FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Pat Coleman]

Secondly, Stout did beat two teams that were ranked in your preseason poll. 

This would be great if we were re-doing the preseason poll.

I hear you -- the third-best WIAC team is usually pretty good. But if you lost to the two best teams on your schedule and the non-conference games are Simpson and Eureka, it's not exactly a slam dunk. Stout might have merited a few more points, but it's not an absolute to say they have to be in the Top 25.

[bleedpurple]

Another fun WIAC season.  I am glad that my Blue Devils are back on the right track.  Still cannot believe no love for the club from the rest of the D3 community.  I guess a long off-season is in order while the Warhawks have another half of a season to go.  I am sure this helps each year take the program up a level.  Congrats on another great season to UWW and take the Stagg this year.

Congratulations to the Blue Devils on a great season I wish they would have made the playoffs. I am convinced they would have beaten a good part of the field. However, with two losses, it's usually a long shot. I got lit up a bit on the OAC board because I actually said UW Stout was the conference runner up. Some folks over there felt like ONU (a 2 loss team in the OAC) REALLY deserved to go. So i drew a comparison to UW Stout. The Blue Devils  SEEMED like the second best team to me so I forgot about Point. Oh well.

For the record, with all of the expertise of one that has seen UW-Stout play once and ONU play zero times, UW STOUT WOULD ROCK ONU HEAD TO HEAD!  

Great job Stout.

To your credit at least you are consistent. Once again pontificating a point without out any back-up at all. With only the coaches poll with ONU #13 in the country against a team that received 4 votes and having seen ONU on tv and not seeing Stout at all, ONU would give a stout football lesson to UW Stout if the opportunity ever occured this year. And Stout is my favorite WIAC team!

Finally we found a D3 guy who actually LIKES the BCS arrangement! I love it Raiderguy! You rip me for having an opinion on something with "no-back up" and then cite a POLL! That's beautiful! How many of the coaches that vote have seen UW Stout play? I'm sure you would love the D3 season to be over and the coaches could just declare Mount the National Champions. Unfortunately, for Mount of 09, it doesn't work that way! 

Now I am not sure how you take my comment into the BCS but so be it. Makes about as much sense as some of your other comments. Yes, I will take the opinions of 25 coaches that may or may not have seen ONU over your "expertise" in forming MY OPINION that ONU would job Stout if they ever met this year which they will not.
AS FAR AS DECLARING MOUNT NATIONAL CHAMPIONS.....I BELIEVE WE KNOW BETTER THAN MOST HOW THAT IS ACCOMPLISHED! THAT ACTUALLY MAY BE SOMETHING WE CAN BOTH AGREE ON?

Agreed for sure.  Can't argue with that at all. I admitted up front I had no "data" to base my opinion regarding Stout, but I believe what I said. All I was saying was that to cite the coaches poll= no data also. Now having said that, I am not at all being critical of the poll itself. I think it serves the D3 community well. However to cite any poll as "evidence" to me is kind of weak and smacks of BCS a bit. I figured you weren't really for BCS, just another light hearted jab on my part.

And regarding Mount Union knowing better than most how to accomplish a National Championship, I couldn't agree more.

[bleedpurple]

Like I said I have friends from the mid 90's when they started running the zone offense have jokingly called it a dynasty. Okay whatever, I don't know everything about d3 college football but Mount Union has won how many consecutive conference titles outright? Whitewater had won three in a row until last year's maybe it's not a dynasty but when you continually make it to the championship game your university is doing something right.
I know a lot of alumni who were involved in the football program as athletic trainers, student coaches, and players, and they all continually get letters from the program saying that they are part of the program. So in a way I guess people who are involved in the Warhawk football program are calling it a dynasty. Of course they are doing that so they can get money. As I have found out when people are looking to fundraise they will take money from anyone no matter how involved directly or indirectly they were involved.
Okay enough about all that here is to the Warhawks Monkey stomping Lakeland like they have the previous three times that they have played 2005, 2006,2007.

I'm calling Bull**** here.

  You try to come across as some casual fan that just happened to go to a play off game with some friends on "free" tickets.

But.. all of the sudden you know that WW started running the zone offense in the mid 90's. 

I played at WW in the late 80's to early 90's and everyone I played with and know does not call WW a dynasty or DLK  "Mr Whitewater"  yes I still get letters from the athletic dept. asking for money but so does every former player,  it's called an alumni database and they have been doing that for a long time just like most schools.  I'm pretty sure that I know more people connected to the Warhawk program than you.  I know Lance personally so I would knock it off with the backhanded comments about him too.

your "guess" about everyone calling UW-W a dynasty is way off,  the only person calling it a dynasty is YOU.

Perfect diagnosis. I have never heard the word dynasty used, nor would anyone use it. I think everyone associated with the program is proud of what UWW Football has accomplished, but NOTHING is taken for granted.  Mount can claim dynasty.

Don't know Warhawkbabe. But have a feeling we might have a poser here. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I've just not run into quite that approach to communication or attitude in all my dealings with UWW footbal.

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

UWW Football IS a DYNASTY!


(just trying to inflate their heads prior to the playoffs)

[Raider 68]

UWW Football IS a DYNASTY!


(just trying to inflate their heads prior to the playoffs)

We have great respect for UWW and hope the Raiders see them again!

[voice]

I think it is rather interesting that the WIAC football coaches met Monday in Black River Falls and hammered out the 2009 All-Conference Team along with Player and Coach of the Year.  I believe the protocol is that the conference office can't release the information until the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel publishes the information.   I my eyes, it is a very "unique" situation considering the JS hasn't had the time or space to do a weekly feature article in a looong time.  I wonder if Journal-Sentinel sports editor Garry D. Howard understand the number of WIAC athletes that come from the Southern Wisconsin region?  If you have an answer let me know.

