FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[OzJohnnie]

I agree with sakman tht this is as bad as the cannon guy and public v private. However I just read the new edition of the RP,and It has gotten to an all time new low as Lance had to apologize tot he soccer teams for his comment about how covering soccer would be fun for the RP.
I would also take the bait about Z not acting like Lance has. I know Brez never did,and I am sure Forest Perkins never did either.

This is entertaining.  The post quoted above argues with your previous post quoted below.  First it was LL acted poorly and that bellyachers were no good lay-abouts, and now you're saying that it's blown out of proportion and LL has hit a new low by apologizing for his bad behavior.

You don't need to take bait from anyone else; it appears that you can bait yourself into an argument.

I saw the copy of the paper today,and the funny part was that it was not even on the front page it was in the middle of the news paper.
I still think the way LL reacted is funny. Yes I understand he is passionate about the football program,and whitewater athletics in general. However so was the guy you replaced,and I never remember seeing Brez act that way after there was a front page story about players under his watch getting doing worse (Beaver in 05, fight downtown in 03). He would complain quietly and let it go except for when some of the players thought they would be cute and start a F*** the RP and their sports editor group on facebook in 2005, which resulted in a team meeting with the AD. He was upset about that,and that made the front page. These guys names weren't even mentioned, and LL reacts very poorly.
Yes the campus cops were mad. I mean they had to get up from doing nothing which is what they normally do,and actually get in their squad cars and drive the two minutes from the police station to the williams center. Probably even turned on the sirens because they don't get to do that much.

[footballfan413]

Entertaining if you are not a UW-W or WIAC guy.................................

[footballfan413]

Now that the WIAC and the rest of D3 has had a couple years of watching "4 year guys" and not "5 year guys" i.e. those that were able to redshirt.  Does anyone think the quality of WIAC football has changed? Has it gotten better, gotten worse or stayed the same as a whole?  One would immediately think it cannot be quite as good as it was 5 years ago, with players having less time to mature by their senior year.  Just wondering what more experienced, veteran WIAC fans think?   

It probably has some effect but I don't think it matters that much.  The difference in physical maturity is huge between a 1st year and a 4th year player but between a 4th year and a 5th, not so much.  One disadvantage now that reshirting is gone, would be that when you get one of those outstanding players, like a Justin Beaver, you don't get  their services for an extra year but Beaver was every bit as good his 4th as he was his 5th year.  IMO, the quality of the WIAC players lies more in the fact that there are no D-2 options in the state.  For players who want to stay close to home and can't play for the Badgers, with a few exceptions, the WIAC is it.

[Packerfan07]

I was reading wissports and there were some interesting comments regarding some other situations at UWW.  I do not know if any of these are true but people outside of the school, as well as students are questioning the legitamacy of the academic requirements for the athletes. 

Here is a link.

http://www.wissports.net/playground/tm.aspx?m=1024427&mpage=2

The starting quarterback was mentioned for his academic issues and whether or not the timeline of his ineligibility makes sense.  We know he did not play baseball this spring but was he eligible to continue to play football after the semester had ended when these grades were used to determine that he was not eligible for baseball?  I believe exams were occuring around the time of the last playoff game or the national championship.  Maybe he was not truly injured for the game he missed against stout and injury was used as an excuse so coaches and or administration did not have lingering questions about the academics of their starting quarterback as the team headed for the playoffs.  There is just alot of pieces to this that have a nauseating potential to fit together.

I will admit I do not know the academic rules and I hope that these rumors are simply that, however if there is truth to any of this it could be a very big black eye for the school athletic programs.  If I was an opponent that lost to WW in the playoffs I would be very curious.  Who knows though had they played a player who was academically eligible for a player that was ineligible maybe they would have won the championship again.  Maybe it all works out in the end.

[Pat Coleman]

I think you should probably refrain from trying to stir things up if you don't know how things work.

If your scenario were true then almost every football season would have examples. Since they don't ...

[Packerfan07]

Pat

Do other football seasons have examples though?  Maybe they are not noticed or overlooked because the majority of D3 athletes and college athletes in general do not play two sports therefore the student has the spring semester to regain eligibility.  This allows said athlete to continue to play in the fall without ever being academically ineligible for a sport in the spring. Becasue they do not play multiple sports nobody knows.

I am not trying to stir things up.  I will be looking into the academic rules of the NCAA and WIAC so I can be better informed.  In my opinion if things such as this happen it takes away the oppurtunities for athletes who work hard to keep there grades up.  I understand these things happen at Division one schools etc. etc.  D3 schools are the chances for students who are athletes to be members of an athletic program where school comes first. 

I am sure that the rules were followed and again I am not trying to stir things up or accuse anyone of any wrong doing.  I understand why this would be a touchy subject.  I do not think it should be because the rules are cut and dry and if they are followed no one can fear discipline.

[badgerwarhawk]

I was reading wissports and there were some interesting comments regarding some other situations at UWW.  I do not know if any of these are true but people outside of the school, as well as students are questioning the legitamacy of the academic requirements for the athletes. 

