FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[footballfan413]

...and, a zebra can't change its spots.

Oh crap, you got me, retagent.  Of course, it would be you!      I should have said that a leopard can't change his stripes  SPOTS! 

[02 Warhawk]

Hey 02, 
What do you think about the point spread on the Pick'em OAC  for MT.U & UMHB?   IT's pretty hard to beat the same team twice By 10 + , but if anyone can do it UMHB can.. Now the 24 for Widener.. AT the Quarters is that saying We still have a cup-cake or MT U is that good ?  (BALANCED )    ?

I don't have a problem with the spreads that mr_mom created. They seem about right I suppose.

Mount Union will always have a cupcake in their region as long as they stay in the East each year. They never get tested till the semi's

Do you mean an eastern cupcake like Buff State?

Yes...exactly

Playoff teams would have no problem with teams like Buff State.

[oshfb]

Hey 02, 
What do you think about the point spread on the Pick'em OAC  for MT.U & UMHB?   IT's pretty hard to beat the same team twice By 10 + , but if anyone can do it UMHB can.. Now the 24 for Widener.. AT the Quarters is that saying We still have a cup-cake or MT U is that good ?  (BALANCED )    ?

I don't have a problem with the spreads that mr_mom created. They seem about right I suppose.

Mount Union will always have a cupcake in their region as long as they stay in the East each year. They never get tested till the semi's

Do you mean an eastern cupcake like Buff State?

OH SNAP! 

[emma17]

Hey 02, 
What do you think about the point spread on the Pick'em OAC  for MT.U & UMHB?   IT's pretty hard to beat the same team twice By 10 + , but if anyone can do it UMHB can.. Now the 24 for Widener.. AT the Quarters is that saying We still have a cup-cake or MT U is that good ?  (BALANCED )    ?

I don't have a problem with the spreads that mr_mom created. They seem about right I suppose.

Mount Union will always have a cupcake in their region as long as they stay in the East each year. They never get tested till the semi's

Do you mean an eastern cupcake like Buff State?

The only importance of the Buff State game in this conversation is that the UWW D held them to 7 points- on a desperation last drive. UWO did score 28 vs UWW (although aided by the UWW offense a bit).  In my opinion the UWW defense is one of the best in the country, so it's at least a good indication that UWO has what it takes to move the ball and score against good defenses, which of course Linfield certainly has.

[02 Warhawk]

Hey 02, 
What do you think about the point spread on the Pick'em OAC  for MT.U & UMHB?   IT's pretty hard to beat the same team twice By 10 + , but if anyone can do it UMHB can.. Now the 24 for Widener.. AT the Quarters is that saying We still have a cup-cake or MT U is that good ?  (BALANCED )    ?

I don't have a problem with the spreads that mr_mom created. They seem about right I suppose.

Mount Union will always have a cupcake in their region as long as they stay in the East each year. They never get tested till the semi's

Do you mean an eastern cupcake like Buff State?

The only importance of the Buff State game in this conversation is that the UWW D held them to 7 points- on a desperation last drive. UWO did score 28 vs UWW (although aided by the UWW offense a bit).  In my opinion the UWW defense is one of the best in the country, so it's at least a good indication that UWO has what it takes to move the ball and score against good defenses, which of course Linfield certainly has.

I'm writing my Linfield/Oshkosh story for my blog right now....wait till you see some of these defensive stats for Linfield. Unreal!

[cawcdad]

well we know how good your D is and you gave them 28 too?  So it will be a good game with both O"s  POA  goin at it all day..  The D's will be dizzieeeee 
tring to keep up? 
no snow scheduled    maybe just a little rain.. 

I wonder if this will be the high scoring game some are expecting.  A case can be made that perhaps play calling will get a bit more conservative to prevent mistakes.  Linfield benefitted greatly from NCC trying to throw so much (still can't figure that out). If UWO finds success in their ground game, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't put the ball in the air so much.  Granted, I think Wara is a better passer, but Linfield does a really good job in pass coverage and rushing the passer.   

