FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[dallas]

The player's game is Nick Kukoc. I guess you think you're funny but calling him Toni Kukoc doesn't seem like you respect NCC at all.
NCC has a lot of respect for UWW and UMU, and all the other teams remaining.

2) Toni Kukoc kid is pretty good at running back 

3) As this week goes on, I am respecting what NCC has done but I am loving the picking against WW and hearing how bad this

5) I hope that NCC buys into the hype of this WW team being less of a defense because they have given up points.  I think the o

Lighten up Francis...

[BoBo]

T_unit,  where did anyone ever say UWW has a bad defense or a bad team?  Ulu guys are going a long way to manufacture the disrespect card. Maybe there actually are another team or two that are pretty good and they deserve some credit for playing well?

It was been mentioned early and often this week that considering the amount of points that UWW has given up to Franklin and Trine and other various reasons, that perhaps the UWW defense isn't as strong as was previous thought; fbf413 made a specific reference to the OAC board and to a lesser extent CCIW board (excluding you and HS coach), her post included this tidbit:

There seems to be a consensus building on the OAC board and to a lesser degree, the CCIW board, (HScoach and Usee excluded,) that the Warhawks are going to lose this game for various reasons but the logic that seems to be coming up the most is that our defense is just not good enough.

The manufacturing of disrespect is coming from elsewhere, IMO. It's being commented upon here.

[usee]

Hey bp, i saw in the stats for the uwec game ncc held them to 13 yds net brushing and lowly UWW could only keep it to 68 total rush yds. And NCC had to face sweeney the whole game! Also, after some serious halftime adjustments, Ncc was able to hold ONU to zero points and just 85 total yds while they kept the starters in. They also somehow faced the #5, #12 and # 14 leading rushers in the country (coppage is # 7) as well as the #19, #35, and #37 ranked passers (Ray is #17 and watt #73) and still hold them all to 3.6 yds per play while beating them by more than 20 pts. I checked for some comparable national leaders in the wiac but no one is ranked in the top 50 in any of those categories . But UWW is holding those teams to just 3.8 yds per play.   

Now there's some selective stats for ya ton chew on. 

[usee]

Bobo- ff413 is not an oac or cciw poster. She is uww. Her conclusion is what you quote. The only thing I have seen is a few people picking NCC to win. And that's because, gasp, some people think they are a good team too! Not because they UWW is bad. That's manufactured, unless youbwant to quote seventies from the oac board and we all know how much credibility he has.   

[emma17]

USee,
Is the "ranked passers" category based on yardage?  I don't doubt the statistics, it's just that I see people use different measurements.  For instance, the below NCAA site shows passing efficiency, which ranks the quarterbacks very differently.

http://statistics.ncaafootball.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=ncaa-football&page=cf-div3/stats/stats2.aspx

This gets to be like politics where everyone is quoting different sources. 

[dallas]

Here's a hot sports opinion....I think the difference in score will be less than a touchdown.  I don't think the team is underestimating NCC, but I think we, as fans, are.  Of course, I've basically said/thought this with every single game since 2000.  My concerns mean nothing at this point.  

I guess you can just chalk it up as respecting the opponent no matter what the matchup looks like on paper, and, as a fan watching the D3 playoffs, all of these teams strike a little fear.  As a player there was no fear.

[BoBo]

Usee, THANK YOU for pointing out that fbf413 is UWW and is just quoting what was being said on the OAC and CCIW board. That explains a lot.   You read something different into the comments being made. So be it; that was expected.

[usee]

Emma- you are probably right. But I can tell you Evan jones is every bit as good a qb as Ray and watt and NCC made him look silly. And dion Wilson, Scottie williams, and donley are all pretty good rbis that got nothing vs NCC. I don't think any of those rbs are better than  coppage but it's not the grand canyon separating them.    

[usee]

Bobo, what I said was no one has pointed to any quotes that say UWW has a bad defense or is a bad team. T.Unit said otherwise and it simply isn't True...thus the manufactured part.

[bleedpurple]

Hey bp, i saw in the stats for the uwec game ncc held them to 13 yds net brushing and lowly UWW could only keep it to 68 total rush yds. And NCC had to face sweeney the whole game! Also, after some serious halftime adjustments, Ncc was able to hold ONU to zero points and just 85 total yds while they kept the starters in. They also somehow faced the #5, #12 and # 14 leading rushers in the country (coppage is # 7) as well as the #19, #35, and #37 ranked passers (Ray is #17 and watt #73) and still hold them all to 3.6 yds per play while beating them by more than 20 pts. I checked for some comparable national leaders in the wiac but no one is ranked in the top 50 in any of those categories . But UWW is holding those teams to just 3.8 yds per play.   

