FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[UniqueInsight38]

Some keys to the RF-WW game:
RF offense couldn't get in the end zone or keep the UWW offense of the field after the first quarter
The RF defense completely shut down the run but with the talent that UWW has, they just decided to throw the ball---Way to much talent all-around
Fred,  More than likely--the two late scores were against the second defense
Their defensive coaches were smart in pulling the their first defense once the game was out of reach
Their UWW offensive coaches on the other hand need to pull their heads out of their ****** when it comes to sportsmanship---
First their should be no complaints about hits on your QB since the defense couldn't even get to him
Also, they left there starters in until the middle of the fourth quarter
Also with 1:30 left in the game instead of kneeling on the ball and calling it good---They continue to try to score another TD---Totally terrible sportsmanship!!!!  I understand getting you second team some snaps and plays but I think they have probably gotten quite a bit of playing time already this year.

[janesvilleflash]

I have to agree. As a WW fan I was embarrassed with the last series of the game. First I thought the pass was uncalled for, and the hurry up to run the last play was even worse. I'm all for trying to get the other qb's some meaningful snaps, as well as all the backup players, but they could have gone in the prior series for that purpose.

Speaking of backup qb's, is Blanchard out for the year? They were trying to get him meaningful snaps during games early. They really need one of them to be ready to step in, but not at the expense of acting like dicks running up the score.

[Barber Greene]

I have to agree. As a WW fan I was embarrassed with the last series of the game. First I thought the pass was uncalled for, and the hurry up to run the last play was even worse. I'm all for trying to get the other qb's some meaningful snaps, as well as all the backup players, but they could have gone in the prior series for that purpose.

Speaking of backup qb's, is Blanchard out for the year? They were trying to get him meaningful snaps during games early. They really need one of them to be ready to step in, but not at the expense of acting like dicks running up the score.

Blanchard was dressed and participated in pre-game warmups. Maybe just not quite ready to participate in the games unless necessary.

[KitchenSink]

The chop block was called on Coppage, not on any O-liner.

Both RF TD's were against the 2nd team D.

[footballfan413]

Some keys to the RF-WW game:
RF offense couldn't get in the end zone or keep the UWW offense of the field after the first quarter
The RF defense completely shut down the run but with the talent that UWW has, they just decided to throw the ball---Way to much talent all-around
Fred,  More than likely--the two late scores were against the second defense
Their defensive coaches were smart in pulling the their first defense once the game was out of reach
Their UWW offensive coaches on the other hand need to pull their heads out of their ****** when it comes to sportsmanship---
First their should be no complaints about hits on your QB since the defense couldn't even get to him
Also, they left there starters in until the middle of the fourth quarter
Also with 1:30 left in the game instead of kneeling on the ball and calling it good---They continue to try to score another TD---Totally terrible sportsmanship!!!!  I understand getting you second team some snaps and plays but I think they have probably gotten quite a bit of playing time already this year.

Running up the score....... really?   38-14  They could have put the backups in one series early, I will give you that but on the flipside, their 2nd string D was giving up TD's in the 4th.  I always strongly disagree with the idea that a team is suppose to put in their 2nds and tell them to do their best, just don't get into the endzone.  If the second team can continue to score......oh well!

The hawks had 27 players in the tackle stats, I'm thinking that the last TD scored by RF was against some 3rds as well.  

BG is right.  I believe they are just being cautious with Blanchord.  Plenty of games left to play to risk his recovery.  This program thinks in terms of a 15 game season now but always, one game at a time.

[stanbob]

I agree second teamers doing their best, but Flash makes it sound like they ran a hurry up offense, that IMHO is uncalled for.

[footballfan413]

I agree second teamers doing their best, but Flash makes it sound like they ran a hurry up offense, that IMHO is uncalled for.

Well, I admit to heading to the parking lot with about 3 minutes to go so didn't see the very end.  A hurry up offense on the last play does seem unneccesary, I guess.  We need BW's take on it.

[WSUFan]

Pointers beat the La Crosse Eagles 26-14.  Point beats LaX in back to back years for the first time since 1962-63.

It's time to put Larry Terry on the hot seat.

[badgerwarhawk]

Also, they left there starters in until the middle of the fourth quarter
Also with 1:30 left in the game instead of kneeling on the ball and calling it good---They continue to try to score another TD---Totally terrible sportsmanship!!!!  I understand getting you second team some snaps and plays but I think they have probably gotten quite a bit of playing time already this year.

We didn't have a single defensive starter on the field for either of RF's fourth quarter scoring drives.

Which team tried an onside kick down 38-14 with 1:37 left in the game?  So it's ok for your guys to keep playing but we're poor sports and "dicks' because we should tell our second teamers to lie down.  

We weren't running a hurry up offense or trying to run up the score.  If we would have wanted to score on our final possession why did time run out with us inside the one yard line and two time outs remaining?    

