FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Champs07]

One more thing...food for thought going into the off-season...

-Is it possible that the starting QB for the 2010 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS is 5-0 in the play-offs, never started a regular season game, wins a title as a Soph, and never takes a snap as the starting QB for the 'Hawks again???

-Answer: Blanchard is clearly still the starting QB next yr, and the transfer scene is looking pretty good....

[Mugsy]

Quote on the CCIW Board:

"I think North Central gets the majority of the recruits they want from the area. Coppage is a product of the system... I'm not even sure if he would start at NCC, bold statement? Sure, but the truth. Guys like Reabel & Wenger weren't highly recruited out of HS, they were good players in HS and they worked their tails off and became a player well beyond expectations."

   Have at it, guys.

In fairness and to avoid taking this completely out of context, this was from a single poster with only 50 or so posts (and a large negative karma total).  He/she is not a regular on the board.

If you read the posts after this one, you find that there isn't a single person who agrees with this opinion.  There isn't a single CCIW poster who seconds this thought.  I for one view this as one of the top 10 most ignorant posts of the year.

So label the entire CCIW board as arrogant if you'd like, but I think that would be a serious over-generalization.  This was an unsubstantiated, crazy post of a single person (based on their opinion, which they are entitled too), but not supported by anyone else.

[usee]

Agreed Mugsy. Bad as that statement was by 1 poster, to characterize the CCIW board generally as a result of this isn't much better.

Coppage needs no defense. He showed what he is made of the last few weeks.

[Warhawk 96]

Quote on the CCIW Board:

"I think North Central gets the majority of the recruits they want from the area. Coppage is a product of the system... I'm not even sure if he would start at NCC, bold statement? Sure, but the truth. Guys like Reabel & Wenger weren't highly recruited out of HS, they were good players in HS and they worked their tails off and became a player well beyond expectations."

   Have at it, guys.

In fairness and to avoid taking this completely out of context, this was from a single poster with only 50 or so posts (and a large negative karma total).  He/she is not a regular on the board.

If you read the posts after this one, you find that there isn't a single person who agrees with this opinion.  There isn't a single CCIW poster who seconds this thought.  I for one view this as one of the top 10 most ignorant posts of the year.

So label the entire CCIW board as arrogant if you'd like, but I think that would be a serious over-generalization.  This was an unsubstantiated, crazy post of a single person (based on their opinion, which they are entitled too), but not supported by anyone else.

don't worry, we understand. There's one in every family as they say.

[warhawkbabe]

While the last four seasons of UW-Whitewater football have been very impressive to say that they are a dynasty is a little early. Yes they have beaten Moun Union three of the last four stagg bowls. However Mount Union has 10 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP. Whitewater has three. Don't get me wrong Whitewater is a GREAT PROGRAM. however to say that they are on the same level as Mount Union is also a little early. 10 national championship in I believe thirteen trips to the stagg bowl.
Also Champs07 as far as your statement North Central doesn't belong in the same book!! No one gives a Sh$t about who is number two/three in the country!!  If you aren't the champs...it doesn't matter!!
I totally agree but I also remember that after the 05 and 06 stagg bowls Whitewater had national runners up on their rings. It seems that it mattered to UW-Whitewater that second place did matter.
I agree with you though First place is the only one that matters.
It will be interesting to see if Whitewater can keep the amazing and very impressive streak going next year. As they need to reload at some of the positions although Coppage and Blanchard are both back. So two of the key components are back to lead the hawks back to Salem in 2011.

[Warhawk 96]

Speak of the devil...

[warhawkbabe]

96- I know what your saying however I was mentioning how ww had national runners up on their rings in 05 and 06, as well as Mount Union has been to the stagg bowl 13 times. These are all facts. I did not make a crazy comment like the guy from NCC saying coppage couldn't play at NCC or that Raebe was not a good player.
Coppage could defintely start at NCC.
Like I said Whitewater has an impressive streak going. Yes they have beaten Mount Union three of the last four times but to say that they are at or above them. Thats where you have to mention the 10 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS IN THIRTEEN TRIPS. That is the standard they have made and that is the standard which needs to be surpassed before anyone claims that they are truly better then Mount Union. Like I said Whitewater has an impressive streak going,and I am sure are the favorites to be the #1 in the country going into 2011 as well as the favorites to get back to the stagg bowl. However like they know repeating as national champions once is hard enough. Going for a three peat is even tougher as the target on your back has just gotten that much bigger.

[Warhawk 96]

96- I know what your saying however I was mentioning how ww had national runners up on their rings in 05 and 06, as well as Mount Union has been to the stagg bowl 13 times. These are all facts. I did not make a crazy comment like the guy from NCC saying coppage couldn't play at NCC or that Raebe was not a good player.
Coppage could defintely start at NCC.
Like I said Whitewater has an impressive streak going. Yes they have beaten Mount Union three of the last four times but to say that they are at or above them. Thats where you have to mention the 10 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS IN THIRTEEN TRIPS. That is the standard they have made and that is the standard which needs to be surpassed before anyone claims that they are truly better then Mount Union. Like I said Whitewater has an impressive streak going,and I am sure are the favorites to be the #1 in the country going into 2011 as well as the favorites to get back to the stagg bowl. However like they know repeating as national champions once is hard enough. Going for a three peat is even tougher as the target on your back has just gotten that much bigger.

