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NCF · August 19, 2013, 01:00:07 PM

^02, Are you making the trip to Lacrosse for the game against North Central?

02 Warhawk · August 19, 2013, 03:29:41 PM

Quote from: NCF on August 19, 2013, 01:00:07 PM
^02, Are you making the trip to Lacrosse for the game against North Central?

Unfortanately I already have plans on the 14th. But I was lucky enough to attend last year's game in Naperville.

AndOne · August 19, 2013, 05:40:18 PM

MATT BLANCHARD

Under current NFL rules there appears to be 3 possibilities with regard to Blanchard's pro future---at least with the Bears. The various possibilities are clouded by the fact that its really too soon to tell exactly how long he will be out. In any event, with the import of 2 veteran QBs to compete for the 3rd QB position, it appears unlikely Matt will be carried on the final-53 man roster. As such, it appears the eventual outcome be one of these 3 most likely possibilities:

1. Placement on the injured reserve list. This would protect the Bears rights to him for another season.
2. Work out an injury settlement, and release him.
3. Make an injury settlement, and then re-sign him to the practice squad when he is ready to play.

* Personally, I'd like to see #3 happen and enable him to get some work in later this season. Then next season he can start fresh and gain the #2 position behind Cutler.
* I know some of you regular posters here, and especially you UWW fans feel he should/can/will eventually beat out Cutler and become #1, but realistically this ain't gonna happen---not next year anyway. But after that?

emma17 · August 19, 2013, 06:18:21 PM

Quote from: AndOne on August 19, 2013, 05:40:18 PM
MATT BLANCHARD

Under current NFL rules there appears to be 3 possibilities with regard to Blanchard's pro future---at least with the Bears. The various possibilities are clouded by the fact that its really too soon to tell exactly how long he will be out. In any event, with the import of 2 veteran QBs to compete for the 3rd QB position, it appears unlikely Matt will be carried on the final-53 man roster. As such, it appears the eventual outcome be one of these 3 most likely possibilities:

1. Placement on the injured reserve list. This would protect the Bears rights to him for another season.
2. Work out an injury settlement, and release him.
3. Make an injury settlement, and then re-sign him to the practice squad when he is ready to play.

* Personally, I'd like to see #3 happen and enable him to get some work in later this season. Then next season he can start fresh and gain the #2 position behind Cutler.
* I know some of you regular posters here, and especially you UWW fans feel he should/can/will eventually beat out Cutler and become #1, but realistically this ain't gonna happen---not next year anyway. But after that?

Good info AndOne - thanks.
If the Bears go w 3 QBs on roster (not Matt)- what are the financial consequences if they cut the #3 if they wanted to bring Matt back when healthy?

AndOne · August 19, 2013, 08:38:02 PM

Emma--

I have written to a Bears source. Not sure if he will have much info on the financial angle, but worth a shot. Will let u know if I learn anything.

retagent · August 20, 2013, 09:25:18 AM

My question, at least for the last two years, is: Why do the Bears keep McCown? Blanchard (IMHO) has played better than McCown, has more upside, is cheaper to keep, and McCown will, in all likelihood, not get better than he is now.

That doesn't even mean that Matt should be #2, but, I would think the Bears could get a better backup than McCown, at lower cost, and groom Blanchard to be backup. I think he has shown eneough in his Pre-season (and if you can believe Berman - maybe not a good bet) in prsctice to be capable.

badgerwarhawk · August 20, 2013, 09:45:41 AM

WARHAWKS add position coach:

Wisconsin-Whitewater (D-III): Craig Harmon has been hired to coach the tight ends. Harmon spent the last three seasons as the tight ends coach at Georgia State, and has also previously served as the offensive coordinator at St. Francis (NAIA - IL) and as a grad assistant at NIU.

emma17 · August 20, 2013, 11:21:45 AM

Quote from: retagent on August 20, 2013, 09:25:18 AM
My question, at least for the last two years, is: Why do the Bears keep McCown? Blanchard (IMHO) has played better than McCown, has more upside, is cheaper to keep, and McCown will, in all likelihood, not get better than he is now.

