FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[voice]

Some poor composure by the Titans defense today with numerous personal foul penalties throughout the 2nd half. Nice late INT to seal the victory with less than a minute to play.

Offense puts up 465 yards to keep the game in hand. Nick Olla (QB) went 28/39 for 328 yards, 3 TDs and no INTs.

Congratulations to the Titans on their victory this afternoon. It sounds like a good game between two evenly matched teams.

Well Stout did prove that it can play with one of the "Big Three" today on our turf.  Now we will see if we can stay with the "Big Two" on their turf as we play at WW and Platteville in the next 3 weeks.    A very entertaining game today.   Looked like a blowout early at 21-0 but a combination of outstanding Stout playmaking on offense and some very undisciplined Osh play (5 or 6 personal fouls and 16 penalities) made for a very exciting finish.  Stout had the ball and was driving into fg territory when a 2nd and 5 sideline pass was jumped for an interception which sealed the deal.  Oshkosh, I think, is a very outstanding team that did not play very smart today.  Stout is clearly better than last year.  Clayt was very disappointed after the game and made the point that he just wanted so badly for his kids to experience some success against one of the big guys.  Look forward to seeing Gary, BW, and the WW guys next week.  Gary, I will be doing the game with my HS radio partner as Jason has a birthday this week and is choosing to celebrate elsewhere.

Stoutguy...

Thanks for your comments on Stouts great effort against Oshkosh. I'm sure the Titans took a collective sigh of relief after escaping Menomonie with a win. I'll be just another one of the WW guys that will stop by the booth to say hi on Saturday.

[stoutguy]

Voice
I think you know that you are welcome in our booth anytime.  Also, I should mention to Badgerwarhawk that at no time during the game, no matter what the score is, will I be saying, "Take that, Whitewater"!

[badgerwarhawk]

LOL

We were following the Osh/Stout game on live stats while on the drive back from LaCrosse. 

I'll bring you and your associates something to drink, SG.   

[palum]

Platteville dominated the stats game but kept letting EC stay in the game with mistakes and penalties.  The Pioneers had a TD called back because the reciever stepped on the endline and was the first to touch the ball, they then missed a chip shot FG.  Platteville then fumbled inside the ten.  Right before halftime Platteville muffed a punt and EC had the ball on the 19 yard line.  Platteville pushed them back past the 30 and on 3rd down a roughing the passer penalty put EC back in business to take a 20-14 lead at the half.  Platteville took the 2nd half kickoff and marched down the field and scored but EC ran the kickoff back 98 yards.  Platteville dominated the game after that.  EC's Sweeney is a load to stop and gave Platteville trouble in the first half.  Platteville's line gave Kelly all day to throw and it showed 32 of 39, 442 yards 7 TDs and no int.  Today showed that Platteville's 3 & 0 on-conference schedule means nothing its WIAC time. 

[thrunt01]

Some poor composure by the Titans defense today with numerous personal foul penalties throughout the 2nd half. Nice late INT to seal the victory with less than a minute to play.

Offense puts up 465 yards to keep the game in hand. Nick Olla (QB) went 28/39 for 328 yards, 3 TDs and no INTs.

Congratulations to the Titans on their victory this afternoon. It sounds like a good game between two evenly matched teams.

Well Stout did prove that it can play with one of the "Big Three" today on our turf.  Now we will see if we can stay with the "Big Two" on their turf as we play at WW and Platteville in the next 3 weeks.    A very entertaining game today.   Looked like a blowout early at 21-0 but a combination of outstanding Stout playmaking on offense and some very undisciplined Osh play (5 or 6 personal fouls and 16 penalities) made for a very exciting finish.  Stout had the ball and was driving into fg territory when a 2nd and 5 sideline pass was jumped for an interception which sealed the deal.  Oshkosh, I think, is a very outstanding team that did not play very smart today.  Stout is clearly better than last year.  Clayt was very disappointed after the game and made the point that he just wanted so badly for his kids to experience some success against one of the big guys.  Look forward to seeing Gary, BW, and the WW guys next week.  Gary, I will be doing the game with my HS radio partner as Jason has a birthday this week and is choosing to celebrate elsewhere.

I think part of why it was so close is the target is on UWO's back for the whole season. Stout players were jacked up, rightfully so, after some key plays. The Titans are going to have to get used to taking a team's best shot week in and week out.