Babe, normally I ignore you but since you asked for it.....

You can't put 05-06 rings into the same context because when we got them, it was the best that we had done up to that point. Why are every single one of your posts about what happened five years ago Sean? Get over it, we have and we are enjoying the present. WE JUST WON A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP! If you live your life focused on the times that you've fallen short you are going to live a long, miserable life and I think you're finding that out right now.

[oshfb]

Nate Heard represented UW-Oshkosh this past weekend in the annual 2010 Tazón de Estrellas (Bowl of the Stars) pitting some of the best in DIII against a Mexican all-star squad. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like any other WIAC player had the opportunity to play.

Heard is the 3rd UWO player in the all-star game since 2005 (I believe). Bob Docherty in 2005, James Taraboi in 2009 and now Nate Heard in 2010. Heard finished with a single solo tackle a 2 passess defended.

http://www.titans.uwosh.edu/Football/

Results of the game can be found here: http://www.willamette.edu/athletics/news/archive/2010/12/18_Tazon_de_Estrellas.php

[warhawkbabe]

96
I agree that the 05 and 06 were the best seasons WW had since brez played and took them to the NAIA championship game.  However The only place that cihts is first no matter how much success you have or haven't had. Second place is the first loser.
Thats why I said the streak WW is on is very impressive and it will be interesting to see it continue espcially with coppage and Blanchard coming back,and the coaches making sure that the players stay focus on next year and not the past. Which I am sure is the message being sent to the team from the staff starting today if not yesterday.

[badgerwarhawk]

Come on 96 give Sean some credit.     He's  made consecutive posts without mentioning Stan Zweifel.  It might be some sort of record.

[warhawkguard]

Did you guys see the close up during the game as Coppage got the ball, made a move to the line, and he had a Raider linebacker set up in the hole ready for the tackle, then he juked right, the backer bit, he went left and had a big run? That was absolutely beautiful. The Raider linebackers are very well coached, they played magnificently. Had Coppage not been such a talented and elusive back, the running game would have been like everyone else Mount played this year. The camera work for the game was the best yet.

The debate over who is best is tough in my book. Today, and the last several years, UWW has the upper hand. This last game was still in doubt with a few minutes to go. Mr. Shorts was very scary from the backfield, and could have broke loose at any second as he almost did. The fumble stopped what looked to be an inevitable score. Only the Coppage run sealed the game. In my book, UMU has not fallen down as much as UWW has risen up. Today, UWW is just a bit better than UMU. Could they sweep a 3 game series? Until that is a 100% yes, these two programs are still the best. Until one of these programs falls down and can't keep getting to the Stagg Bowl, they are in their own class. Put either team in any bracket, with any seed, and the odds are they will still both arrive in Salem. Will somebody step up and knock one down? For 6 years they all have tried, and failed.

[warhawkguard]

Coach Zwiefel was my Offensive Coordinator. Man that guy was was intense dude! Where is he coaching these days anyways? Sorry, I saw the name and now I'm curious....

[warhawkbabe]

The big quaestion is can anyone in division three not Whitewater or Mount Union off on their way tot he stagg bowl???
I don't think so as some have said the NCAA  not making UWW a #1 seed, as wella s the fact that none of the schools in Wisconsin or other states around the midwest will Play Whitewater.
Is it true that Franklin has agreed to play WW in 2011. If so props to them. Hopfully more d3 schools will play WW in the future so the NCAA can't hold playing naia schools against them.
As far as were Mr. Zweifel is coaching warhawkguard. He is the head coach at Dubque college in Dubque Iowa. He just finished his second year.

[02 Warhawk]

The debate over who is best is tough in my book. Today, and the last several years, UWW has the upper hand. This last game was still in doubt with a few minutes to go. Mr. Shorts was very scary from the backfield, and could have broke loose at any second as he almost did. The fumble stopped what looked to be an inevitable score. Only the Coppage run sealed the game. In my book, UMU has not fallen down as much as UWW has risen up. Today, UWW is just a bit better than UMU. Could they sweep a 3 game series? Until that is a 100% yes, these two programs are still the best. Until one of these programs falls down and can't keep getting to the Stagg Bowl, they are in their own class. Put either team in any bracket, with any seed, and the odds are they will still both arrive in Salem. Will somebody step up and knock one down? For 6 years they all have tried, and failed.

While I was watching the game with my small group of friends/family we had a little debate about Shorts playing QB vs WR. It looks like I'm still in the minority that, as a UWW fan, I would much rather have him play QB than WR.

My thought process is, I like the fact that 11 defensive players stand between him and the endzone while at QB...where as at WR, he only has to make one or two people miss to break lose....like he did in the first half.

Plus with Shorts under center, UMU loses the best player in DIII at the WR position. So unless he pulls a Bugs Bunny type move where he passes it too himself to a long TD, I like my chances of our DBs covering someone other than Shorts....while having our speedy D-line and LBs spy on him, while they may bend but never break.