That doesn't even mean that Matt should be #2, but, I would think the Bears could get a better backup than McCown, at lower cost, and groom Blanchard to be backup. I think he has shown eneough in his Pre-season (and if you can believe Berman - maybe not a good bet) in prsctice to be capable.

IMO they keep McCown not because of upside, but because he has less downside.
He has NFL experience, apparently has a high football IQ and as such, a coach knows more or less what to expect from him. I think the pecking order on QB type is: #1 guy is a playmaker w certain NFL skills. #2 is a game manager. We saw an example of a mis-cast backup QB last year in Campbell. #3 guy is development guy that has shown things the coaches see as promising for possible #1 down the road and at worst a #2 guy.
As a Bears' fan I'm very comfortable w McCown as backup. That's not to say I wouldn't love to see Matt at #2 at some point this season- but that would come if something went wrong w Cutler And if the offense under the Game Manager #2 guy wasn't producing enough. That's where I see Matt getting his break.

ScreamingEagles · August 20, 2013, 06:10:15 PM

A couple pre-season articles regarding UWL:

"For UW-L football, it all starts with intensity and efficiency"
http://lacrossetribune.com/sports/college/for-uw-l-football-it-all-starts-with-intensity-and/article_2e77ec12-07a1-11e3-891b-001a4bcf887a.html

"Hertrampf happy to be back on field for Eagles"
http://lacrossetribune.com/sports/college/hertrampf-happy-to-be-back-on-field-for-eagles/article_f97c458a-0886-11e3-9f2f-0019bb2963f4.html

retagent · August 20, 2013, 07:05:10 PM

Quote from: emma17 on August 20, 2013, 11:21:45 AM
Quote from: retagent on August 20, 2013, 09:25:18 AM
My question, at least for the last two years, is: Why do the Bears keep McCown? Blanchard (IMHO) has played better than McCown, has more upside, is cheaper to keep, and McCown will, in all likelihood, not get better than he is now.

That doesn't even mean that Matt should be #2, but, I would think the Bears could get a better backup than McCown, at lower cost, and groom Blanchard to be backup. I think he has shown eneough in his Pre-season (and if you can believe Berman - maybe not a good bet) in prsctice to be capable.

IMO they keep McCown not because of upside, but because he has less downside.
He has NFL experience, apparently has a high football IQ and as such, a coach knows more or less what to expect from him. I think the pecking order on QB type is: #1 guy is a playmaker w certain NFL skills. #2 is a game manager. We saw an example of a mis-cast backup QB last year in Campbell. #3 guy is development guy that has shown things the coaches see as promising for possible #1 down the road and at worst a #2 guy.
As a Bears' fan I'm very comfortable w McCown as backup. That's not to say I wouldn't love to see Matt at #2 at some point this season- but that would come if something went wrong w Cutler And if the offense under the Game Manager #2 guy wasn't producing enough. That's where I see Matt getting his break.

Reasonable explanation. I just see teams, not only the Bears, get in trouble because they don't utilize good young players, who then, often leave, and help another team. Then the veterans retire, and they're left with a big hole in their lineup.

WarhawkDad · August 21, 2013, 11:47:25 AM

Hey Voice

Is old number 65 working as hard as a student assistant as he says he is???

He is really excited about some of the freshmen.

Badgerwarhawk...have you attended any of the practices yet....what are you seeing?

WarhawkDad

voice · August 21, 2013, 12:08:17 PM

Quote from: WarhawkDad on August 21, 2013, 11:47:25 AM
Hey Voice

Is old number 65 working as hard as a student assistant as he says he is??? He is really excited about some of the freshmen.

Badgerwarhawk...have you attended any of the practices yet....what are you seeing?

WarhawkDad

WarhawkDad

No. 65 looks like he still wants to play!! Pretty impressive with that hair cut.
I've always said GAs work harder than the slaves did building the pyramids!!

Seriously, he and the other GAs are doing a great job especially considering all the new coaches on staff.

btw... when I can find all the GAs in there office at the same time I want to snap a photo and get it up on my Website - they deserve it!