[John Gleich]

I always strongly disagree with the idea that a team is suppose to put in their 2nds and tell them to do their best, just don't get into the endzone.  If the second team can continue to score......oh well!

This is spot on.  The kids on the 2nd or 3rd team work just as hard as the starter and don't get the press... they deserve an opportunity to play and play hard.

I do have to say, though, that, while they should be able to play hard (and play to score), they shouldn't be running trick plays or pressing for the score very late in the game when they could just run out the clock... It's kind of along the lines of a team up 20 throwing up 3 pointers at the buzzer... Just not real classy. 

(Btw, in no way am I saying that Whitewater did that.  I'm just saying in general, in college athletics).

[footballfan413]

I agree second teamers doing their best, but Flash makes it sound like they ran a hurry up offense, that IMHO is uncalled for.

Well, I admit to heading to the parking lot with about 3 minutes to go so didn't see the very end.  A hurry up offense on the last play does seem unneccesary, I guess.  We need BW's take on it.

Thanks, BW.  I knew your insight would be invaluable!  

Also, they left there starters in until the middle of the fourth quarter
Also with 1:30 left in the game instead of kneeling on the ball and calling it good---They continue to try to score another TD---Totally terrible sportsmanship!!!!  I understand getting you second team some snaps and plays but I think they have probably gotten quite a bit of playing time already this year.

We didn't have a single defensive starter on the field for either of RF's fourth quarter scoring drives.

Which team tried an onside kick down 38-14 with 1:37 left in the game?  So it's ok for your guys to keep playing but we're poor sports and "dicks' because we should tell our second teamers to lie down.  

We weren't running a hurry up offense or trying to run up the score.  If we would have wanted to score on our final possession why did time run out with us inside the one yard line and two time outs remaining?    

[02 Warhawk]

Some keys to the RF-WW game:
RF offense couldn't get in the end zone or keep the UWW offense of the field after the first quarter
The RF defense completely shut down the run but with the talent that UWW has, they just decided to throw the ball---Way to much talent all-around
Fred,  More than likely--the two late scores were against the second defense
Their defensive coaches were smart in pulling the their first defense once the game was out of reach

Rushing for 113 yards and scoring a pair of TD's on the ground, averaging 4.3 yards per carry. I admit, not exactly a huge rushing game for the 'Hawks. UWRF slowed them down a bit.... but to say they "completely shut down" UWW may be a stretch.

Stats do not tell the story:  RF had possession 12 minutes longer, had an equal no. of first downs,  outrushed WW, and had no interceptons or fumbles--end of story.

Sure they out rushed UWW by 33 yards, but when you more than double the other team's attempts you can out rush almost everyone. UWRF had 53 carries to UWW's 26. 2.8 yards per carry, compared to 4.3.

[BoBo]

Much of this "running up the score" and winning the statistical battle talk is very funny. When is a game not a game? It seemed like deja vu all over again on sat. It could have been 52-0 had UWW wanted it to be before calling off the dogs and it still wouldn't have been running up the score. Anyway, I leave you with this RF fans and sympathizers?

Question: Who were most of the guys making the tackles for RF in the 4th quarter when UWW was playing all 2's and 3s?

Answer: Starters Steve Marich (made a tackle on the 2nd to last play), Derek Nette, Cole Lowell, Matt Guetin
Non-starter ~ but playing DB since the 2nd quarter R. McKnuckles

The bottom line is if you're going to have your starters in the game while my backups are mopping up, I, as a coach, am going to specifically tell these guys that work their butts off to get on the field, in completely understandable English, that they are to continue to run the game plan as if it's the 1st quarter of a 0-0 game.  If we score, oh well, that's the breaks ~ it's the defenses' job to stop you not the other way around. If the other coach brings in all his backups - and this was not the case here - than I would tone it down a bit.  

For the guy calling UWW dicks, remember the game at Williamette (sp?) last year.  Final drive, UWW leading 30-27, AA ripping off huge chucks following the unsuccessful on-side kick - get down to about the WU 1.  Could've easily scored to make it a 10 point game.  What did they do?  Do you remember?  Took a knee at the 2 ~ game ends 30-27.  We had our #1's in - they had their #1's in, would that have been running up the score if we scored the next play? IMO, no - but it was being appauded as an act of good sportsmanship.

With the other teams starters on the field, especially in a conference like the WIAC where all the teams "are good" is not running up the score.  Know your facts before making silly, childish accusations.

[janesvilleflash]

Regardless the actions of the opponent, there is a thing called class. WW didn't show any at the end of this game. Could I be wrong, hell yes, but MY team would have taken a knee the whole last series. Can't buy any other way, but respect everyone's opinion.

[BoBo]

OK, agreed, you would have more class as a coach than I would.

Regardless the actions of the opponent, there is a thing called class. WW didn't show any at the end of this game. Could I be wrong, hell yes, but MY team would have taken a knee the whole last series. Can't buy any other way, but respect everyone's opinion.

MY guess is your team would never be in a position to to this!!" (if you know what I mean?)