You have touched here on the key to the game from Linfield's perspective.  They have to have some success on early downs in stopping UW-O's ground game.  Linfield also has to run the ball, at least a little bit.  They certainly have to run it better than they did against NCC.  If neither of these things happen, they are going to put a lot of pressure on Inns and the passing game to bail them out. He still may be able to do it, but as 413 always says, balance is huge at this time of year.

UW-O has to find a way to stop/slow down Linfield's passing game.  Offensively, they have to find a way to protect Wara.  Linfield has 60 sacks this year, which is a crazy number! Even Mount, who hasn't played a competitive game all year has "only" 35 sacks. 

The two wildcards I see in looking at these teams are:

1. Wara hurting Linfield by pulling the ball down and taking off on passing plays. I haven't seen enough of Linfield to know how disciplined they have been in getting all those sacks.
2. Linfield taking care of the football.  They have fumbled 24 times this year (losing 15).  That's too many fumbles.

Great perspective, BP.  Only thing I would add is............

Balance is HUGE at this time of year.   

[/b]


I think we all know that...   BUT    We have to dance with the one the Brung US too boys ..

Oh, of course, a leopard can't change his stripes, especially, in week 13 of the season, but, the team that can do both sufficiently will have a better chance of playing on the 8th, IMHO. 

UW-O   
Passing yards per game             236.9
Rushing yards per game            232.4

Linfield
Passing yards per game             317.5
Rushing yards per game             132.6

I am not making a case for the Titans necessarily, I go back and forth everyday trying to decide who I will pick to win, just making an observation.  The other thing I always say............DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS!   

2004 Linfield offense averages:
Rushing Average Per Game............        135.1
Passing Average Per Game............        375.8 

NATIONAL CHAMPIONS!!!!

[02 Warhawk]

Well played.

[MonroviaCat]

well we know how good your D is and you gave them 28 too?  So it will be a good game with both O"s  POA  goin at it all day..  The D's will be dizzieeeee 
tring to keep up? 
no snow scheduled    maybe just a little rain.. 

I wonder if this will be the high scoring game some are expecting.  A case can be made that perhaps play calling will get a bit more conservative to prevent mistakes.  Linfield benefitted greatly from NCC trying to throw so much (still can't figure that out). If UWO finds success in their ground game, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't put the ball in the air so much.  Granted, I think Wara is a better passer, but Linfield does a really good job in pass coverage and rushing the passer.   

You have touched here on the key to the game from Linfield's perspective.  They have to have some success on early downs in stopping UW-O's ground game.  Linfield also has to run the ball, at least a little bit.  They certainly have to run it better than they did against NCC.  If neither of these things happen, they are going to put a lot of pressure on Inns and the passing game to bail them out. He still may be able to do it, but as 413 always says, balance is huge at this time of year.

UW-O has to find a way to stop/slow down Linfield's passing game.  Offensively, they have to find a way to protect Wara.  Linfield has 60 sacks this year, which is a crazy number! Even Mount, who hasn't played a competitive game all year has "only" 35 sacks. 

The two wildcards I see in looking at these teams are:

1. Wara hurting Linfield by pulling the ball down and taking off on passing plays. I haven't seen enough of Linfield to know how disciplined they have been in getting all those sacks.
2. Linfield taking care of the football.  They have fumbled 24 times this year (losing 15).  That's too many fumbles.

Great perspective, BP.  Only thing I would add is............

Balance is HUGE at this time of year.   

[/b]


I think we all know that...   BUT    We have to dance with the one the Brung US too boys ..

Oh, of course, a leopard can't change his stripes, especially, in week 13 of the season, but, the team that can do both sufficiently will have a better chance of playing on the 8th, IMHO. 

UW-O   
Passing yards per game             236.9
Rushing yards per game            232.4

Linfield
Passing yards per game             317.5
Rushing yards per game             132.6

I am not making a case for the Titans necessarily, I go back and forth everyday trying to decide who I will pick to win, just making an observation.  The other thing I always say............DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS!   