[KitchenSink]

Whitewater - Lacrosse highlights:

http://www.wxow.com/story/23619306/2013/10/05/uw-l-falls-to-seventh-ranked-uw-whitewater

[stoutguy]

LOL

We were following the Osh/Stout game on live stats while on the drive back from LaCrosse. 

I'll bring you and your associates something to drink, SG.

Great! We like alcohol on game day, especially when we are a heavy underdog!

[02 Warhawk]

Whitewater - Lacrosse highlights:

http://www.wxow.com/story/23619306/2013/10/05/uw-l-falls-to-seventh-ranked-uw-whitewater

+k Thanks for posting this, I was hoping to find some highlights.

[Brian R. Carroll]

UWL played WW even for a quarter yesterday, but was unable to stay with the talented Warhawks beyond that. WW took a 17-3 lead late in the 2nd Q, and La Crosse faced a 4th and 2 from the WW 41. My comrades and I felt that Coach Dettwiler should have gone for the 1st down, as momentum was swinging WW's way. We were disappointed with the punt. More disappointing was the second half collapse. Coach Dettwiler feels that the talent on the Eagle squad is equivalent to the top schools in the league, but I don't see it - at least not at the top of the depth chart. He feels that the recruiting has been good and I hope we see the results of this soon. It should be noted that injuries have taken a toll on this team, and that the early schedule has been brutal. I had hoped for 4 conference wins this year, but have my doubts that we'll get them at this rate. Other WIAC teams appear to be improving and should be formidable opponents in the season's second half. We need the 4 wins to match last year's total. I hope the team holds up under the pressure and turns in a strong second half of the season.   

[bleedpurple]

Quick question for those who follow UW-O. What's up with Myhra?  I would have expected more than a 3.7 ypc out of him. banged up? OL issues? It was a bit eye opening that UW-O averaged only 2.9 ypc against Stout when North Central gained 5.1 per carry against them and Dakota Wesleyan averaged 6.1 ypc against them.  Something going on up there?

[02 Warhawk]

Quick question for those who follow UW-O. What's up with Myhra?  I would have expected more than a 3.7 ypc out of him. banged up? OL issues? It was a bit eye opening that UW-O averaged only 2.9 ypc against Stout when North Central gained 5.1 per carry against them and Dakota Wesleyan averaged 6.1 ypc against them.  Something going on up there?

Teams forcing Olla to beat them (which he is) by stacking the line for Myhra? Myhra had 32 carries Saturday, so I don't think he's banged up.

[ScreamingEagles]

UWL played WW even for a quarter yesterday, but was unable to stay with the talented Warhawks beyond that. WW took a 17-3 lead late in the 2nd Q, and La Crosse faced a 4th and 2 from the WW 41. My comrades and I felt that Coach Dettwiler should have gone for the 1st down, as momentum was swinging WW's way. We were disappointed with the punt. More disappointing was the second half collapse. Coach Dettwiler feels that the talent on the Eagle squad is equivalent to the top schools in the league, but I don't see it - at least not at the top of the depth chart. He feels that the recruiting has been good and I hope we see the results of this soon. It should be noted that injuries have taken a toll on this team, and that the early schedule has been brutal. I had hoped for 4 conference wins this year, but have my doubts that we'll get them at this rate. Other WIAC teams appear to be improving and should be formidable opponents in the season's second half. We need the 4 wins to match last year's total. I hope the team holds up under the pressure and turns in a strong second half of the season.   

Recruiting for UWL has been confusing.  They seem to bring in many talented kids, but many of them haven't showed a thing on the field yet.  I remember a number of transfers coming in from articles in the spring (d1/d2 and NAIA schools), but really none have made any impact.  One of the things that top D3 programs (particularly UWW) seem to do is turn some of those upper division transfers into cornerstone players of their program, something UWL hasn't done.

The most glaring thing to me is the size of UWL's defensive players.  Going off the depth chart, the starting dlinemen average 228 pounds and the linebackers average is 203.  Many high school teams have more size than this, and in the games I've seen it has been very apparent that they are physically overmatched.  I seem to remember Coach Dettwiler quoted as saying something about basing his defense on speed and recruiting fast players, but 230 pound defensive tackles have no chance against the linemen in the WIAC regardless of how quick they are.  NCC is good, but giving up 675+ in total yardage is pathetic and putting up 175 TOTAL on offense against Whitewater is as well.

