, they will definitely need to bring their "A" game.  Good luck the rest of the year!

I would have to disagree with your first sentence.  I was also at the game and it was NOT as close as the score indicated.  Most of Whitewater's yardage and points came after SCSU let up and relaxed.  It was 26-3 going into the 4th quarter.  Here is what the 1st half stats looked like:


Unofficial stats:

                      UWW       SCSU
1st downs        3              8
Rush yards      43            23
Pass yards       20           111
Total offense    63           134
Penalties         2-10        3-25
Turnovers          2                0
turnovers led to 10 SCSU points

Whitewater played a very solid game, but the outcome was never in doubt. 

[football99]

To echo Farley's comment, the kick on the blocked field goal was a low line drive.  It was a good push by SCSU, but it didn't much matter--it would have been blocked at the line of scrimmage if another guy didn't get to it sooner.

What is the prevailing opinion on Danny Jones?  It looked like he threw a decent enough ball, but really didn't have much idea where it was headed.  He overthrew a bunch of deep balls and almost got a couple of his receivers killed with poorly placed throws.

Then again, his receivers didn't do much to help him, especially Jordan Wells who seemed to drop everything he touched in the first half.  The late drop in the end zone (to Gifford, I believe) was really a killer.

I'd guess the postgame stats will paint the picture of a pretty even game.  Beaver was a his usual great self, but most of his big plays came on draws after the Warhawks were relegated to primarily throwing the ball.  While I'd guess the yards were close to even, every mistake was made by UW-W and unfortunately every bad bounce went against them. 

I'd imagine the Johnnies will see the Warhawks again this year--I just hope it's a return engagement to mid-Minnesota.  I expect to have a full game recap up at www.johnniefootball.com tomorrow morning.

From all the pre-season hype I thought Jones would have been alot better.  In this game he was probably average at best.  He was pressured much of the night and as you stated the receivers didn't always help him with a few dropped passes. 
What about the defense?  I think the defense didn't look near as strong as last year without Kleppe in the middle. 

[ummalum]

A VERY POOR OUTING FOR THE HAWKS VS A VERY AVERAGE TEAM

[ozzie679]

A VERY POOR OUTING FOR THE HAWKS VS A VERY AVERAGE TEAM

Obviously you weren't there.  It was a loss by a very good DIII aganst an average DII.  The game was never in question.

[BoBo]

The game was never in question.

That's usually the nature of a game such as this when one team capitalizes on the other teams mistakes and that same team doesn't have any turnovers.

[ozzie679]

The game was never in question.

That's usually the nature of a game such as this when one team capitalizes on the other teams mistakes and that same team doesn't have any turnovers.

You know the only time they moved the ball was when SCSU called off the dogs to prevent long passes.  Its too bad for SCSU's kick off returner didn't know he could run around the kicker, rather than through him.  Then the score would have been a little more reasonable.  What we saw was a case of DIII d-backs.  Just like when SJU had the "point a minute" offense.  The d-backs were brutal in the MIAC.

[chmarx]

Sounds like UWW made a credible showing in St. Cloud yesterday.

[ozzie679]

Sounds like UWW made a credible showing in St. Cloud yesterday.

WW had a couple of the best linebackers around.

[BoBo]

From all the pre-season hype I thought Jones would have been alot better.  In this game he was probably average at best.  He was pressured much of the night and as you stated the receivers didn't always help him with a few dropped passes. 
What about the defense?  I think the defense didn't look near as strong as last year without Kleppe in the middle. 

Jones has played two away games in a WW uniform; harder for me to reach a conclusion when you considering the two opponents, a lower DIII team and an average/above average/below average (take your pick) DII. The important season starts now, so we'll see in the next few games what he is made of.  Only a hypothetical, but with his o-line giving him a little time and the receivers not dropping so many, maybe he would have been more accurate (ala TC comments) and the results would've been different - at least might give you a little more peace of mind.  As for the defense, while I wasn't at the game, just listening, the run defense seemed to be strong (34 rushes, 37 yards).  The DL & L'backers had good pressure on the SCSU QB - appeared from my computer screen that the DB's were having the most difficulty against what had been a struggling offense and QB.

[stealth]

It's tough to think that Jones is the center of attention in a somewhat negative way. Had to have been there to get a full picture. Best O linemen on his blind side goes down early. Hurt his protection big time. (Blasted from the back side at least 3 times, one fumble) His ankle is rolled up on play 5 but he toughed it out the rest of the game which cut down on his mobility.  #8 and #85 wide outs couldn't hold on to the ball on beautiful passes. Let's count, at least 6 dropped balls, 2 for touch downs. #8 fumbles the ball late in the first half when he should have just stepped out of bounds to save time. Wierd bounce on a punt that hit a UWW guy in the foot and recoverd by SCSU. On side kick that UWW only had to lay on to recover but missed. Soft zone defense let SCSU throw underneath for a bunch of critical yards late in the game, etc. Yeah Beaver was his old self again. (spectacular).
Bottom line is it is easy for the apologists to blame one guy but last I checked it was a team game and there were enough team mistakes to go around. Players and coaches. Give UWW credit, two road games to open the season, takes on a scholarship laden DII school and still I would not want to be E.C. next week. UWW got a wake up call and sleeping lions are dangerous. Go Hawks !!

[Hurricane13]

Bottom line there were a lot of mistakes made by WW on sat. And the other team did what they were supposed to by taking advantage of the mistakes made. As far as the whole Jones thing goes yea not his best game ever a lot of contributing factors came into play dropped balls some huge hits a few bad passes a minor injury at the start of the game. I have seen this kid light it up and he does have the ability to put on a show as Justin Beaver. ( Gotta Hand To Justin That Kid Can Run ) The one thing that stood out in my mind through out the game was the leadership on the team from start to finish WW never gave up even when they had an unlucky bounce they were constantly pushing and Jones never gave up that team has  Heart and drive to win. That kind of determination with all the talent they have is a very dangerous combo....Look for that Offense to light it up next week...

[ihavesomething2say]

Just looked at this weeks top 25 on this site.  Good to see that the WIAC is well represented.  Whitewater is 3... I think La Crosse was 5... and then Oshkosh is 26 and Eau Claire and Stevens Point are 31 and 32 I think.  A win by Oshkosh this week and if Eau Claire can pull off the upset they both have a good chance of being in the top 25.  Point should get a win against Waldorf and then the following week I see they play River Falls.  So they could be in the top 25 in 2 weeks if they win both of their games.  WIAC looks strong this year.  And I like it.