FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[BoBo]

Having seen UWSP play Saturday I think there may be teams within the conference that might keep them home.  I am not saying that will happen but the WIAC isn't given the ranking as toughest in the nation for only having UWW in it.  With two others in the top 25 UWW will have to play great ball to get in the top 2 in the conference and being #2 is not guarantee that they will be in the playoffs. 

Wow, that must have been an awesome performance the Pointers put in last Saturday (at least 59 minutes of it    ), to make you think that there may be teams (note the plural) ready to dethrone UWW in the WIAC and keep them home come playoff time.  What exactly did the Pointers accomplish in their season opener, beside losing it, that makes a IIAC follower handicap the WIAC season this way? I personally don't see where 1 game and a week 2Top 25 ranking could make one reach that conclusion    .

[footballfan413]

Having seen UWSP play Saturday I think there may be teams within the conference that might keep them home.  I am not saying that will happen but the WIAC isn't given the ranking as toughest in the nation for only having UWW in it.  With two others in the top 25 UWW will have to play great ball to get in the top 2 in the conference and being #2 is not guarantee that they will be in the playoffs.  

Wow, that must have been an awesome performance the Pointers put in last Saturday (at least 59 minutes of it    ), to make you think that there may be teams (note the plural) ready to dethrone UWW in the WIAC and keep them home come playoff time.  What exactly did the Pointers accomplish in their season opener, beside losing it, that makes a IIAC follower handicap the WIAC season this way? I personally don't see where 1 game and a week 2Top 25 ranking could make one reach that conclusion     .

I wonder if this was his first experience seeing a team play from the WIAC other than UW-W, BoBo.  If so, that may explain his reaction more than the Pointer's quality of play which I don't doubt was impressive. They did beat the Hawks last year, afterall.  The parity in this league is legendary but to really understand it, it helps to see it up close and personal.  I have thought many times about the raw wound that must still exist for the UW-LC program after manhandling the Hawks for 3 quarters in 07, only to have them battle back for the win and then go on to become National Champs.  To survive consistantly in this league, one must never underestimate the opponents ability to send you home with a loss.  I think the Hawks and the coaching staff understand, every year, that if they start to phone it in, there will be no post-season!  
 
   Warning:  Understatement alert: Please refer to  BOLDED statements above.  

[raiderguy]

[ I wonder if this was his first experience seeing a team play from the WIAC other than UW-W, BoBo.  If so, that may explain his reaction more than the Pointer's quality of play which I don't doubt was impressive. They did beat the Hawks last year, afterall.  The parity in this league is legendary but to really understand it, it helps to see it up close and personal.  I have thought many times about the raw wound that must still exist for the UW-LC program after manhandling the Hawks for 3 quarters in 07, only to have them battle back for the win and then go on to become National Champs.  To survive consistantly in this league, one must never underestimate the opponents ability to send you home with a loss.  I think the Hawks and the coaching staff understand, every year, that if they start to phone it in, there will be no post-season!  
 
   Warning:  Understatement alert: Please refer to  BOLDED statements above.  

I know the wound pains me quite a bit too....but I got over it in '08 & '09.

[footballfan413]

[ I wonder if this was his first experience seeing a team play from the WIAC other than UW-W, BoBo.  If so, that may explain his reaction more than the Pointer's quality of play which I don't doubt was impressive. They did beat the Hawks last year, afterall.  The parity in this league is legendary but to really understand it, it helps to see it up close and personal.  I have thought many times about the raw wound that must still exist for the UW-LC program after manhandling the Hawks for 3 quarters in 07, only to have them battle back for the win and then go on to become National Champs.  To survive consistantly in this league, one must never underestimate the opponents ability to send you home with a loss.  I think the Hawks and the coaching staff understand, every year, that if they start to phone it in, there will be no post-season!  
 
   Warning:  Understatement alert: Please refer to  BOLDED statements above.  

I know the wound pains me quite a bit too....but I got over it in '08 & '09.

" 09"?        See...............now there is a prime example of underestimating your opponent!   