[badgerwarhawk]

UWW Football IS a DYNASTY!


just trying to inflate their heads prior to the playoffs

If there is one over riding characteristic of our staff and this team it is that they take nothing for granted.  They respect all opponents and focus their preparation on that opponent and that opponent only.  They know only too well that you can take nothing for granted, even Lakeland.  You could say anything you want, even call them a dynasty, and it won't go to their heads.

[Raider 68]

UWW Football IS a DYNASTY!


just trying to inflate their heads prior to the playoffs

If there is one over riding characteristic of our staff and this team it is that they take nothing for granted.  They respect all opponents and focus their preparation on that opponent and that opponent only.  They know only too well that you can take nothing for granted, even Lakeland.  You could say anything you want, even call them a dynasty, and it won't go to their heads.

Mount Union has had that same approach for each game/opponent since 1985 and their first National title in 1993 and it continues today. Each year Coach Kehres sets a goal to win each game, respect each opponent, not focus on prior games and win the conference. Anything after that is a bonus opportunity. After 10 Titles, that approach seems to have worked!

[02 Warhawk]

UWW Football IS a DYNASTY!


(just trying to inflate their heads prior to the playoffs)

We have great respect for UWW and hope the Raiders see them again

In regards to the "see them again" part, I can't say that the fealing is mutual..I wouldn't exactly lose sleep if Mount bows out before they reach VA.   .......honoslty though, i can't see anyone on that side of the bracket beating you guys, so i don't see it happen.

[Raider 68]

UWW Football IS a DYNASTY!


(just trying to inflate their heads prior to the playoffs)

We have great respect for UWW and hope the Raiders see them again![/color]

Can't say that the fealing is mutual...I wouldn't exactly lose sleep if Mount bows out before they reach VA.   .......honoslty though, i can't see anyone on that side of the bracket beating you guys, so i don't see it happen.

02 Warhawk,

They are many supporters, alums, etc. from both Mount Union and UWW that would rather see another opponent vs. the same one for 4 years.

The problem with another opponent, who is out there that is better than these two teams, obviously no one in the last four years, but each year is different. Both Mount and UWW could lose before Salem and change all that. Personally, I am sure the coaches want to play the best in D3 and
that what makes it different than all the other match-ups and seeding (if the NCAA gets with it).

The great thing about all this is at the end of the day, the two best teams
meet, unlike the D1 teams which do not have the opportunity to really prove their claims.

[bleedpurple]

UWW Football IS a DYNASTY!


just trying to inflate their heads prior to the playoffs

If there is one over riding characteristic of our staff and this team it is that they take nothing for granted.  They respect all opponents and focus their preparation on that opponent and that opponent only.  They know only too well that you can take nothing for granted, even Lakeland.  You could say anything you want, even call them a dynasty, and it won't go to their heads.

Mount Union has had that same approach for each game/opponent since 1985 and their first National title in 1993 and it continues today. Each year Coach Kehres sets a goal to win each game, respect each opponent, not focus on prior games and win the conference. Anything after that is a bonus opportunity. After 10 Titles, that approach seems to have worked!

For the record, my comment about Mount being able to claim dynasty was sincere. Their record speaks for itself. Having said that, my guess is that word doesn't even come up there all that often. The approach Raider68 speaks of  is exactly how I would describe UWW's approach. I think that not only gives a program the best chance of success on the field, but it also will develop young men with integrity and character (ok quit laughing Mount guys.  ).

[warhawkbabe]

Here is a legit question for everyone to ponder are Mount Union and Whitewater becoming the Nebraska, Notre Dame, Florida of d1 football.
Where it is everyone's Stagg bowl when they play them, and no matter whom the opponent or their record they are going to give them their best shot. Because of the success of both programs Obviously Mount Union has dominated the OAC for some time as they seem to win the title every year. While WW has won their title outright or a share of it the past five years and have literally played for the title in the last game of the year every year since 2002.
Just something I was thinking about. I will admit I went overboard with calling the warhawks a dynasty as well as DLK Mr. Whitewater. However I am sure there are a lot worse names people have called DLK. At one time I remember reading that there was a DLKSUCKS.COM website.

[Just Bill]

Sean O'Reilly seems to be having some gender identity issues as well.  I'm sure there's plenty of good therapists in Whitewater who could help him through it.  Be strong, Sean!

[raiderguy]

UWW Football IS a DYNASTY!


just trying to inflate their heads prior to the playoffs

If there is one over riding characteristic of our staff and this team it is that they take nothing for granted.  They respect all opponents and focus their preparation on that opponent and that opponent only.  They know only too well that you can take nothing for granted, even Lakeland.  You could say anything you want, even call them a dynasty, and it won't go to their heads.

Mount Union has had that same approach for each game/opponent since 1985 and their first National title in 1993 and it continues today. Each year Coach Kehres sets a goal to win each game, respect each opponent, not focus on prior games and win the conference. Anything after that is a bonus opportunity. After 10 Titles, that approach seems to have worked!

For the record, my comment about Mount being able to claim dynasty was sincere. Their record speaks for itself. Having said that, my guess is that word doesn't even come up there all that often. The approach Raider68 speaks of  is exactly how I would describe UWW's approach. I think that not only gives a program the best chance of success on the field, but it also will develop young men with integrity and character (ok quit laughing Mount guys.  ).

Well said and not laughing. PPPPPPPPLLLLusss K too!

[badgerwarhawk]

I know that I hope like heck WHITEWATER is neither the Nebraska nor the Notre Dame of DIII football.  Neither of those programs have been elite D1 programs for some time now.  Florida on the other hand is a different story.