Now there's some selective stats for ya ton chew on. 

Maybe you should post these stats on the CCIW board.  It will give them something to hold on to after their precious #1 seed's season comes to an end on Saturday. 

[bleedpurple]

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[Stagg Again!!]

Franklin beat Baldwin Wallace in 2008 and 2009 as well as as ringing up 62 on #9 Otterbein in the playoffs in 2008.  FC beat NCC 45-34 (maybe 36) in 2008 and lost on last second play in 2007 to NCC.  That said I think NCC will beat UWW.  NCC brings a much stouter defense, one that I think can keep Coppage honest.  With a couple big plays extracted, FC did a decent job on the guy themselves. FC held their own on the line with UWW and the game wasnt really broken open until the 4th (same for Trine).  NCC is better on both sides of the line IMO and that will be the difference.  Just my opinion.  Game close either way.

Don't believe a word that the Griz says for he knows nothing about North Central football.  NCC has actually never played against FC.  NCC was actually playing Benedictine in the playoffs in 2007 and 2008.  Also, Griz probably did not travel up to the Perk to see the UWW v. FC game this year as FC does not travel well.  Their fans usually stay at home.  Don't believe the Griz for he has absolutely no basis for making such outlandish assertions!!  There is absolutely no way NCC can defeat UWW.  No way at all. 

[BoBo]

Bobo, what I said was no one has pointed to any quotes that say UWW has a bad defense or is a bad team. T.Unit said otherwise and it simply isn't True...thus the manufactured part.

Understand...that's fair.

[BoBo]

Franklin beat Baldwin Wallace in 2008 and 2009 as well as as ringing up 62 on #9 Otterbein in the playoffs in 2008.  FC beat NCC 45-34 (maybe 36) in 2008 and lost on last second play in 2007 to NCC.  That said I think NCC will beat UWW.  NCC brings a much stouter defense, one that I think can keep Coppage honest.  With a couple big plays extracted, FC did a decent job on the guy themselves. FC held their own on the line with UWW and the game wasnt really broken open until the 4th (same for Trine).  NCC is better on both sides of the line IMO and that will be the difference.  Just my opinion.  Game close either way.

Don't believe a word that the Griz says for he knows nothing about North Central football.  NCC has actually never played against FC.  NCC was actually playing Benedictine in the playoffs in 2007 and 2008.  Also, Griz probably did not travel up to the Perk to see the UWW v. FC game this year as FC does not travel well.  Their fans usually stay at home.  Don't believe the Griz for he has absolutely no basis for making such outlandish assertions!!  There is absolutely no way NCC can defeat UWW.  No way at all.  

We used to call this a PhD response - piled high and deep!    Time to get out the hip-waders.

[Stagg Again!!]

Franklin beat Baldwin Wallace in 2008 and 2009 as well as as ringing up 62 on #9 Otterbein in the playoffs in 2008.  FC beat NCC 45-34 (maybe 36) in 2008 and lost on last second play in 2007 to NCC.  That said I think NCC will beat UWW.  NCC brings a much stouter defense, one that I think can keep Coppage honest.  With a couple big plays extracted, FC did a decent job on the guy themselves. FC held their own on the line with UWW and the game wasnt really broken open until the 4th (same for Trine).  NCC is better on both sides of the line IMO and that will be the difference.  Just my opinion.  Game close either way.

Don't believe a word that the Griz says for he knows nothing about North Central football.  NCC has actually never played against FC.  NCC was actually playing Benedictine in the playoffs in 2007 and 2008.  Also, Griz probably did not travel up to the Perk to see the UWW v. FC game this year as FC does not travel well.  Their fans usually stay at home.  Don't believe the Griz for he has absolutely no basis for making such outlandish assertions!!  There is absolutely no way NCC can defeat UWW.  No way at all.  

We used to call this a PhD response - piled high and deep!    Time to get out the hip-waders.

I got mine out three weeks ago and have had them on ever since!     It has been fun reading through all of the posts on the WIAC and CCIW boards though.  Clearly, the UWW and NCC fans are quite passionate.  This is what makes college football America's sport -- IMO.