[badgerwarhawk]

When I was trying to decide the Stevens Point/Central game in the pickem topic I was considering whether the fact that Point was playing their first game while Central already had one under their belt and was playing at home would be a factor.  I finally decided that it probably would but that Point could overcome it.  Brilliant conclusion badger

I'm not suggesting that Central couldn't have beaten Point otherwise and I don't know that either factor had anything to do with the outcome of the game.  Central appears to be on their way to a pretty good season.  Obviously they or whoever prevails in the IIAC are programs that could cause problems for any WIAC team that makes the playoffs.  Just as obviously I hope it's us.  But I just don't see where it's productive to talk Salem in September.   There's just too many games in between.

[raiderguy]

[ I wonder if this was his first experience seeing a team play from the WIAC other than UW-W, BoBo.  If so, that may explain his reaction more than the Pointer's quality of play which I don't doubt was impressive. They did beat the Hawks last year, afterall.  The parity in this league is legendary but to really understand it, it helps to see it up close and personal.  I have thought many times about the raw wound that must still exist for the UW-LC program after manhandling the Hawks for 3 quarters in 07, only to have them battle back for the win and then go on to become National Champs.  To survive consistantly in this league, one must never underestimate the opponents ability to send you home with a loss.  I think the Hawks and the coaching staff understand, every year, that if they start to phone it in, there will be no post-season!  
 
   Warning:  Understatement alert: Please refer to  BOLDED statements above.  

I know the wound pains me quite a bit too....but I got over it in '08 & '09.

" 09"?        See...............now there is a prime example of underestimating your opponent!   

Just checkin' to see if you are paying attention.

[BoBo]

But I just don't see where it's productive to talk Salem in September.   There's just too many games in between.

Down in Iowa, they must be able to do that because...well...you know why? 

To me, Stevens Point is a good team, but is simply not the WIAC measuring stick.  Way to many close games over the past couple years - the Pointers finally got beat by someone using their M.O. One game at a time...

[BoBo]

All I am saying is they maybe the most talented .....that does not mean they will go all the way but it sure gives them a leg up....for the last 5 years there have been some really talented teams that just came up short in the last game because of great Mount Union teams and a sub par performance in some areas by our guys.....hopefully the 2009 edition can replicate 2007.......

Should I? or shouldn't I? Nah I'll wait.

The Warhawks look very good so far this season, and have a great chance to be back in Salem again. The question what team is out there this season
that can derail their Salem visit in the post-season? Is it Linfield, Mary Hardin Baylor or someone else. Mount Union's test is more predictable given the teams from the North, East and South that the Raiders have seen on several occasions.

Whitewater has quite a history with Linfield and MHB.  In case you've forgotten, they have never lost to them!! 

[badgerwarhawk]

Congrats to this week's WIAC Players of the Week

http://www.wiacsports.com/football/athweek.htm

[DutchFan2004]

Having seen UWSP play Saturday I think there may be teams within the conference that might keep them home.  I am not saying that will happen but the WIAC isn't given the ranking as toughest in the nation for only having UWW in it.  With two others in the top 25 UWW will have to play great ball to get in the top 2 in the conference and being #2 is not guarantee that they will be in the playoffs. 

Wow, that must have been an awesome performance the Pointers put in last Saturday (at least 59 minutes of it    ), to make you think that there may be teams (note the plural) ready to dethrone UWW in the WIAC and keep them home come playoff time.  What exactly did the Pointers accomplish in their season opener, beside losing it, that makes a IIAC follower handicap the WIAC season this way? I personally don't see where 1 game and a week 2Top 25 ranking could make one reach that conclusion    .

Just seeing UWW in the past play Central.  I think the Central team of 05 and this team have some things in common.  I would say that UWSP is on par talent wise with the UWW 05 team.   I am not saying that they are better than UWW but in football there is more than talent that goes into games.  There is luck (the way the ball bounces) and coaching the plays called that go into the games.  I am just saying that UWW is not going to have an easy road to the playoffs.  I am not saying that UWW will not win the WIAC all I was saying is they better show up cause UWSP looked like a good team. 

[footballfan413]

Just seeing UWW in the past play Central.  I think the Central team of 05 and this team have some things in common.  I would say that UWSP is on par talent wise with the UWW 05 team.   I am not saying that they are better than UWW but in football there is more than talent that goes into games.  There is luck (the way the ball bounces) and coaching the plays called that go into the games.  I am just saying that UWW is not going to have an easy road to the playoffs. I am not saying that UWW will not win the WIAC all I was saying is they better show up cause UWSP looked like a good team.  