It will be interesting to see how the rest of the season plays out.  I've been pretty quiet on this board because there hasn't been much to say regarding UWL and I don't know much about the other conference teams.  I'm hoping to see some life from the Eagles in the coming weeks and I'd love to be on here with something to talk about.  There are some winnable games coming up, hopefully we can take advantage.

[oshfb]

Quick question for those who follow UW-O. What's up with Myhra?  I would have expected more than a 3.7 ypc out of him. banged up? OL issues? It was a bit eye opening that UW-O averaged only 2.9 ypc against Stout when North Central gained 5.1 per carry against them and Dakota Wesleyan averaged 6.1 ypc against them.  Something going on up there?

Teams forcing Olla to beat them (which he is) by stacking the line for Myhra? Myhra had 32 carries Saturday, so I don't think he's banged up.

Good question Bleed...I haven't been able to watch a game so am stuck listening to live streaming audio. I'd venture a guess similar to 02 Warhawk.

[WarhawkDad]

UWL played WW even for a quarter yesterday, but was unable to stay with the talented Warhawks beyond that. WW took a 17-3 lead late in the 2nd Q, and La Crosse faced a 4th and 2 from the WW 41. My comrades and I felt that Coach Dettwiler should have gone for the 1st down, as momentum was swinging WW's way. We were disappointed with the punt. More disappointing was the second half collapse. Coach Dettwiler feels that the talent on the Eagle squad is equivalent to the top schools in the league, but I don't see it - at least not at the top of the depth chart. He feels that the recruiting has been good and I hope we see the results of this soon. It should be noted that injuries have taken a toll on this team, and that the early schedule has been brutal. I had hoped for 4 conference wins this year, but have my doubts that we'll get them at this rate. Other WIAC teams appear to be improving and should be formidable opponents in the season's second half. We need the 4 wins to match last year's total. I hope the team holds up under the pressure and turns in a strong second half of the season.   

Recruiting for UWL has been confusing.  They seem to bring in many talented kids, but many of them haven't showed a thing on the field yet.  I remember a number of transfers coming in from articles in the spring (d1/d2 and NAIA schools), but really none have made any impact.  One of the things that top D3 programs (particularly UWW) seem to do is turn some of those upper division transfers into cornerstone players of their program, something UWL hasn't done.
The most glaring thing to me is the size of UWL's defensive players.  Going off the depth chart, the starting dlinemen average 228 pounds and the linebackers average is 203.  Many high school teams have more size than this, and in the games I've seen it has been very apparent that they are physically overmatched.  I seem to remember Coach Dettwiler quoted as saying something about basing his defense on speed and recruiting fast players, but 230 pound defensive tackles have no chance against the linemen in the WIAC regardless of how quick they are.  NCC is good, but giving up 675+ in total yardage is pathetic and putting up 175 TOTAL on offense against Whitewater is as well.

It will be interesting to see how the rest of the season plays out.  I've been pretty quiet on this board because there hasn't been much to say regarding UWL and I don't know much about the other conference teams.  I'm hoping to see some life from the Eagles in the coming weeks and I'd love to be on here with something to talk about.  There are some winnable games coming up, hopefully we can take advantage.

Screaming Eagles

For the number of other level players that drop into UWW, at least during the 5 years I have been observing maybe 20% actually pan out.  We have had numerous think that because they "are dropping down" that things will be easier for them.   Many don't survive the summer training camp leading into the season.    Frankly it is somewhat shocking and yet validating that this occurs.  My opinion, and it is only mine is that those who are willing to work, regardless of level, typically have some level of success.  Those who think it should be handed to them and don't work out on their own, and don't study.....don't succeed.

WHD

[bleedpurple]

Quick question for those who follow UW-O. What's up with Myhra?  I would have expected more than a 3.7 ypc out of him. banged up? OL issues? It was a bit eye opening that UW-O averaged only 2.9 ypc against Stout when North Central gained 5.1 per carry against them and Dakota Wesleyan averaged 6.1 ypc against them.  Something going on up there?

Teams forcing Olla to beat them (which he is) by stacking the line for Myhra? Myhra had 32 carries Saturday, so I don't think he's banged up.

Good question Bleed...I haven't been able to watch a game so am stuck listening to live streaming audio. I'd venture a guess similar to 02 Warhawk.

Well, the good news for the Titans is that if that's what teams are doing, forcing Olla to beat them...he's doing it because they are undefeated!