FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Barber Greene]

being an alum of another wisconsin d3 team -- I apologize to the WIAC  - we have plenty of teams to play you -- and we (small as we are) would be better for it --

playing the same teams in conference as non conf --  WIAC you beat the piss out of each other all year and then have nothing for the palyoffs (no fault of your own - just a tough conference)

maybe the other teams will ante up -- Im sure it is not the players

yeah - make the games early int he year as a tune up -- chances are WIAC will win but think of the great learning for the smaller schools

20 years ago we were told by admin that playing (then the WsUC) would be a joke and we'd get killed -- so much for support

can you tell this is a sore spot for me??

Amen brother!!!

[02 Warhawk]

WIAC Football Teams Will See Double Beginning In 2011

http://www.wiacsports.com/football/2011PlayTwice.html

well that sucks...hopefully things will change in 2012

[D O.C.]

+ k for the Amen! Brother!

I know it can't be helped

The goal of playing an additional game vs. a WIAC opponent is to reduce the number of long-distance trips

and giving other schools a chance to see our teams.

Being a half empty kind of guy, we can now look forward to seeing two teams play each other three (3) times a year should they meet in the play-offs.

[02 Warhawk]

Can't believe we're coming up on week 8 of season, and I'm wondering when White will get his first sack of the year. Wonder if the O-lines are making it a point to double him or what...

He is, however, tied with the team lead with 4.0 tackles for losses, so he's more than contributing.

[badgerwarhawk]

WIAC Football Teams Will See Double Beginning In 2011

http://www.wiacsports.com/football/2011PlayTwice.html

It sucks

[02 Warhawk]

WIAC Football Teams Will See Double Beginning In 2011

http://www.wiacsports.com/football/2011PlayTwice.html

It sucks

Lack of schools near by isn't a problem

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/yb/136705861

map

[BoBo]

WIAC you beat the piss out of each other all year and then have nothing for the palyoffs (no fault of your own - just a tough conference)

Those are some of the most colorful words I've ever heard from a Rev.!!     

It does blow, though.

[badgerwarhawk]

I can envision a scenario in which it could cost us a second bid to the postseason.   

[raiderguy]

I can envision a scenario in which it could cost us a second bid to the postseason.   

I'm not sure that would be the case if you consider the conference being ranked as best overall by many (not necessarily me ). If that is the case playing another out of conference game against whomever might still be viewed as a weak choice. Even though it is an out of conference game in the classification for the tournament you might pick up a strength of schedule boost depending on who the second team you play might be. If La Crosse and WW play twice for example they historically have had a strong position on the national scene and would help their situation as opposed to playing some weak team from the IIAC or MIAC.

With the close proximity of MIAC teams to many in the WIAC I could see a great chance for some top notch games with Bethel, St Olaf, St Thomas and St Johns playing the Eau Claire, Stout, River Falls and even La Crosse as some good choices that would seem to fit the mileage restrictions imposed at this time. Expanding what St John's has been doing for quite some time.

Sure am glad we snuck the Oshkosh vs MUC game in under the wire. ;)A home game for me!

[badgerwarhawk]

Karner explains, two coaches weigh in.....http://host.madison.com/sports/amateur/article_41fe86d6-bd97-11de-af30-001cc4c03286.html


Other than save money this isn't going to help the league at all.  I suppose one could argue that saving money is sufficent reason and helps the league, or at least some of it's members.

[02 Warhawk]

Karner explains, two coaches weigh in.....http://host.madison.com/sports/amateur/article_41fe86d6-bd97-11de-af30-001cc4c03286.html


Other than save money this isn't going to help the league at all.  I suppose one could argue that saving money is sufficent reason and helps the league, or at least some of it's members.

It has its pro's and con's...even though the con's far outway the pro's. Since NAIA teams don't count when factoring the strength of schedule (nor does playing UPS really  ). Playing one or two teams twice in a season from the toughest conference in DIII will boost that teams strength of schedule. Other than that...i'm not a big fan of this.

[D O.C.]

