FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[WarhawkDad]

Plenty of WIAC athletes get academic scholarships from their schools (and need based as mentioned) as well. The awards just aren't as big since publics aren't as expensive to begin with.

An academic scholarship is much different than an, "aids package," is it not?  One is based on merit and not nearly as common and the other is offered to many, MANY students and student/athletes alike.  I know my son was offered many, "aids packages," but no academic scholarships. 

Private DIII schools offer "merit" scholarships for both academic and athletic acheavors, but they are all disguised as merit.  The interesting thing about the amount of the merit is that it usually makes the overall cost equal to the public school cost.  At least that was how it worked out for us.  413, we had the same experience.

WHD

[Just Bill]

Private schools don't offer merit scholarships for athletic achievement. That would be an athletic scholarship and we're in D-III. Not saying a public or private school has never fudged the rules, but you're implying that private schools are regularly giving something illegal that public schools don't and that's simply not true. The rules are the same whether you're public or private.

[footballfan413]

Private schools don't offer merit scholarships for athletic achievement. That would be an athletic scholarship and we're in D-III. Not saying a public or private school has never fudged the rules, but you're implying that private schools are regularly giving something illegal that public schools don't and that's simply not true. The rules are the same whether you're public or private.

We know the rules. Bill, and do not mean to imply that private schools are doing anything illegal, more like a loophole, is how I'd best describe it because this, "merit," money is available to all students, as I said above.  Look, I know for a fact that when we went through the recruiting process, there were several coaching staffs that talked about the fact that the published tuition costs of the school would be greatly reduced with academic money, "wink-wink,"  while having no idea what his academic qualifications were. While my son has a 3.98 GPA in his masters program now, his high school GPA and ACT, while fine, hardly qualified him for the various $15K, "merit," scholarship that were offered to him, IMHO, and none of it was need-based.  Private schools do not offer athletic scholarships but they do have huge flexibility in reducing the tuition price tag and, in my personal experience, coaching staffs are not afraid to make that very clear to their athletes.  I remember reading an article a few seasons ago where a HS coach and his player were quoted in a newspaper article about his deciding to attend a private school in the MIAC because, "they are giving him a $40K a year education practically free."  I couldn't believe it was said so blatantly for publication.  Now maybe need-based was part of the equation for this player but come on, a $40K a year education practically free?  Public schools could not compete for that player.  The reason I kicked this dead horse to begin with is that WC11 referred to aid packages as being a marker regarding whether a recruit is actually committing to the school.  Suggests to me that aid packages/new recruits must be a very common occurrence. I simply suggested that we, as a public school, do not enjoy the benefit of that measuring stick.                                                                                                                                         

[badgerwarhawk]

Plenty of WIAC athletes get academic scholarships from their schools (and need based as mentioned) as well. The awards just aren't as big since publics aren't as expensive to begin with.

An academic scholarship is much different than an, "aids package," is it not?  One is based on merit and not nearly as common and the other is offered to many, MANY students and student/athletes alike.  I know my son was offered many, "aids packages," but no academic scholarships. 

Private DIII schools offer "merit" scholarships for both academic and athletic acheavors, but they are all disguised as merit.  The interesting thing about the amount of the merit is that it usually makes the overall cost equal to the public school cost.  At least that was how it worked out for us.  413, we had the same experience.

WHD

That was my personal experience as well.  Also I know of an athlete that was headed our way until a private school found an additional "music" scholarship that lowered his cost below that of ours.  Interestingly the athlete had never taken a music class or been involved in any music related activity in high school and participated in absolutely no musical activities while attending the college.  He was a hell of a baseball player though and the school made the CWS twice while he attended. 

[02 Warhawk]

Plenty of WIAC athletes get academic scholarships from their schools (and need based as mentioned) as well. The awards just aren't as big since publics aren't as expensive to begin with.

An academic scholarship is much different than an, "aids package," is it not?  One is based on merit and not nearly as common and the other is offered to many, MANY students and student/athletes alike.  I know my son was offered many, "aids packages," but no academic scholarships. 

Private DIII schools offer "merit" scholarships for both academic and athletic acheavors, but they are all disguised as merit.  The interesting thing about the amount of the merit is that it usually makes the overall cost equal to the public school cost.  At least that was how it worked out for us.  413, we had the same experience.

