FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Just Bill]

I don't think she got kicked out. I just think she knew that if the plan to split off UW-Madison failed she'll have created a lot of division among her faculty and staff. Once that point was reached it'd be hard to get much of anything accomplished, so she made sure she had an exit strategy before it got to that point.

[Barber Greene]

I don't think she got kicked out. I just think she knew that if the plan to split off UW-Madison failed she'll have created a lot of division among her faculty and staff. Once that point was reached it'd be hard to get much of anything accomplished, so she made sure she had an exit strategy before it got to that point.

Her bosses, the UW System Board of Regents, were against her plan and she went against them in trying to implement it.  Most of the faculty were in favor of it.  No doubt she was wise to have an exit strategy.

[02 Warhawk]

I don't think she got kicked out. I just think she knew that if the plan to split off UW-Madison failed she'll have created a lot of division among her faculty and staff. Once that point was reached it'd be hard to get much of anything accomplished, so she made sure she had an exit strategy before it got to that point.

Her bosses, the UW System Board of Regents, were against her plan and she went against them in trying to implement it.  Most of the faculty were in favor of it.  No doubt she was wise to have an exit strategy.

Enlighten us non-Badger fans on what this "plan" was? I'm kind of interested now.

[Just Bill]

Martin and others at UW-Madison felt that UW was too restricted in their decision-making processes and the hoops they need to jomp through to get approval/funding for projects. They felt the lack of freedom and autonomy was holding UW back in it's effort to keep pace with the nation's other major public research universities. The New Badger Partnership was a plan to separate UW-Madison from the UW System by creating their own Board of Regents so they could function with more flexibility and less oversight from the UW System and the State Legislature. Martin had Governor Walker on her side (for better or for worse, given Walker's current standing).

Not trying to contradict Barber Greene, but I don't think there were as many strong supporters in the UW Faculty as he does. Just my opinion/observation. There were some to be sure.  I think there was a lot of cautious support, but even in Martin's faculty Q&A's she didn't get a lot of overwhelming love for the plan. She got more of, "Are you really, really sure this is a good idea?"

The other UW System schools and the Board of Regents were opposed fearing splitting off the flagship school would eventually sink the whole boat. Many were concerned that once UW-Madison had that kind of freedom, they would raise tuition rates which would price many state residents out, leaving it to wealthy non-residents. There was a fear that with the UW-Madison separate, funds (from government and from donations) would channel toward UW-Madison, more than they already do, and the rest of the UW System would suffer. They were willing to find ways to give UW-Madison more flexibility, but not willing to separate them from the UW System.

Ultimately, the State Legislature agreed with the UW System. Many were willing to grant UW-Madison some new flexibililty, but not willing to break up the UW System.

[wab64]

        The WIAA can solve its scheduling difficulties with one easy step. Pick up the whole conference and move it to Div II, where it belongs, considering the size of the enrollments and state support.

[badgerwarhawk]

How is the WIAA (Wisconsin Interscholastic Athletic Association) suppose to solve the scheduling problems of the WIAC (Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference)?

The WIAC isn't going to go DII now or at any time in the foreseeable future.  We'll find a way to deal with the scheduling issues and the rest of the state's DIII programs can continue to hide from us.  None of them will reach the next level doing that but that's their choice. 

I'm not even going to bother dealing with the enrollment/state support points you've raised.  They've been discussed to death and I'm not inclined to start the discussion over again.   However I do wish you could come up with something new.  It's all getting pretty boring.

[Just Bill]

        The WIAA can solve its scheduling difficulties with one easy step. Pick up the whole conference and move it to Div II, where it belongs, considering the size of the enrollments and state support.

I don't know. I'm not so sure Appleton East High School would do so well against Winona State.  

And we've beaten that horse so many times, we are on the ASPCA's Most Wanted list.

[02 Warhawk]

        The WIAA WIAC can solve its scheduling difficulties with one easy step. Pick up the whole conference and move it to Div II, where it belongs, considering the size of the enrollments and state support.

And who exactly is going to fund the scholarships that are offered up, in this well thought out plan of yours?? 

"Easy step" you say?? Obviously you have no idea what you're talking about.

[02 Warhawk]

Martin and others at UW-Madison felt that UW was too restricted in their decision-making processes and the hoops they need to jomp through to get approval/funding for projects. They felt the lack of freedom and autonomy was holding UW back in it's effort to keep pace with the nation's other major public research universities. The New Badger Partnership was a plan to separate UW-Madison from the UW System by creating their own Board of Regents so they could function with more flexibility and less oversight from the UW System and the State Legislature. Martin had Governor Walker on her side (for better or for worse, given Walker's current standing).

Not trying to contradict Barber Greene, but I don't think there were as many strong supporters in the UW Faculty as he does. Just my opinion/observation. There were some to be sure.  I think there was a lot of cautious support, but even in Martin's faculty Q&A's she didn't get a lot of overwhelming love for the plan. She got more of, "Are you really, really sure this is a good idea?"

The other UW System schools and the Board of Regents were opposed fearing splitting off the flagship school would eventually sink the whole boat. Many were concerned that once UW-Madison had that kind of freedom, they would raise tuition rates which would price many state residents out, leaving it to wealthy non-residents. There was a fear that with the UW-Madison separate, funds (from government and from donations) would channel toward UW-Madison, more than they already do, and the rest of the UW System would suffer. They were willing to find ways to give UW-Madison more flexibility, but not willing to separate them from the UW System.

Ultimately, the State Legislature agreed with the UW System. Many were willing to grant UW-Madison some new flexibililty, but not willing to break up the UW System.

Wow...I guess I should watch the news more often. This would have been huge if it was played out.

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

        The WIAA WIAC can solve its scheduling difficulties with one easy step. Pick up the whole conference and move it to Div II, where it belongs, considering the size of the enrollments and state support.

And who exactly is going to fund the scholarships that are offered up, in this well thought out plan of yours?? 

"Easy step" you say?? Obviously you have no idea what you're talking about.

Don't they have DII Non-Scholarship schools?

[Pat Coleman]

There are non-scholarship programs but not non-scholarship schools. (Such as Gannon, if this is still the case, doesn't give football scholarships but is D-II.)

There is a minimum amount of scholarships/athletics aid you must give as a school in order to be in Division II.

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Thanks Pat.  I was thinking of Jacksonville University, but they are D1 FCS Non-Scholarship Football.

[Barber Greene]

Warhawks finish 6th in final Directors' Cup standings.

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/nacda/sports/directorscup/auto_pdf/d3june17.pdf

[02 Warhawk]

Warhawks finish 6th in final Directors' Cup standings.

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/nacda/sports/directorscup/auto_pdf/d3june17.pdf

wow, very impressive!

[Raider 68]

Happy Father's Day to all!