Here is a link.

http://www.wissports.net/playground/tm.aspx?m=1024427&mpage=2

The starting quarterback was mentioned for his academic issues and whether or not the timeline of his ineligibility makes sense.  We know he did not play baseball this spring but was he eligible to continue to play football after the semester had ended when these grades were used to determine that he was not eligible for baseball?  I believe exams were occuring around the time of the last playoff game or the national championship.  Maybe he was not truly injured for the game he missed against stout and injury was used as an excuse so coaches and or administration did not have lingering questions about the academics of their starting quarterback as the team headed for the playoffs.  There is just alot of pieces to this that have a nauseating potential to fit together.

This is ABSOLUTE CRAP.  Donovan's shoulder injury was legitimate and there are medical records to prove it.  It's an outrageous accusation to even suggest when you acknowledge it is pure speculation on your part and these pieces only have the "potential" to fit together.  The university did not acknowledge his injury, though it was common knowledge to everyone but conspiracy theorists, because of HIPA which prevents them from releasing any medical information about an individual.  What is nauseating is your nonsense.

Why in god's name would they sit Donovan against a very good Stout team?  We nearly lost that game. 

If a student fails the fall semester he is not ineligible until the NCAA certifies him as ineligible.  That does not occur until the first day of the spring semester.  All of the playoffs and the national championship game were completed prior to that date and Donovan was eligible to play throughout them.  At UW-WHITEWATER grades are not posted until after graduation.  Graduation was 12/20 the day of the Stagg Bowl.  That was a Saturday so the earliest date grades would have been posted was the following Monday 12/22.

Congratulations, you have two posts and you've already proven yourself clueless.  That's quite an accomplishment.  Good grief!

[wildcat11]

 

[Warhawk 96]

I was reading wissports and there were some interesting comments regarding some other situations at UWW.  I do not know if any of these are true but people outside of the school, as well as students are questioning the legitamacy of the academic requirements for the athletes. 

Here is a link.

http://www.wissports.net/playground/tm.aspx?m=1024427&mpage=2

The starting quarterback was mentioned for his academic issues and whether or not the timeline of his ineligibility makes sense.  We know he did not play baseball this spring but was he eligible to continue to play football after the semester had ended when these grades were used to determine that he was not eligible for baseball?  I believe exams were occuring around the time of the last playoff game or the national championship.  Maybe he was not truly injured for the game he missed against stout and injury was used as an excuse so coaches and or administration did not have lingering questions about the academics of their starting quarterback as the team headed for the playoffs.  There is just alot of pieces to this that have a nauseating potential to fit together.

This is ABSOLUTE CRAP.  Donovan's shoulder injury was legitimate and there are medical records to prove it.  It's an outrageous accusation to even suggest when you acknowledge it is pure speculation on your part and these pieces only have the "potential" to fit together.  The university did not acknowledge his injury, though it was common knowledge to everyone but conspiracy theorists, because of HIPA which prevents them from releasing any medical information about an individual.  What is nauseating is your nonsense.

Why in god's name would they sit Donovan against a very good Stout team?  We nearly lost that game. 

If a student fails the fall semester he is not ineligible until the NCAA certifies him as ineligible.  That does not occur until the first day of the spring semester.  All of the playoffs and the national championship game were completed prior to that date and Donovan was eligible to play throughout them.  At UW-WHITEWATER grades are not posted until after graduation.  Graduation was 12/20 the day of the Stagg Bowl.  That was a Saturday so the earliest date grades would have been posted was the following Monday 12/22.

Congratulations, you have two posts and you've already proven yourself clueless.  That's quite an accomplishment.  Good grief!

Well put. Eligibility for fall sports is based on the previous spring semester.

[footballfan413]

I am sure that the rules were followed and again I am not trying to stir things up or accuse anyone of any wrong doing.  

Really...........................cuz that is exactly what you did with speculation, innuendo and a complete lack of accurate information.   

[OxyBob]

The University Chronicle at St. Cloud State weighs in on the Lance Leipold debacle:

Sports journalism is not public relations

Best line:

What sports writers should never do is have to treat a team with latex gloves because someone on the team got angry.

I guess a favorable interview with a sportswriter at SCSU must be a pro-State exam.

OxyBob

[footballfan413]

 

Hey, 11.  Pass the popcorn, would ya?   Thank goodness for the WIAC board this off season, huh. 

[BDB]

 

Hey, 11.  Pass the popcorn, would ya?   Thank goodness for the WIAC board this off season, huh. 

fb413, forget the popcorn. Have wc11 hand you a beer. 

[Bisondad]

What's the WIAC board address?

[footballfan413]

 

Hey, 11.  Pass the popcorn, would ya?   Thank goodness for the WIAC board this off season, huh. 

fb413, forget the popcorn. Have wc11 hand you a beer. 

Ah.......much better idea!  Got to wash the popcorn down with something.