WarhawkDad · August 21, 2013, 03:53:46 PM

Quote from: retagent on August 20, 2013, 07:05:10 PM
Quote from: emma17 on August 20, 2013, 11:21:45 AM
Quote from: retagent on August 20, 2013, 09:25:18 AM
My question, at least for the last two years, is: Why do the Bears keep McCown? Blanchard (IMHO) has played better than McCown, has more upside, is cheaper to keep, and McCown will, in all likelihood, not get better than he is now.

That doesn't even mean that Matt should be #2, but, I would think the Bears could get a better backup than McCown, at lower cost, and groom Blanchard to be backup. I think he has shown eneough in his Pre-season (and if you can believe Berman - maybe not a good bet) in prsctice to be capable.

IMO they keep McCown not because of upside, but because he has less downside.
He has NFL experience, apparently has a high football IQ and as such, a coach knows more or less what to expect from him. I think the pecking order on QB type is: #1 guy is a playmaker w certain NFL skills. #2 is a game manager. We saw an example of a mis-cast backup QB last year in Campbell. #3 guy is development guy that has shown things the coaches see as promising for possible #1 down the road and at worst a #2 guy.
As a Bears' fan I'm very comfortable w McCown as backup. That's not to say I wouldn't love to see Matt at #2 at some point this season- but that would come if something went wrong w Cutler And if the offense under the Game Manager #2 guy wasn't producing enough. That's where I see Matt getting his break.
Quote from: emma17 on August 20, 2013, 11:21:45 AM
Quote from: retagent on August 20, 2013, 09:25:18 AM
My question, at least for the last two years, is: Why do the Bears keep McCown? Blanchard (IMHO) has played better than McCown, has more upside, is cheaper to keep, and McCown will, in all likelihood, not get better than he is now.

That doesn't even mean that Matt should be #2, but, I would think the Bears could get a better backup than McCown, at lower cost, and groom Blanchard to be backup. I think he has shown eneough in his Pre-season (and if you can believe Berman - maybe not a good bet) in prsctice to be capable.

IMO they keep McCown not because of upside, but because he has less downside.
He has NFL experience, apparently has a high football IQ and as such, a coach knows more or less what to expect from him. I think the pecking order on QB type is: #1 guy is a playmaker w certain NFL skills. #2 is a game manager. We saw an example of a mis-cast backup QB last year in Campbell. #3 guy is development guy that has shown things the coaches see as promising for possible #1 down the road and at worst a #2 guy.
As a Bears' fan I'm very comfortable w McCown as backup. That's not to say I wouldn't love to see Matt at #2 at some point this season- but that would come if something went wrong w Cutler And if the offense under the Game Manager #2 guy wasn't producing enough. That's where I see Matt getting his break.

Reasonable explanation. I just see teams, not only the Bears, get in trouble because they don't utilize good young players, who then, often leave, and help another team. Then the veterans retire, and they're left with a big hole in their lineup.

As a Bears fan, I know I can count on the Bears to typically be cheap in their approach to 2nd and 3rd string skill positions. That is why McCown was cut last year (along with the fact that Matt performed in pre-season)and they put Matt on the practice squad. McCown's salary hit would have been too much. But when Cutler got injured they brought McCown back and put Matt on waivers.

I have to believe that with 5 qbs in camp now that it very well could come down to the same thing. The biggest variable is how long will it take for Matt's knuckle to heal. I get the impression that they like his development and think he could do well with more time and experience. I believe they will try to find a way to keep him.

WHD

widairyair · August 22, 2013, 10:13:59 AM

UWP just released their new uniforms

http://athletics.uwplatt.edu/sports/fball/2013-14/releases/20130821k73lvh

voice · August 22, 2013, 10:47:31 AM

Check out the podcasts of the 2013 UW-Whitewater Training Camp Report. The twice daily two-minute reports produced by Voice can be accessed by clicking on the adjacent link...
http://940wfaw.com/pages/6577869.php