FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[02 Warhawk]

For those familiar with WI high school football, I am curious as to what you may know about a player and team mentioned in the text below that was posted on the MIAA site:

"I would not be too shocked. Rauch is 18 but i argue that he has played at a higher level. The only team he lost to was Waunakee who is one of the best HS teams in the Nation. This might be hard for you to believe but Waunakee against UW Whitewater would be a blood bath. Waunakee being younger but bigger faster. Many of their players from last year are playing for the Badgers now."

So what they're saying is this HS team is better than any DIII team out there?

[Sakman 1111]

Simply ridiculous...............

[badgerwarhawk]

Absolutely absurd.  The individual who said that should buy a clue.  I'm very familiar with Waunakee and have even broadcast a few of their games in the past.  They are not bigger or faster than any WIAC team and playing against them would be a joke.  They are a very good DII high school football team.  He's right about the "blood bath" but it would be the high schoolers showering afterward.

Those of you who have been around for a while might remember Scott Krause a Waunakee graduate who was an All American quarterback at Stevens Point.  He also played in the CFL for the Toronto Argonauts.  I'll never forget the touchdown run he had against the WARHAWKS in Perkins Stadium. It looked like he was going to be tackled four or five times but he just kept going.  Point beat us 17-14. 

[jaypeter]

Absolutely absurd.  The individual who said that should buy a clue. 

If he's foolish enough to say that, then I'm not so sure he could have a job that would pay him enough to afford to buy that clue he so desperately needs. 

It's a vicious cycle...being so clueless that you can't hold down a job to earn the money that you need to buy your clue which means you're so clueless that you can't hold down a job to earn the money that you...

[BDB]

If ignorance is bliss, this guy is on a permanent high. 

[Just Bill]

I've seen Waunakee play as well. They are very well coached and execute almost flawlessly. They typically have 3-5 D-I or D-II type guys. They wouldn't have a prayer against any WIAC school.

[BoBo]

Absolutely absurd.  The individual who said that should buy a clue. 

If he's foolish enough to say that, then I'm not so sure he could have a job that would pay him enough to afford to buy that clue he so desperately needs. 

It's a vicious cycle...being so clueless that you can't hold down a job to earn the money that you need to buy your clue which means you're so clueless that you can't hold down a job to earn the money that you...

I know plenty of people who hold down jobs, good jobs, but are still clueless!!  And not all of them are civil servants.     

[BoBo]

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This chart could help you decide. . .

[fballfan]

I love the chart - at least what I can read.  I'm having a hard time reading some of it.  Any suggestions?

And any word on Kickoff?  Today's the day, but I don't seem to see it anywhere???

[02 Warhawk]

And any word on Kickoff?  Today's the day, but I don't seem to see it anywhere???

I was thinking the same thing. Maybe it'll come out this afternoon.

[footballfan413]

Kick-off dropped at noon EST. Looks like I have some afternoon reading to catch up on................... 

[cubs]

Every year while I played I would see a group of Freshman who thought they would benefit more by taking a year off to bulk up and/or get quicker than by redshirting and as you put it "sit on the bench". It NEVER worked out. Why?
(1)   They never gained experience working within the offensive or defensive scheme that comes with redshirting (even if it is as a scout player)
(2)   They never gained experience competing against athletes who are at a higher level than themselves
(3)   They never built chemistry that comes with practicing with teammates over an extended period of time
(4)   They never worked as hard in the offseason (weights, conditioning, agility, speed, etc) as the football team did (not even close)

Maybe things have changes since you were there, as I know of a certain UWO DB who chose to save the year of eligibility and work out on his own as a freshman.  He ended up playing significant time as a freshman, earned a starting position as a sophomore, and still has two years left.  He was told he wouldn't ave played as a true freshman, so it looks like he made the right decision.

[emma17]

Kick-off dropped at noon EST. Looks like I have some afternoon reading to catch up on................... 

I just made the mistake of logging into Kickoff- an amazing amount of super intriguing stories- how will I work the rest of the day!!!!
"The Recipe to End the Purple Reign" was my only read so far, an excellent article and interestingly UWW has had to go through 4 of the 5 in the Stagg run- very impressive indeed. 

[fballfan]

Every year while I played I would see a group of Freshman who thought they would benefit more by taking a year off to bulk up and/or get quicker than by redshirting and as you put it "sit on the bench". It NEVER worked out. Why?
(1)   They never gained experience working within the offensive or defensive scheme that comes with redshirting (even if it is as a scout player)
(2)   They never gained experience competing against athletes who are at a higher level than themselves
(3)   They never built chemistry that comes with practicing with teammates over an extended period of time
(4)   They never worked as hard in the offseason (weights, conditioning, agility, speed, etc) as the football team did (not even close)

Maybe things have changes since you were there, as I know of a certain UWO DB who chose to save the year of eligibility and work out on his own as a freshman.  He ended up playing significant time as a freshman, earned a starting position as a sophomore, and still has two years left.  He was told he wouldn't ave played as a true freshman, so it looks like he made the right decision.

I think this will become the norm, unless you are a freshman sensation or badly needed at your position, just because most students are in college now 4+ years.  Since football is the first semester, that makes it pretty easy to do.
Which begs the question.....for those of you who were around when the decision to quit redshirting was made...what was the rationale?  Since athletes are in college longer, it seems red shirting just makes sense.  Obviously, I am missing something.

[footballfan413]

Every year while I played I would see a group of Freshman who thought they would benefit more by taking a year off to bulk up and/or get quicker than by redshirting and as you put it "sit on the bench". It NEVER worked out. Why?
(1)   They never gained experience working within the offensive or defensive scheme that comes with redshirting (even if it is as a scout player)
(2)   They never gained experience competing against athletes who are at a higher level than themselves
(3)   They never built chemistry that comes with practicing with teammates over an extended period of time
(4)   They never worked as hard in the offseason (weights, conditioning, agility, speed, etc) as the football team did (not even close)

Maybe things have changes since you were there, as I know of a certain UWO DB who chose to save the year of eligibility and work out on his own as a freshman.  He ended up playing significant time as a freshman, earned a starting position as a sophomore, and still has two years left.  He was told he wouldn't ave played as a true freshman, so it looks like he made the right decision.

I think this will become the norm, unless you are a freshman sensation or badly needed at your position, just because most students are in college now 4+ years.  Since football is the first semester, that makes it pretty easy to do.
Which begs the question.....for those of you who were around when the decision to quit redshirting was made...what was the rationale?  Since athletes are in college longer, it seems red shirting just makes sense.  Obviously, I am missing something.

WELL....................can't really get into the rationale without getting into that old, "private vs. public debate."   It is my understanding that many of the private schools pushed to have the rule change because they felt that public schools lower tuition rates unfairly put them in the position of having players more open to taking on that 5th year of school even if it wasn't academically required.  That extra year of school was harder to sell to the players at the $30K plus a year schools if they didn't need a 5th year to finish their degree.   Also, there is the argument that red shirting flies in the face of the ideal at the non-scholarship D-3 level.  Athletics are considered more pure at this level and more about playing for the love of the sport and putting the focus and emphasis on the STUDENT in the STUDENT-Athlete. Considering how the cheating/money has poisoned the D-1 level, the later philosophy looks better and better all the time.