2004 Linfield offense averages:
Rushing Average Per Game............        135.1
Passing Average Per Game............        375.8 

NATIONAL CHAMPIONS!!!!

And the defensive stats on 2004 team were not as impressive as this years team:

only 13 sacks.  gave up 19.7 points per game and 358 yds/game....of course the the offense on that team scored 50 pts/game....

[footballfan413]

Hey 02, 
What do you think about the point spread on the Pick'em OAC  for MT.U & UMHB?   IT's pretty hard to beat the same team twice By 10 + , but if anyone can do it UMHB can.. Now the 24 for Widener.. AT the Quarters is that saying We still have a cup-cake or MT U is that good ?  (BALANCED )    ?

I don't have a problem with the spreads that mr_mom created. They seem about right I suppose.

Mount Union will always have a cupcake in their region as long as they stay in the East each year. They never get tested till the semi's

Do you mean an eastern cupcake like Buff State?

There is a really big difference between one preseason game against a cupcake, (that we failed to feast on which was our first red flag as to how this season would go I might add, who finished in the middle of a their conference and whose AQ handed in their cleats on Monday,) and a bracket full of them.   

You didn't mean to imply that the East bracket is not the easiest run up to the Stagg Bowl that a team like UMU could hope for, right. PS? 

[footballfan413]

well we know how good your D is and you gave them 28 too?  So it will be a good game with both O"s  POA  goin at it all day..  The D's will be dizzieeeee 
tring to keep up? 
no snow scheduled    maybe just a little rain.. 

I wonder if this will be the high scoring game some are expecting.  A case can be made that perhaps play calling will get a bit more conservative to prevent mistakes.  Linfield benefitted greatly from NCC trying to throw so much (still can't figure that out). If UWO finds success in their ground game, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't put the ball in the air so much.  Granted, I think Wara is a better passer, but Linfield does a really good job in pass coverage and rushing the passer.   

You have touched here on the key to the game from Linfield's perspective.  They have to have some success on early downs in stopping UW-O's ground game.  Linfield also has to run the ball, at least a little bit.  They certainly have to run it better than they did against NCC.  If neither of these things happen, they are going to put a lot of pressure on Inns and the passing game to bail them out. He still may be able to do it, but as 413 always says, balance is huge at this time of year.

UW-O has to find a way to stop/slow down Linfield's passing game.  Offensively, they have to find a way to protect Wara.  Linfield has 60 sacks this year, which is a crazy number! Even Mount, who hasn't played a competitive game all year has "only" 35 sacks. 

The two wildcards I see in looking at these teams are:

1. Wara hurting Linfield by pulling the ball down and taking off on passing plays. I haven't seen enough of Linfield to know how disciplined they have been in getting all those sacks.
2. Linfield taking care of the football.  They have fumbled 24 times this year (losing 15).  That's too many fumbles.

Great perspective, BP.  Only thing I would add is............

Balance is HUGE at this time of year.   

[/b]


I think we all know that...   BUT    We have to dance with the one the Brung US too boys ..

Oh, of course, a leopard can't change his stripes, especially, in week 13 of the season, but, the team that can do both sufficiently will have a better chance of playing on the 8th, IMHO. 

UW-O   
Passing yards per game             236.9
Rushing yards per game            232.4

Linfield
Passing yards per game             317.5
Rushing yards per game             132.6

I am not making a case for the Titans necessarily, I go back and forth everyday trying to decide who I will pick to win, just making an observation.  The other thing I always say............DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS!   

2004 Linfield offense averages:
Rushing Average Per Game............        135.1
Passing Average Per Game............        375.8 

NATIONAL CHAMPIONS!!!!

Um.........Brett Elliot was throwing for those yards.  And having seen the man work his magic in person, that is no small detail, IMHO.   

[02 Warhawk]

only 13 sacks.  gave up 19.7 points per game and 358 yds/game....of course the the offense on that team scored 50 pts/game....

