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[02 Warhawk]

If I were one of the players fined $50000 or $75000 earlier in the season I'd be calling the commissioner's office and asking why my hit cost me five to seven and half times more than Peppers' cost him.  I don't think Peppers intended to harm Rodgers or that his hit was intentional but I don't think several of the other players fined earlier in the season meant it either and their penalty was significantly more severe.  This just doesn't seem consistant at all. 

I've seen worse helmet to helmet hits on the QB this season. this was more like a helmet to shoulder/helmet hit. That penalty was a big part of that game....it was the right call though.

Pepper's Hit

But I agree...intended to injure him??? No way

[BoBo]

I respect all your opinions, but I don't know. Each time I looked at it, I reached the same conclusion. The crown of his helmet hit first. I saw that picture you were referring to 413, but it was taken slightly after initial impact. In the other game, the Steeler DB could have easily done the same as Peppers. He had a free shot of the QB, but instead of going in head first, he went after the ball - and it resulted in a TD. How to you account for the fact that Peppers didn't even try to swipe at the ball? With the angle he was coming in at, slightly on the blindside, it seemed like going after the ball would be the no-brainer thing to do.

[02 Warhawk]

I respect all your opinions, but I don't know. Each time I looked at it, I reached the same conclusion. The crown of his helmet hit first. I saw that picture you were referring to 413, but it was taken slightly after initial impact. In the other game, the Steeler DB could have easily done the same as Peppers. He had a free shot of the QB, but instead of going in head first, he went after the ball - and it resulted in a TD. How to you account for the fact that Peppers didn't even try to swipe at the ball? With the angle he was coming in at, slightly on the blindside, it seemed like going after the ball would be the no-brainer thing to do.

B/c the ball already left his hand right as Peppers got to him. He probably would of swiped at it if he got there a split second earlier.

[footballfan413]

If I were one of the players fined $50000 or $75000 earlier in the season I'd be calling the commissioner's office and asking why my hit cost me five to seven and half times more than Peppers' cost him.  I don't think Peppers intended to harm Rodgers or that his hit was intentional but I don't think several of the other players fined earlier in the season meant it either and their penalty was significantly more severe.  This just doesn't seem consistant at all. 

The players union made the call for them and several of the large fines were reduced.  There is speculation that the league recognizes that they over fined in the early stages of this new rule and have adjusted those fines. In the beginning it was more of an attempt to set an example of a few players.  And seriously, some of those early fines were for very aggressive head hunting hits which can not be said about Peppers hit........ again, IMHO.  Maybe new fines are more in the context of that change and less of a knee jerk, "we want your attention," kind of thing. 


http://playerperspective.com/?p=370

[footballfan413]

If I were one of the players fined $50000 or $75000 earlier in the season I'd be calling the commissioner's office and asking why my hit cost me five to seven and half times more than Peppers' cost him.  I don't think Peppers intended to harm Rodgers or that his hit was intentional but I don't think several of the other players fined earlier in the season meant it either and their penalty was significantly more severe.  This just doesn't seem consistant at all. 

I've seen worse helmet to helmet hits on the QB this season. this was more like a helmet to shoulder/helmet hit. That penalty was a big part of that game....it was the right call though.

Pepper's Hit

But I agree...intended to injure him??? No way

Well, the actual video does show that his head and helmet went first as BoBo said.  I just don't know how a defender avoids that when making a tackle for the most part.  You can't make a tackle standing upright!     And don't make me listen to Joe Buck any more than absolutely necessary, 02!  I can't stand the guy!   

[badgerwarhawk]

The second bear rusher that reached Rodgers also could have been penalized for a hand to the head.  His hand clearly makes contact with Rodgers face mask.  

I was unaware that the NFL had been reducing the previous fines they had dished out.  But reading your link 413, $50 went to $25 and $40, $75 went to $50.  All of those fines are still significantly higher than Peppers $10.  $10 is a joke, Peppers makes alot more than that per quarter.  

I'm just glad that Rodgers wasn't injured on the play.  Fortunately he's been wearing the new helmet which is probably the reason he wasn't injured.    

[footballfan413]

The second bear rusher that reached Rodgers also could have been penalized for a hand to the head.  His hand clearly makes contact with Rodgers face mask.  

I was unaware that the NFL had been reducing the previous fines they had dished out.  But reading your link 413, $50 went to $25 and $40, $75 went to $50.  All of those fines are still significantly higher than Peppers $10.  $10 is a joke, Peppers makes alot more than that per quarter.  

I'm just glad that Rodgers wasn't injured on the play.  Fortunately he's been wearing the new helmet which is probably the reason he wasn't injured.    

Ya, I figured the reductions being minor would be brought up by someone.  There is definitely a big discrepancy between Peppers fine and the previous fines even after reduction.

[emma17]

GB fans, quit your whining as you're making us all look bad .  If Peppers had a history of headhunting the fine would have been greater- I'm sure Peppers wanted to knock the crap out of him as much as we were glad Lane Olson did it against Whittenberg in 2009 (I think that's the playoff game they knocked the qb silly) and AJ did it against Lacrosse in 2007. What's good for the goose....