Doesn't that have to presume that conference is the toughest in DIII? And after a few years of not being able to measure that outside the conference - UNLESS the NCAA saw it's way to put 2 teams in the playoffs and they met far down the bracket regularly - wouldn't that dilute everybody's gig?

[BoBo]

Bad news doesn't get better with age...and this is certainly bad news. In making this announcement, I find it interesting the WIAC commissioner hasn't made any comment (that I'm aware of) about the protocol for determining the scheduling of the NC games each year. I guess it would have to be a 7 year round robin. But, I'm curious how they intend to make the match-ups.  Under the status quo, I'm not sure if there is a team eager to play UWW twice in a season.  He indicated in the Madison.com article that it might only be a temporary condition, provided the economy picks-up. That makes the first year or two extremely important for a lot of teams.

I would think it's the job of the WIAC head office to try to turn this negative situation into a positive ~ if that's at all possible. I believe it is. If I had any pull, this is what I would propose initially: 

I would have a WIAC football extravaganza at Camp Randall, one of the first 3 weeks of the season. Of course it would require the Badgers to be on an away game. Four games, all eight teams involved, in one incredible day of football ~ all on a neutral field. Each game would be counted in the conference standings. Later in the season, the second game, the non-conference one, would be played at various campus stadiums. I wouldn't expect 80,000 spectators like a Badger game. But, I could see maybe 20,000-25,000 people. It would be the greatest day of DIII football, maybe ever on one field, on a single day. If I were the commissioner, my first telephone call today would be to Barry Alvarez to secure the use of Camp Randall.  Next, I'd be pounding the pavement getting a title corporate partner(s) for sponsorship. Long story short, it would be a great day of football and make a lousy situation somewhat palatable.

Thoughts?   

[BoBo]

Doesn't that have to presume that conference is the toughest in DIII? And after a few years of not being able to measure that outside the conference - UNLESS the NCAA saw it's way to put 2 teams in the playoffs and they met far down the bracket regularly - wouldn't that dilute everybody's gig?

D3football.com year in year out presumes the WIAC to be the stongest conference in the land. Do you question their opinion and unbiased expert analysis on that subject?  The tone of your post suggests you don't agree.  

BTW, there'll still be 2 outside NC games to be played (OAC only plays 1 NC game a year and they're considered rather strong, too).  Those two games for each WIAC team, plus a continued WIAC presence in Salem each December, is all that is needed to maintain the reputation of the WIAC as the strongest conference.  

[02 Warhawk]

Bad news doesn't get better with age...and this is certainly bad news. In making this announcement, I find it interesting the WIAC commissioner hasn't made any comment (that I'm aware of) about the protocol for determining the scheduling of the NC games each year. I guess it would have to be a 7 year round robin. But, I'm curious how they intend to make the match-ups.  Under the status quo, I'm not sure if there is a team eager to play UWW twice in a season.  He indicated in the Madison.com article that it might only be a temporary condition, provided the economy picks-up. That makes the first year or two extremely important for a lot of teams.

I would think it's the job of the WIAC head office to try to turn this negative situation into a positive ~ if that's at all possible. I believe it is. If I had any pull, this is what I would propose initially:  

I would have a WIAC football extravaganza at Camp Randall, one of the first 3 weeks of the season. Of course it would require the Badgers to be on an away game. Four games, all eight teams involved, in one incredible day of football ~ all on a neutral field. Each game would be counted in the conference standings. Later in the season, the second game, the non-conference one, would be played at various campus stadiums. I wouldn't expect 80,000 spectators like a Badger game. But, I could see maybe 20,000-25,000 people. It would be the greatest day of DIII football, maybe ever on one field, on a single day. If I were the commissioner, my first telephone call today would be to Barry Alvarez to secure the use of Camp Randall.  Next, I'd be pounding the pavement getting a title corporate partner(s) for sponsorship. Long story short, it would be a great day of football and make a lousy situation somewhat palatable.

Thoughts?  

Similar events have happen in other conferences. I believe St. Johns plays Augsburg in the Metrodome this season. But it's not really a "neutral" site since Augsburg is located in Minneapolis.

Personally, making the trip to Whitewater from Milwaukee is a long enough drive for me....let alone Madison.

Not a bad thought though....