FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[emma17]

Anyone happen to see Buffalo State beat another ranked team today?  They knocked off #25 St. John's Fischer 17-9.

Like I've been saying.....

SJF is overrated? Or Buff State is sort of able to beat average teams?

No comment on whether SJF is overrated, I've no idea.  What I do know is that Buff state beat the #19 team that has a 7-1 record and they beat 3 teams that have 6-3 records.  I also know their only losses have come to teams with winning records.  They have shown they have the ability to beat nearly every team they've played, and to me, that's the mark of a pretty good football team.   

[retagent]

I like to think that I'm just keeping the reins on when the horse starts to get away from me.

[02 Warhawk]

Without looking at SOS, the following results would improve UWP's chances of getting a Pool C bid on Sunday:

- Huntingdon to lose to Adrian
- Cal Lutheran to beat Chapman
- Pacific Lutheran to lose to Menlo
- Ohio Wesleyan or Wittenberg to lose (However, it would be even better if they both lose).
- Bridgewater to lose to Mass Maritime
- Wheaton* to lose to North Park - not going to happen
- Elmhurst to lose to Ill Wesleyan
- Baldwin-Wallace to beat Heidelberg
- Widener to beat Delware Valley
- Bethel* to lose to St. Johns
- Concordia-Moorhead to lose to Gustavus Adolphus
- Carroll to beat Illinois College
- And, of course, don't let Point win 

The more of these to occur this weekend, the better for Pioneer Pete.

*I think Bethel and Wheaton are currently the only two-loss teams that challenges UWP for a Pool C bid. So all the better if they lose.

[D O.C.]

+ from me 02. I only understand the AQ.

[Pat Coleman]

*I think Bethel and Wheaton are currently the only two-loss teams that challenges UWP for a Pool C bid. So all the better if they lose.

I believe Pacific Lutheran, Concordia-Moorhead and Bethel will all be ahead of UWP for a Pool C bid in the West Region alone if all four teams win out.

[02 Warhawk]

+ from me 02. I only understand the AQ.

That's understandable coming from a Linfield fan. The only other fans that probably have less knowledge about Pool C is Mount Union fans.

(yes, that's a compliment to both programs)

[emma17]

+ from me 02. I only understand the AQ.

That's understandable coming from a Linfield fan. The only other fans that probably have less knowledge about Pool C is Mount Union fans.

(yes, that's a compliment to both programs)

I've had enough of this unrestrained success from Linfield and Mt- surely there must be a way to add burden to their programs to make it fair for all others. 

[WarhawkDad]

I think UWP is most liking the Oshkosh of next year they lose two offensive linemen who were hurt all year, one receiver and they get Anderson and Vlask back due to medical redshirts. One defense they lose 5 starters and  3 all conference players in snyder, mcwethy, and marks so that should hurt a little bit more. But they only have 12 seniors on there roster as it is so they are young still. Also how does everyone feel about UWP's chances for get an at large bid? They got some help this weekend and they are the 2nd place team in the best conference in the nation. Would be nice to get 2 WIAC schools in and they are rolling now it seems like.

I heard Kelly will be back also.  Should be an interesting battle for the starting QB spot w/ arguably the 3 top passers in the conference.

I hear that one might transfer to UWW.     

[D O.C.]

Unfortunately, unlike Mt. Ringdom, we still have the taste of 3 consecutive 6-3 sessions down our  gullet.

[TheOleGunSlinger004]

So, lets assume the season is over and a the 2012 Stagg Bowl Champion is crowned.   What happens to the WIAC next year.   How do you think the top 4 or 5 will rank out in 2013.   At least for me, preseason, pre-recruiting, based solely on who is coming back.  it is this way.

UWP
UWW
UWO
UWL - if everyone gets healthy
UWSP
UWE
UWRF
UWS

I am sorry, but after reading these boards for a long time, including this preseason, I am very confused why UWO would not be expected to be a favorite for the 2013 WIAC championship.  They return the bulk of their skill players and, although they lose Wara (who is one of the top players in all of D3), they will still be very talented.  This offense is downright potent and they do have veteran QB's who will be ready next year to take the torch.  I just do not see UWO being a one-hit wonder like many claim them to be.  Yes, their defense will need some players to step up, that is a fact, but strong programs begin to develop depth, much like UWW has done the past decade.  In my opinion, UWO is becoming a strong program and I have seen it develop over the last 2-3 years.  This program is not built to last for one year and one hope at a championship.  This is a true program that will be a competitor for years into the future.  In the past, many have stated that no one can put a team above UWW because they are the reigning WIAC champions.  Well, they no longer are and I would expect some of the same words to be spoken next preseason about UWO as they will be the reigning WIAC champs and potentially national champions.  Just a thought from me!

[02 Warhawk]

You could very well be right. We'll have to wait and see.

If u remember, Stevens Point had a good thing going in 2008 when they won the WIAC. Here they are, four years later, at the bottom of the conference. I'm not saying Oshkosh will suffer the same fate. Nothing is guaranteed.

Next year should be interesting.

[emma17]

Welcome back around Gunslinger. I don't think anybody is discrediting UWO- it's more about how talented we all agree Wara is. He is a massive part of the UWO offense.
As the WIAC has learned again with likely only one team making the playoffs, a strong UWO and other teams is important for playoff consideration. UWP is good enough to challenge many of the playoff teams but they won't get in based on strength of schedule, i.e. opponents winning percentage.  I hope for a strong UWO and other teams for the good of the conference.
Let's face it, if UWW had beaten UWSP they would likely not have made the playoffs due to opponents winning percentage.

[TheOleGunSlinger004]

I think we can all agree that it is a travishamockery that the WIAC gets discredited for consistently having 2-3 teams that could win 1+ playoff games each year.  As a big Titan fan, I am very anxious and excited about the next few weeks as UWO enters the playoffs for the first time.  In relation to UWSP in 2008, the the 2012 Titans have been somewhat dominant throughout the season and have made a statement that they have been preparing to make for a few years now.  I can't predict the future, but I can say that the culture has changed at UWO.  It is no longer, "hey, we can compete with these guys."  It is now, "we are a good team, there is no reason we should not be a national contender."  My hope is that this (hopefully) undefeated regular season and (hopefully) deep run into the playoffs will catapult Oshkosh into a place where top tier athletes want to come to.  UWW has been dominant on this front the past decade, maybe it's time for some competition come off-season. 

For those wondering about the "travishamockery" quote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9-huLRWFRQ

[number1fan]

Its a shame that the WIAC is such a brutal conference look at the top three teams in the conference and I feel they could compete with any team in the country. The WIAC needs to get rid of the conference teams playing each other for non conference, that hurts our team records and in turn brings our strength of schudule down. And the NCAA comittee needs to see that Eau Claire a 3-3 team in conference and 3-6 overall barely lost to St. Thomas a pontential 1 seed while Oshkosh beat them 50-13 UWP beat them 49-19 and 24-17 and UWW beat them 19-10 and the same can be said for La-crosse over North Central. But, should won doesn't cut it, I think it will be a awful if UWP possibly a top ten team in the rankings(even though the rankings don't matter to the NCAA) does not make the playoffs.

[retagent]

Believe it or not, the WIAC is not the only conference where this is the case.