[warhawkbabe]

I agree with emma, of course if that was Tom Brady sitting back there he would have gotten twice the fine. Can't hit the NFL's "GOLDEN CHILD" like that.
Also agree with Emma on the 07 hit that A.J. put on UWLX QB. Can't find the highlight but I remember watching it and someone saying it looked like he lead with his head being the UWW back er I was I told the UWLX graduate to Shut the HECK up, and that the Lx QB is out because he was a PUSSY. Not to mention he has never bbeen hit that hard in his career.

[bleedpurple]

With all the Bears and Packers fans still going at it a bit over various aspects of last week's game, I thought I'd bring a bit of levity and a unique aspect of the rivalry.  Here is a cool article on my uncle, who won Championships with both the Packers (Curly Lambeau was his coach) and the Bears (George Halas was his coach).

As bitter as it sometimes gets, I love the historical aspects of the rivalry and the stories of the "olden days" are awesome!

Our family has had quite a few laughs about Butch's "relationship" with Curly! 

http://host.madison.com/sports/columnists/tom_oates/article_2b98f656-26aa-11e0-b709-001cc4c002e0.html

[BoBo]

If I were one of the players fined $50000 or $75000 earlier in the season I'd be calling the commissioner's office and asking why my hit cost me five to seven and half times more than Peppers' cost him.  I don't think Peppers intended to harm Rodgers or that his hit was intentional but I don't think several of the other players fined earlier in the season meant it either and their penalty was significantly more severe.  This just doesn't seem consistant at all.  

I've seen worse helmet to helmet hits on the QB this season. this was more like a helmet to shoulder/helmet hit. That penalty was a big part of that game....it was the right call though.

Pepper's Hit

But I agree...intended to injure him??? No way

Well, the actual video does show that his head and helmet went first as BoBo said.  I just don't know how a defender avoids that when making a tackle for the most part.  You can't make a tackle standing upright!    And don't make me listen to Joe Buck any more than absolutely necessary, 02!  I can't stand the guy!  

Thank you for acknowledging this fact fbf413. It was enviable considering Peppers is, what, 6'7" and Rodgers is only 6'2'. To get his head in the position he hit him, he had to lower his head like a bull charging a matador's muleta. I know that Rodgers has a quick release, but Peppers could have attempted to go after the ball first 02 Warhawk, and then Rodgers second. If the ball was already gone, he shouldn't have hit him full bore in the earhole, with his eyes facing the turf in the first place. I'm sure if Rodgers had been injuried, retribution would've be taken care of on the field that day - forget 10 Grand fines, NFL Championship game exposure. And emma17, Bears fans have been actually whining for going on 20 years about Charles Martin, Chester Marcol, and more recently The Majik Man (and probably a lot of other things that I'm not privy too since I don't bleed blue and orange)...in the spirit of fair play, Packer fans can talk intelligently about Peppers for 1 week. You have my permission to call me out if Packer fans are still talking about it in 2030!!      All's fair in love and war - and rivalries like Packers-Bears.

[BoBo]

With all the Bears and Packers fans still going at it a bit over various aspects of last week's game, I thought I'd bring a bit of levity and a unique aspect of the rivalry.  Here is a cool article on my uncle, who won Championships with both the Packers (Curly Lambeau was his coach) and the Bears (George Halas was his coach).

As bitter as it sometimes gets, I love the historical aspects of the rivalry and the stories of the "olden days" are awesome!

Our family has had quite a few laughs about Butch's "relationship" with Curly! 

http://host.madison.com/sports/columnists/tom_oates/article_2b98f656-26aa-11e0-b709-001cc4c002e0.html

Very  nice bp!!

[emma17]

Bobo,
I'm all for intelligent talk about the Packers, so lets do more of that.

I'd feel a whole lot more confident about the Pack's chances against the Steelers if they didn't allow an inferior Bear's team to hang around.  People can say they didn't feel the game was ever in jeopardy, but history is full of superior teams that lost to inferior teams by not putting them away (UWW vs. Trine was close to that).  I want to believe the Pack will find success passing against the Steelers given Rogers' ability to get rid of the ball.  One thing I noticed in the first half especially is how the Bear's corners allowed the Pack's receivers to release untouched- it allowed for 20 yard completions and not enough time to get pressure on Rogers.  I'm not sure how the Steelers corners play, but if they are up close on the recievers it will be interesting to see how effective the quick passing game will be.  I'm pulling for the Pack, but this is going to be a tough game given the Steelers' much more effective offense. 

[footballfan413]

With all the Bears and Packers fans still going at it a bit over various aspects of last week's game, I thought I'd bring a bit of levity and a unique aspect of the rivalry.  Here is a cool article on my uncle, who won Championships with both the Packers (Curly Lambeau was his coach) and the Bears (George Halas was his coach).

As bitter as it sometimes gets, I love the historical aspects of the rivalry and the stories of the "olden days" are awesome!

Our family has had quite a few laughs about Butch's "relationship" with Curly!  

http://host.madison.com/sports/columnists/tom_oates/article_2b98f656-26aa-11e0-b709-001cc4c002e0.html

Wow, how cool is that?  Quite a rich football history your family tree has, BP!

[KitchenSink]

Anyone seen or heard anything about the championship apparel being sent out?

And the game DVD isn't available yet, either ....