They never have.  No team in the WIAC has an easy road to the playoffs and their reward for that is a post season where they then have to navigate through the West Region.  Long considered the toughest region in the country.  This is nothing new.  

Comparing this years UW-STP team to the UWW 05 team is a little premature after seeing them play their one and only game this season, don't ya think?  8)

And as for UWW, "showing up," to play the Pointers, after last season where their win over the Hawks snapped a 25-game conference winning streak and a 26-game home field winning streak dating back to Nov. 13, 2004.................well, let's just say that I am pretty sure................. that won't be a problem.  
 

[Sakman 1111]

Dutch if WSP was as talented as the 2005 UWW team as you surmised they would have won Saturday.......I guess I started all this some posts ago by saying this maybe the most talented team at UWW in the last 5 years( an opinion shared by some former players also). In no way did I suggest that this  means they are shooins for Salem or the WIAC crown.....our clan realizes how hard those goals are to achieve but as I said before the cupboards are full in Warhawk land and that can only be a good thing. Pound the Rock..........

[BoBo]

Dutch if WSP was as talented as the 2005 UWW team as you surmised they would have won Saturday.......

.....and as I remember that 2005 game, the Pointers would have won saturday in a rout - it wasn't a Wesley type of rout (only 34-14), but a rout nevertheless.  I think we need to call for a foot in mouth surgeon for Dutchfan2004!! 

[DutchFan2004]

Dutch if WSP was as talented as the 2005 UWW team as you surmised they would have won Saturday.......

.....and as I remember that 2005 game, the Pointers would have won saturday in a rout - it wasn't a Wesley type of rout (only 34-14), but a rout nevertheless.  I think we need to call for a foot in mouth surgeon for Dutchfan2004!! 

Yes it was a three score game and the Warhawks deserved the win.  But if the luck part of that game happened I think the Dutch could have had the W.  The dropped 2 passes in the endzone which is 14 and if you didn't get the pick six the Dutch would have tied won by one.  I am not crying sour grapes by any stretch.  The Warhawks won and deservedly so.  You seem to dismiss my judgement on the UWSP team.  I think they have some talent and they just might get the Warhawks if the get the breaks is all I was trying to say.  Good luck to your conference in the upcoming season. 

[02 Warhawk]

Dutch if WSP was as talented as the 2005 UWW team as you surmised they would have won Saturday.......

.....and as I remember that 2005 game, the Pointers would have won saturday in a rout - it wasn't a Wesley type of rout (only 34-14), but a rout nevertheless.  I think we need to call for a foot in mouth surgeon for Dutchfan2004!!  

Yes it was a three score game and the Warhawks deserved the win.  But if the luck part of that game happened I think the Dutch could have had the W.  The dropped 2 passes in the endzone which is 14 and if you didn't get the pick six the Dutch would have tied won by one.  I am not crying sour grapes by any stretch.  The Warhawks won and deservedly so.  You seem to dismiss my judgement on the UWSP team.  I think they have some talent and they just might get the Warhawks if the get the breaks is all I was trying to say.  Good luck to your conference in the upcoming season.  

I think every opponent the 'Hawks beat over the past 4-5 years could play the "luck" card on us. Narrowing each loss down to a specific play they didn't make. "Only if we didn't fumble that ball...." "Only if we would of intercepted that pass...." "If we only would of prevented that one giant run/pass play....." "Only if we didn't dop that ball....."

Dutch, that's what separates successful teams from average teams. the Whitewaters', the Mount Unions', the Mary Harden Baylors', the St. Johns' take advantage of opportunities by forcing other teams to make mistakes. while at the same time keeping their mistakes to a minimum. these programs don't make it a habit of dropping balls and throwing int's in key situations. That's why we see these teams deep in the playoffs each year, not because they are lucky but b/c they create their own luck by constantly keeping the pressure on teams on both sides of the ball, forcing them to make bad decisions.....That comes from great coaching and recruting which is what these programs are blessed with.