The D1 quarterback Gagliardi Trophy winner certainly helped....which I don't think the 2012 team has

[MonroviaCat]

only 13 sacks.  gave up 19.7 points per game and 358 yds/game....of course the the offense on that team scored 50 pts/game....

The D1 quarterback Gagliardi Trophy winner certainly helped....which I don't think the 2012 team has

well, there is that....  (though Mickey has been solid)

[PurpleSuit]

Hey 02, 
What do you think about the point spread on the Pick'em OAC  for MT.U & UMHB?   IT's pretty hard to beat the same team twice By 10 + , but if anyone can do it UMHB can.. Now the 24 for Widener.. AT the Quarters is that saying We still have a cup-cake or MT U is that good ?  (BALANCED )    ?

I don't have a problem with the spreads that mr_mom created. They seem about right I suppose.

Mount Union will always have a cupcake in their region as long as they stay in the East each year. They never get tested till the semi's

Do you mean an eastern cupcake like Buff State?

There is a really big difference between one preseason game against a cupcake, (that we failed to feast on which was our first red flag as to how this season would go I might add, who finished in the middle of a their conference and whose AQ handed in their cleats on Monday,) and a bracket full of them.   

You didn't mean to imply that the East bracket is not the easiest run up to the Stagg Bowl that a team like UMU could hope for, right. PS?

I think that if you asked Kehres, he would prefer to have a bit tougher region to prepare for the semi-finals and Stagg Bowl.  If the East could produce a team worthy of a 1 seed, I'm sure Mount would much prefer to stay in the North.  But lets not pretend that the East is the only "easy" bracket.  There are a handful of legit teams and they will eventually all have to play each other.  All the other teams are interchangeable, imo.  If any team would have a reason to complain it would be UMHB having to go through Wesley and Mount just to reach the Stagg Bowl, not some one year flash in the pan from the WIAC.

[footballfan413]

Hey 02, 
What do you think about the point spread on the Pick'em OAC  for MT.U & UMHB?   IT's pretty hard to beat the same team twice By 10 + , but if anyone can do it UMHB can.. Now the 24 for Widener.. AT the Quarters is that saying We still have a cup-cake or MT U is that good ?  (BALANCED )    ?

I don't have a problem with the spreads that mr_mom created. They seem about right I suppose.

Mount Union will always have a cupcake in their region as long as they stay in the East each year. They never get tested till the semi's

Do you mean an eastern cupcake like Buff State?

There is a really big difference between one preseason game against a cupcake, (that we failed to feast on which was our first red flag as to how this season would go I might add, who finished in the middle of a their conference and whose AQ handed in their cleats on Monday,) and a bracket full of them.   

You didn't mean to imply that the East bracket is not the easiest run up to the Stagg Bowl that a team like UMU could hope for, right. PS?

I think that if you asked Kehres, he would prefer to have a bit tougher region to prepare for the semi-finals and Stagg Bowl.  If the East could produce a team worthy of a 1 seed, I'm sure Mount would much prefer to stay in the North.  But lets not pretend that the East is the only "easy" bracket.  There are a handful of legit teams and they will eventually all have to play each other.  All the other teams are interchangeable, imo.  If any team would have a reason to complain it would be UMHB having to go through Wesley and Mount just to reach the Stagg Bowl, not some one year flash in the pan from the WIAC.

Well, that makes it official!  The Titans have certainly arrived!  They have just been insulted by a Mount Union fan.   

It is, most certainly, the easiest one.   

[skunks_sidekick]

Now Purple Suit......there you go again!   

I for one am really happy that the Mount folks are able to use their influence to "fix" the tournament bracket every year.  I mean really.....just because they have been either #1 or #2 for the last seven years is NO reason to think they would be a top seed in the tournament, and therefore get home games throughout earlier rounds.  Just because their only losses in the last 7 years have come at the hands of UWW in the Stagg Bowl, doesn't mean they shouldn't have to fly to CLU, or PLU, or whatever outpost anyone wants to send them.  I mean obviously the fix is in...........