WHD

That was my personal experience as well.  Also I know of an athlete that was headed our way until a private school found an additional "music" scholarship that lowered his cost below that of ours.  Interestingly the athlete had never taken a music class or been involved in any music related activity in high school and participated in absolutely no musical activities while attending the college.  He was a hell of a baseball player though and the school made the CWS twice while he attended.

But public schools get the better athletes being that they're SOOO much cheaper and easier to get into, because private schools are so nobel

note the sarcasm

[footballfan413]

Plenty of WIAC athletes get academic scholarships from their schools (and need based as mentioned) as well. The awards just aren't as big since publics aren't as expensive to begin with.

An academic scholarship is much different than an, "aids package," is it not?  One is based on merit and not nearly as common and the other is offered to many, MANY students and student/athletes alike.  I know my son was offered many, "aids packages," but no academic scholarships. 

Private DIII schools offer "merit" scholarships for both academic and athletic acheavors, but they are all disguised as merit.  The interesting thing about the amount of the merit is that it usually makes the overall cost equal to the public school cost.  At least that was how it worked out for us.  413, we had the same experience.

WHD

That was my personal experience as well.  Also I know of an athlete that was headed our way until a private school found an additional "music" scholarship that lowered his cost below that of ours.  Interestingly the athlete had never taken a music class or been involved in any music related activity in high school and participated in absolutely no musical activities while attending the college.  He was a hell of a baseball player though and the school made the CWS twice while he attended.

Wow, that example is wwaayyyy better than any of mine.   

[BoBo]

I remember reading an article a few seasons ago where a HS coach and his player were quoted in a newspaper article about his deciding to attend a private school in the MIAC because, "they are giving him a $40K a year education practically free."  I couldn't believe it was said so blatantly for publication.     

I read that through a link on this website, too. It was the St. Thomas QB Dakota Tracy, if my memory serves...

[footballfan413]

I remember reading an article a few seasons ago where a HS coach and his player were quoted in a newspaper article about his deciding to attend a private school in the MIAC because, "they are giving him a $40K a year education practically free."  I couldn't believe it was said so blatantly for publication.     

I read that through a link on this website, too. It was the St. Thomas QB Dakota Tracy, if my memory serves...

LOL, you are not very discreet, are you, BoBo.  I was being diplomatic with mild finger pointing.....................
   BTW, I posted the link.   

[BoBo]

I remember reading an article a few seasons ago where a HS coach and his player were quoted in a newspaper article about his deciding to attend a private school in the MIAC because, "they are giving him a $40K a year education practically free."  I couldn't believe it was said so blatantly for publication.     

I read that through a link on this website, too. It was the St. Thomas QB Dakota Tracy, if my memory serves...

LOL, you are not very discreet, are you, BoBo.  I was being diplomatic with mild finger pointing.....................
   BTW, I posted the link.   

Like a deceased sports journalist used to do it, I'm just telling it like it is.    I feel fortunate the 70 year old brain in my noggin can remember such needless facts!!

[Pat Coleman]

If the school gives out aid to non-athletes as well, that's fine. If they give more (more than 4% more) to athletes, they will get caught by the NCAA.

http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2012/06/une-sanctioned-for-aid-violations

[02 Warhawk]

Chicago Bears ‏@ChicagoBears
LM: After concluding three-day minicamp, #Bears waive second-year QB Nathan Enderle.

Good news for Blanchard.....in a way I guess.

[Pat Coleman]

More than in a way -- that's good news for sure.

[footballfan413]

Chicago Bears ‏@ChicagoBears
LM: After concluding three-day minicamp, #Bears waive second-year QB Nathan Enderle.

Good news for Blanchard.....in a way I guess.

That is GREAT news!  One of my favorite quotes comes to mind.  "He who endures, conquers!" 

[02 Warhawk]

Zach Zaidman ‏@ZachZaidman
#Bears currently have 4 QBs on their roster: Jay Cutler, Jason Campbell, Josh McCown and Matt Blanchard, who made team after tryout in May.

Brad Biggs ‏@BradBiggs
By waiving QB Nathan Enderle, #Bears give Matt Blanchard from Wis-Whitewater potential shot at practice squad job http://trib.in/Mu5iwP

From Briggs' article:

Enderle was cut loose giving Matt Blanchard, the undrafted rookie free agent from Wisconsin-Whitewater, an opportunity to be the fourth quarterback in training camp. Blanchard will not challenge veteran Josh McCown for the No. 3 job on the roster, but a strong showing could lead the Bears to consider a role for him on the eight-man practice squad.

[badgerwarhawk]

Keep it going Matt!!